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September 24, 2013, 05:35:00 AM
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Delivery date: End of September (within this week)

I'm taking offers for my Jupiter with 6 months paid hosting.  I will simply hand over my account details for you to define your payout address and / or pool information.  I paid for my Jupiter within the first hours of the store being open (should be one of the first few if not the first to roll off the production line).  Once the 6 months of paid hosting are up, they will simply ship the miner to your address (configurable within the account).

This is a minimum 400Gh/s device rumored to be 500Gh/s+.

I will accept escrow for delivery of account details.  This auction is a great way for you to get a day one Jupiter without paying for VAT or waiting on shipping.  According to KNC this unit should be up and hashing within hours of production.

I have $9,195 invested ($6,995 for the miner $2,200 for hosting), minimum bid 90BTC with a 'buy it now' of 125BTC.  Please bid in minimum increments of 1 bitcoin.

The number to check delivery status is: 143-N3S2-000189



I reserve the right to cancel the auction. The auction is over when the timer lapses and a bid has not been received for at least 5 minutes.

I'm only interested in bids, please keep this thread clear of back of the envelope math, network estimates or your general opinions.  If unsuccessful, I'm perfectly happy to take receipt and mine with this unit.
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September 24, 2013, 07:01:21 AM
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wow, i would be very happy to sell my jupiters for those prices. Smiley
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September 24, 2013, 07:13:56 AM
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i apologize, my post was stupid: (cannot edit, nor delete)

1) i didn´t realize that hosting for 6 months is included

2) i overlooked that the op wanted no such comments, but bids only
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September 24, 2013, 11:33:02 AM
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Block erupters Nd blades are cheaper lol.
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September 24, 2013, 03:51:59 PM
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Block erupters Nd blades are cheaper lol.

Thank you for ignoring my request and posting your opinion.  This has given me an opportunity to show the value of this auction.  As you can see, even at my highest buyout price, my auction is significantly cheaper than the alternatives you suggested.

If we assume the miner will only be 400GH/s:

usb miner via http://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=store
.17ea @ 330mh/s
1212.12 x .17 = 206.06 btc

blade via http://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=store
4.2ea @ 11gh/s
36.3636 x 4.2 = 152.72 btc


If we assume (most likely more accurately) that the Jupiter will be 500Gh/s:

usb miner via http://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=store
.17ea @ 330mh/s
1515.15 x .17 = 257.57 btc

blade via http://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=store
4.2ea @ 11gh/s
45.45 x 4.2 = 190.90 btc
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September 24, 2013, 04:10:36 PM
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yeah, you have asked 125 Bitcoins.

Order some blades from SSboom

3.3 or less, pm him a quote

you will get 3.1x37.5=115 Bitcoins for 400GH, overnight delivery.

you can also find erupters bulk below 0.1 BTC so 1994 erupters for ~ 110 Bitcoins Smiley

and you will be hashing tommorow, not in next 2 weeks... or more.
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September 24, 2013, 04:16:34 PM
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yeah, you have asked 125 Bitcoins.

Order some blades from SSboom

3.3 or less, pm him a quote

you will get 3.1x37.5=115 Bitcoins for 400GH, overnight delivery.

you can also find erupters bulk below 0.1 BTC so 1994 erupters for ~ 110 Bitcoins Smiley

and you will be hashing tommorow, not in next 2 weeks... or more.

My minimum bid is 90BTC, well below your stated alternatives.  Now please, go shit on someone else's lawn.
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September 24, 2013, 04:23:50 PM
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yeah, you have asked 125 Bitcoins.

Order some blades from SSboom

3.3 or less, pm him a quote

you will get 3.1x37.5=115 Bitcoins for 400GH, overnight delivery.

you can also find erupters bulk below 0.1 BTC so 1994 erupters for ~ 110 Bitcoins Smiley

and you will be hashing tommorow, not in next 2 weeks... or more.

My minimum bid is 90BTC, well below your stated alternatives.  Now please, go shit on someone else's lawn.

Lol. Your price to buy it now is 125 BTC. You can buy now also AM hardware. What is your point, man ? I very like your posting history, i used to read them from time to time on this forum, but this time it is bad to see such crap.
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September 24, 2013, 04:45:17 PM
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Lol. Your price to buy it now is 125 BTC. You can buy now also AM hardware. What is your point, man ? I very like your posting history, i used to read them from time to time on this forum, but this time it is bad to see such crap.

I'm sorry that you don't see the value in my auction.  We have a difference of opinion, and as stated in my original post, I would appreciate it if you would refrain from posting in this thread unless to bid.

I have shown actual math from published sources that prove that my auction is a good deal.  You may not realize this, but some people don't want the hassle of plugging in 1000+ usb miners with usb hubs and fans etc. to achieve the same hash rate.

To win my auction, at this point you only need to bid 90BTC. This is far cheaper than anything you have posted (even if what you have posted is legitimate).

There is no setup, no shipping, no electricity or hosting costs, no troubleshooting, no other parts to buy etc.

I'm sorry that you don't recognize the value of my auction, and at this point you have convinced me that no amount of back and forth will convince you otherwise.
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September 24, 2013, 05:04:52 PM
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Not quite right. There are USB erupters going for 0.12 each.

Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=298435.0 (0.125)
             https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=294977.0 (0.12)
Asic: 10.752GHash/s blade 3.5 BTC: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=294978.0

My Math puts it at:

3.5ea@10.752 GH.

400/10.752=37.20*3.5= 130 BTC.
400/0.330=1212.1212*0.12=145.45 BTC

So yes your unit is 90 BTC < 130 BTC.
But not much more then 90, as difficulty increases 20-30% weekly.
By the time this unit is hashing difficulty will already have increase probably about 50% or so.
Take that into account and that 130 BTC is like 65 BTC.

If the person had this unit TODAY, or within a few days. Then I see a value of 90-110 BTC or so.

You can get these asic blades and asic erupters like in a few days, VS a few weeks.
And time is of essence atm.

Also forgetting 400 GH of asic blade costing 130 BTC would generate a few BTC within 2-3 weeks
before a user got this 400 GH unit from your auction.

About ฿1.79 Atm Daily now. So that would generate about 1.79*21=37.59 BTC
Now accounting for difficulty probably closer to 25 BTC.

130-25 BTC = 105 BTC. So its par with this auction, only if KNCminer ships within 21 days. If they
ship a month late, well bad luck to the buyer. Basically one option risky, one safer.


Block erupters Nd blades are cheaper lol.

Thank you for ignoring my request and posting your opinion.  This has given me an opportunity to show the value of this auction.  As you can see, even at my highest buyout price, my auction is significantly cheaper than the alternatives you suggested.

If we assume the miner will only be 400GH/s:

usb miner via http://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=store
.17ea @ 330mh/s
1212.12 x .17 = 206.06 btc

blade via http://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=store
4.2ea @ 11gh/s
36.3636 x 4.2 = 152.72 btc


If we assume (most likely more accurately) that the Jupiter will be 500Gh/s:

usb miner via http://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=store
.17ea @ 330mh/s
1515.15 x .17 = 257.57 btc

blade via http://www.btcguild.com/index.php?page=store
4.2ea @ 11gh/s
45.45 x 4.2 = 190.90 btc



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September 26, 2013, 03:12:25 AM
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Auction is closed. No bids, no Winners.
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September 26, 2013, 05:59:53 AM
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I was tempted to bid, but with the crazy hike in difficulty I'd be lucky to break even. I have a day 1 pre-order just like you with hosting and I think it was a bad deal. If KNC miss their promised delivery date we're all pretty much screwed. So if you can get a refund do it now. Nobody is going to give you 125 btc for this.

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September 26, 2013, 05:30:05 PM
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According to my calcs this unit should make around 45btc in its lifetime.  Given the high risk of KNC not delivering, I'll be willing to make an offer of 40BTC on the item, including the 6 months hosting.

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September 26, 2013, 05:33:40 PM
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I was tempted to bid, but with the crazy hike in difficulty I'd be lucky to break even. I have a day 1 pre-order just like you with hosting and I think it was a bad deal. If KNC miss their promised delivery date we're all pretty much screwed. So if you can get a refund do it now. Nobody is going to give you 125 btc for this.

There are no refunds.
From today.

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I was tempted to bid, but with the crazy hike in difficulty I'd be lucky to break even. I have a day 1 pre-order just like you with hosting and I think it was a bad deal. If KNC miss their promised delivery date we're all pretty much screwed. So if you can get a refund do it now. Nobody is going to give you 125 btc for this.

There are no refunds.
From today.


#1) Where did you get this information? Link please, or go back on my ignore list.
#2) Refunds depend upon the seller policy and the mechanism for payment. Those with credit cards have recourse until KNC has shipping units.

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September 27, 2013, 06:18:38 PM
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I was tempted to bid, but with the crazy hike in difficulty I'd be lucky to break even. I have a day 1 pre-order just like you with hosting and I think it was a bad deal. If KNC miss their promised delivery date we're all pretty much screwed. So if you can get a refund do it now. Nobody is going to give you 125 btc for this.

There are no refunds.
From today.


#1) Where did you get this information? Link please, or go back on my ignore list.
#2) Refunds depend upon the seller policy and the mechanism for payment. Those with credit cards have recourse until KNC has shipping units.

go to custom hardware forum
there is a topic

KNC stopped refuns

soon will be topic

KNC fuck us all over again...
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September 27, 2013, 06:23:52 PM
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I was tempted to bid, but with the crazy hike in difficulty I'd be lucky to break even. I have a day 1 pre-order just like you with hosting and I think it was a bad deal. If KNC miss their promised delivery date we're all pretty much screwed. So if you can get a refund do it now. Nobody is going to give you 125 btc for this.

There are no refunds.
From today.


#1) Where did you get this information? Link please, or go back on my ignore list.
#2) Refunds depend upon the seller policy and the mechanism for payment. Those with credit cards have recourse until KNC has shipping units.

go to custom hardware forum
there is a topic

KNC stopped refuns

soon will be topic

KNC fuck us all over again...

I'm well aware of the 650 page thread you're referring to and I have not seen any posts about KNC denying any refunds. Again, please provide a link to the specific information you purport to have.

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September 27, 2013, 07:08:59 PM
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Topic: KNCMiner REfusing refunds  (Read 3231 times)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=302032.0

check this out Smiley
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Interesting. Well, I'm hoping that they ship equipment within the next few days and if they don't, that's where the credit card comes into play.

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