Waves - is a Scam and fraud?

[odubo]

Waves platform announced  :

We’re planning to start the BCH airdrop next Thursday, on February 22, 2018. Here’s how you take part:

1. You need to generate a waves wallet with letters “B”, “C” and “H” in it, not necessarily in consecutive order;
2. After that, you transfer your WCT there;
3. Distribution is sent out to these new addresses proportionally to their WCT holdings;
4. If the address contains the “B”, “C” and “H” letters in the consecutive order the address receives a double payout;

Stay tuned and follow our official channels for more details!

http://wavescommunity.com/bchairdrop/

I installed the lite wallet, until I bought at 1 BCH-BTC 0.13964936. On BTC-waves, and then waves-WCT happened -517.85 WCT,  

and I received after 22 February BCH – 0.0252928!!! thus the conclusion only from 1 BCH?!

proportionally to their WCT holdings

is it proportional to what?!

and BCH these penny can not convert or withdraw! minimum withdraw 1 BCH!!!

brought to the stock exchange back 517 WTC. the rate fell, if now I transfer my WTC to BTC, I get 0.11141987, and for the purchase I spent 0.13964936, at the current rate of BTC I lost$285.  
Simply magnificent! I got the BCH – 0.0252928 that$ 30, but I can't do anything with them! nor to exchange nor to withdraw!)
well, plus I got 2 shitcoin:
Liquid – 5.1785 is about 21 cents,
ARKER – 0.51785, which is nowhere, and they are worth nothing.

I wrote in wavescommunity com
while the comments on moderation 17 hours, but I think rubs!

I think all who have suffered from these scams need to write about it in the official channels and forums so that other people don't suffered from their actions.

[kz103]

Just because you lost money doesn't mean it was a scam or fraud

[odubo]

Just because you lost money doesn't mean it was a scam or fraud

if you think so, look above, it says that BCH will charge proportionally to the WCT. Can you tell me what proportion you think it was?
517.85 WCT
BCH – 0.0252928

maybe I'm having trouble with the calculator.!

in proportion to the quantity or value divided by ...
however the platform is not written, what's the ratio

If they reported such a small charge, and they wrote about the proportional accrual, no one climbed into airdrop. And so, helped their investors to become profitable and, accordingly, lowered their reputation.
P.S. And they say that the Waves better ETH coin and the coin's value does not correspond to its possibilities.
P.P.S. and those who lost money on this airdrop, not the first caught with their project. Hence the attitude towards this project in the community.

[odubo]

I just want to talk about their speculation and warn the others!

[kz103]

Honestly your explanation is a little confusing as I understand it you bought 517 wct to get the free bch air drop and received roughly .025 bch is that correct?  

When they say porportionally that means however many total bch they are distributing ( I don't know what that number was) is evenenly distributed based on how many WCT you hold. For example someone holding 1000WCT should receive twice as much as someone holding 500WCT. Were you expecting to receive a 1:1 ratio or something?

You are not able to convert it back to you original bitcoin amount because WCT has dropped more than BTC while you held not because you were scammed.

[odubo]

I agree, Waves are not to blame for the depreciation of the WCT,
I just wrote that the calculated amounts of BCH unclear if the creators wrote bought 1 BCH and share it to all who will participate in proportion to their WCT, then Yes, it would have been fair! but they didn't write about that there is a limit to the BCH for this promotion.

and the amount that I lost, I wrote in order to further, people understand what can be with such great promotions of this platform and how much they will receive coins!

[kz103]

Why do you keep saying they only distributed 1BCH? Did they ever say how many they'd be distributing. I hold wavesand think it's a good coin but I don't really follow the air drops.

So I'm sorry you lost money and didn't receive as much bch as you were expecting but I don't see anything that shows you were scammed in anyway so you're spreading misinformation about a good project.

[odubo]

I'm not saying that they are only 1BCH handed out, I wrote that I had 1BCH, which I changed to buy BTC then I shifted to another market where I bought the WCT.
and in the last post there is 1BCH as a invented amount, I said that the organizers did not announce the amount of BCH for this action, and suggested that if the organizers of the action called it immediately for example 1BCH(or 10BCH) , then few would decide to take part in it.
but if the organizers did not specify just how they will distribute BCH and wrote commensurate with the WCT, so you should or equal to the number(this is of course impossible) and an equal amount of BCH were giving away, but they didn't, and was introduced initially, all the confusion, to sell the WCT!!!!! that's what fraud is! deception in the holding of this event!!!

if the organizers later I'll do other promotions, then there might be the same, not all the information! and other people can get hurt at the hands of these scammers!

[kz103]

Youre being ridiculous to call it a scam. They air dropped you BCH just like they said they would you weren't scammed sorry you though you'd get more. But it sounds like you got 2-3% of your holding air dropped for free I'm not sure what you expected but just because you expected more doesn't mean they scammed you

[mummybtc]

I think you should look into the mirror and point fingers at the person in the mirror, I have warned people several time about some of these airdrop invent, you should have asked the question does it really worth it before investing in the token, because at the end of the day the sum of what you are given is most of the time less than your actual investment in the token

[Endikadija]

Why do you keep saying they only distributed 1BCH? Did they ever say how many they'd be distributing. I hold wavesand think it's a good coin but I don't really follow the air drops.

So I'm sorry you lost money and didn't receive as much bch as you were expecting but I don't see anything that shows you were scammed in anyway so you're spreading misinformation about a good project.

