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July 19, 2011, 11:08:10 AM
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The Bitcoin World Conference was fantastic. Full of energy and ideas expressed at bitcoin speed.
As the sole founder and owner of Bitcoin ATM Inc (a California registered corporation) I felt fortunate to have been able to get a table to display my company where many persons expressed their support for the need for this product. There was no shortage of persons asking to be beta testers of the first 10 machines in their city or to join the bitcoin investment pool from which this company is funded. Thank you Bruce Wagner for putting on this show and your example of how business and relationships in the new bitcoin economy should be done. I accept the challenge of matching your pace and will attend all the upcoming shows you have scheduled around the world.

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July 19, 2011, 11:18:49 AM
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I agree with the sentiment of the parent post.

(My plans have been to go to the conference, but I'm currently worried about the lack of updates/info. It would be a transatlantic business trip and for that I need to be able to motivate its validity)
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July 19, 2011, 11:56:32 AM
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July 19, 2011, 12:03:20 PM
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Might be a good idea to try to email Bruce first before trying to defame him in public. From what I've seen he isn't a bad person and is genuinely working on things. It's not nice to make personal attacks on people without first trying to see what's up.

I could understand if he made a bad reply or something but cmon Cheesy
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July 19, 2011, 12:20:40 PM
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Might be a good idea to try to email Bruce first before trying to defame him in public. From what I've seen he isn't a bad person and is genuinely working on things. It's not nice to make personal attacks on people without first trying to see what's up.

I could understand if he made a bad reply or something but cmon Cheesy

It's my understanding that the parent post had both been emailed and that it in no way is defamatory. On the contrary, I fully agree that Bruce is doing a great job evangelizing.

What I support are the comments on the conference and the communication around it.

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July 19, 2011, 12:58:10 PM
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Genjix, thanks for your feedback.

This is hardly defamation.
Bruce was emailed twice. The dates are in the above letter “Emailed 6-29 and again on 7-22”. I Even tried to get his attention in during one of his Bitcoin Show chats.
My business partner and I were excited to go at first and we told Bruce so. We were going to get one of those booths, roll out our new products, sponsorships, all the usual trade show trappings… Well you tell me if anything resembling the claims at http://bitcoinconference.com
is actually going to happen? If nothing else then I am simply asking Bruce to take down the above links and threads, then remove this thread while they are at it. But go ahead and have the global bitcoin Meetup / hack-a-thon, hell ya I will come to that.
Bruce is a big boy. He was the first member of my San Diego / Orange County Bitcoin Meetup.
With bitcoin being the rocket sled that it is we’re all very busy. So I’m encouraging Bruce to ‘crowdsource’ just one of his great ideas.
Trust me, before I clicked on that post button I thought about what the community might do to my modest reputation and it was not a pleasant thought.

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July 19, 2011, 01:06:26 PM
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What is this Open Letter meant to accomplish? If these are merely "suggestions" and Bruce hasn't replied, why the need to go public?

It seems to me that the effort expended in creating this thread might have been better spent trying to turn around the threads that are allegedly "doing more harm than good."

I have quite a bit of experience organizing events of this nature as well and agree that it seems a little amateurish but I like the fact that Bitcoiners tackle these kind of things from a grass roots level.

Still around.
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July 19, 2011, 01:06:53 PM
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one more suggestion....

hire toddbethell as your advisor on this matter.

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July 19, 2011, 01:11:10 PM
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How about we take one step at a time? I'm very excited by the fact that there even IS a bitcon conference! I will be there, and a whole bunch of other bitcoin fanatics will be there as well. After the event actually happens, THEN we will worry about how to improve it.

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July 19, 2011, 01:28:08 PM
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Vladimir
Thanks for the vote, but I am not for hire. Read the letter carefully and you will see what is taking all my time right now.
Bruce planted a seed, I am watering it.
I go to (and have to write the check for) a fair number of trade shows. So as a vendor and attendee I know what I like. 
I volunteer to be on a planning committee or a door keeper, whatever moves my mission forward more.
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July 19, 2011, 09:31:54 PM
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I can't say I'm a fan of $1200 admission fees.

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July 31, 2011, 04:44:11 PM
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toddbethell, until I see your name attached to anything of relevance to the community (more than an idea here and there), you have to be one of the biggest, and best, trolls on the forums.

I believe you are real person with real agendas, unfortunately most of those agendas seem to deal with whining and unrealistic solutions to problems you are creating yourself.   

I also look forward to seeing if you are tied to the current MyBitcoin soap opera in any way Smiley

So many great threads to read through when you stop checking the forums daily.

btw todd, my post is semi-fucking with you.  That Bitcoin Conference is definitely starting to sound like OnlyOneTV conference (I know not your words), however trying to change the conference with this post in a public area, makes no logical sense.

Also,  http://fastscanning.com/ has one catchy logo. 

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July 31, 2011, 04:53:29 PM
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I can't say I'm a fan of $1200 admission fees.

Yes tony robbins better be there to motivate me for that price.
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July 31, 2011, 05:13:09 PM
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A reluctant open letter to Bruce Wagner, OnlyOneTV.


Todd,

You have to keep in mind the size and scope of bitcoin.  It is not anywhere close to a CES or large show.  If the target group size is 50 people, the size/venue/pricing needs to be appropriate for that.

1 or 2 bitcoins to attend should be affordable to anyone that is interested in attending and learning about bitcoins.

10 bitcoins for a business to be able to show off and sell their services is reasonable as well. 

Traveling to NYC is the biggest expense for most people.  There's no need to charge alot of money ontop of that.

If you look at the agenda you will see a large block of time for people to breakout into smaller groups to discuss their specific bitcoin interests:

- Wallet Client Development
- Mining Hardware / Software
- Trading and Exchange
- Merchant Tools

bitcoin is the single biggest opportunity for entrepreneurs and startups since the .com era.  If the conference can provide an opportunity for great minds to collaborate, for a reasonable price, that's all that's needed right now.  Maybe in a few years we can sell out the Vegas Convention Center.  But not now.

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