The only solution for OP never to try to keep all of his amounts in the waves platform to receive any airdrop, but as you can see the only thing that you can do just like to get the more explanation regarding what already happened with it.
But this will help you a lot for that https://support.wavesplatform.com/en/knowledge-bases/2/articles/9821-bch-airdrop-faq-9-nov-2017
There was only 100 BCH to be airdropped for all of WCT holders. That's why you are only getting a small amount of BCH.

[tdeannova]

Take it easy, it's just your misconception about the airdrop regulation itself. Only you who say the waves are a scam and your reason is so unreasonable to blame the waves.

Better understand well, if necessary do a discussion before you follow something.

[johncro_]

man you created account to call waves a scam project, based on your lack of knowledge and research...whats so hard to understand...first of all airdrops were meant for long time wct holders who held tokens for a long time and thats bassically free money...but then again some idiots(you) think they can be smart and buy some wct and get free money...then price of wct goes up cause of high demand and stupid people buy them thinking they got jackpot but instead after you get some money(airdrop) you should realize by the time you get airdrop, price of wct tokens drop like it's supposted to happen.so after you realize you lost money on gambling you come here spread shitty fud and expect do get your money back blaming waves for your mistakes...

[carlisle1]

I think you should look into the mirror and point fingers at the person in the mirror, I have warned people several time about some of these airdrop invent, you should have asked the question does it really worth it before investing in the token, because at the end of the day the sum of what you are given is most of the time less than your actual investment in the token

right because OP is being greedy that he doesnt clarify of read carefully whats the DEV says,because he was being blind by the amount promised in airdrop.there nothing to blame here but OP itself.if he just cleared every details specified on the platform he will not crying being a victim of he says scam

[Manc89]

I think you should look into the mirror and point fingers at the person in the mirror, I have warned people several time about some of these airdrop invent, you should have asked the question does it really worth it before investing in the token, because at the end of the day the sum of what you are given is most of the time less than your actual investment in the token

Now airdrop just make us lose. I know we got the free token but we dont realize that the token will bring us big lose.
Thats what happen with nxt and ignis. People buy nxt because they want to get ignis, they get ignis but the other side nxt dump very bad. So they lose.

[Trofo]

I agree, Waves are not to blame for the depreciation of the WCT,
I just wrote that the calculated amounts of BCH unclear if the creators wrote bought 1 BCH and share it to all who will participate in proportion to their WCT, then Yes, it would have been fair! but they didn't write about that there is a limit to the BCH for this promotion.

and the amount that I lost, I wrote in order to further, people understand what can be with such great promotions of this platform and how much they will receive coins!

I had a problem with the title of your topic even before reading the post but decided to give it a try anyway. Waves is a platform which is used by many tokens and you can't blame them if you have an issue with one of those tokens. If that was the case everybody could blame ETH for being scam & fraud because so many shit token airdrops on that platform turned out to be scams.

From the bold part of your reply above it seems that you have concluded this as well. Therefore, I am kindly asking you to change the title of your topic to something more appropriate to avoid unnecessary FUD. Just to make clear I don't know anything about BCH and from what I managed to get from this thread they did nothing wrong except maybe not making the rules clear enough. But for sure, your issue is with BCH and not Waves platform. At least swap Waves with BCH in the title.

[hase0278]

I'm not saying that they are only 1BCH handed out, I wrote that I had 1BCH, which I changed to buy BTC then I shifted to another market where I bought the WCT.
and in the last post there is 1BCH as a invented amount, I said that the organizers did not announce the amount of BCH for this action, and suggested that if the organizers of the action called it immediately for example 1BCH(or 10BCH) , then few would decide to take part in it.
but if the organizers did not specify just how they will distribute BCH and wrote commensurate with the WCT, so you should or equal to the number(this is of course impossible) and an equal amount of BCH were giving away, but they didn't, and was introduced initially, all the confusion, to sell the WCT!!!!! that's what fraud is! deception in the holding of this event!!!

if the organizers later I'll do other promotions, then there might be the same, not all the information! and other people can get hurt at the hands of these scammers!

In the end it is clear that waves havw not scammed you at all. Always rember that airdrops.doesnt bring much of a fortune and the waves airdrop IMO is normal. You just misunderstood the rules of the airdrop in the first place. I concluded it this way because of the post above with a link to waves support explaining about the bch airdrop. The loss on wct part on the other hand is only caused by it's loss of value.

[Fedrey]

I think you should look into the mirror and point fingers at the person in the mirror, I have warned people several time about some of these airdrop invent, you should have asked the question does it really worth it before investing in the token, because at the end of the day the sum of what you are given is most of the time less than your actual investment in the token

Now airdrop just make us lose. I know we got the free token but we dont realize that the token will bring us big lose.
Thats what happen with nxt and ignis. People buy nxt because they want to get ignis, they get ignis but the other side nxt dump very bad. So they lose.

I understand that this is a mousetrap for those who want to make money on a cheap air project. I would advise to avoid this by the other side and not to fall for tricks.

[styca]

Waves is definitely not a scam. I don't know the particular terms of this airdrop, but airdrops in general are a small amount. If the drop is proportional to the amount of WCT you hold, and you only have a small amount of WCT, then you will only get a small amount in the airdrop. It's not like a fork to create a new coin, where you get 1:1 new coin to old coin.

[muvie]

Just because you lost money doesn't mean it was a scam or fraud

Yes, this is exactly what I thought. No need to cry "scam" just because you have not understand the latest BCH reward for Waves Community Token holders.