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February 25, 2018, 11:14:50 PM
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I've been in cryptocurrency trading for a while, and one of my pet peeves is hearing the same regurgitated advice.  The two most frequent are "Buy low and sell high" and "Buy the dips".  When the market corrects, "You should have taken profits."  When it recovers, "You should have hodled."  It gets old.  What do you think?
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February 25, 2018, 11:47:20 PM
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Old tricks actually work. The other question is - you try to follow all of that. I believe, if you are half successful in making these things happen, you'll do good.  Smiley

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February 25, 2018, 11:50:31 PM
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I've been in cryptocurrency trading for a while, and one of my pet peeves is hearing the same regurgitated advice.  The two most frequent are "Buy low and sell high" and "Buy the dips".  When the market corrects, "You should have taken profits."  When it recovers, "You should have hodled."  It gets old.  What do you think?

I think that was the only point for trading right now. When we go into trading theres only those two option. Sell or HODL right ?
The only point is to make profit and not just waste time or money.
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February 26, 2018, 12:55:08 AM
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Trying to time the market and predict the highs and bottoms isn't really the ideal strategy; that's why a good number of people only buy the dips and just straight out hold the coins, taking selling out of the equation. Day trading and timing the market is really just very stressful in my opinion.


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February 26, 2018, 12:56:56 AM
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You forgot the two most imfamous cliche trading tips of all time and those are

-DYOR (do your own research for those who don't know Wink)
-Invest what you can afford to lose

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February 26, 2018, 02:14:18 AM
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Without a doubt tired of it, but I do know that it won't be going away at any point. Once HODLing makes someone losses mass amounts of money (or a good amount of people lose out due to it) that's when the cliche of HODLing will die, but at the moment it really is the only way to win against a market which is insanely volatile.

I hate hearing it, but that's the kinda thing you get when you're involved in trading so you gotta get used to it. Do remember that hindsight is ALWAYS 20/20




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February 26, 2018, 02:40:03 AM
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I've been in cryptocurrency trading for a while, and one of my pet peeves is hearing the same regurgitated advice.  The two most frequent are "Buy low and sell high" and "Buy the dips".  When the market corrects, "You should have taken profits."  When it recovers, "You should have hodled."  It gets old.  What do you think?


Actually you have a point, sometimes it is really annoying to read same topic over and over again. I don’t know if I’m guilty with this cliché most especially my last post I made here. But in fairness with my last post, all I really want is to share my recent experience which I think will help the trader and also the long term investors of crypto.

Well, we are in the trading discussion section maybe all we can do is just get use with it. Whether we like it or not this will be the common denominator topic we can read here.

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February 26, 2018, 02:43:32 AM
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that is because it is cliche advice to you , but not to new people here. it is important to keep telling people these things because they keep making the same mistakes. and to be honest most of it is good advice but i understand where you are coming from. but just ignore it and think that it helps new people .
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February 26, 2018, 02:54:09 AM
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OP, if you're new to bitcointalk you might not be aware that there are these things called signature campaigns, where businesses rent out members' signature and/or avatar spaces, and some of the campaigns pay enough to finance a pimp lifestyle for those who live in 3rd world countries.  It's astounding.

My point is that a LOT of people here are only posting because they get paid to do it, and a lot of them are uneducated knuckleheads who have great difficulty stringing words together so that they form coherent sentences.  The end result is that they learn how to write a small number of thoughts, and a lot of them are ideas they've copied from places, and none of it is original or interesting.  That's the main reason you keep reading the same shit over and over.  I think of this forum as a bullshit words reconstitution factory, because that's what they all do.  One of the cliches I see very often is "Never gamble [or invest] more than you're prepared to lose", which should be obvious to any rational person, but these shitposters find it necessary to write this in thread after thread.

So that's the main reason why, OP.  Others might disagree with me, but this is the truth as I see it.

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February 26, 2018, 02:59:01 AM
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You forgot the two most imfamous cliche trading tips of all time and those are

-DYOR (do your own research for those who don't know Wink)
-Invest what you can afford to lose


Can't believe that I forgot those.  DYOR is the most annoying one, since most people have no clue about Blockchain.  The other day, I watched a video from a project that plans to build the first blockchain operating system.  For anyone who understands that blockchain is basically a secure decentralized ledger, the concept of using it to build an operating system is absurd.  I'll bet that a lot of people did their own research, read the whitepaper, and still had no clue that the project was unrealistic.  People who are new and don't understand the technology look for guidance from more experienced investors.  Then we tell them DYOR.
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February 26, 2018, 03:06:58 AM
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I've been in cryptocurrency trading for a while, and one of my pet peeves is hearing the same regurgitated advice.  The two most frequent are "Buy low and sell high" and "Buy the dips".  When the market corrects, "You should have taken profits."  When it recovers, "You should have hodled."  It gets old.  What do you think?

It maybe cliche but if followed properly you can be profitable. With "buy low and sell high", did you really follow this advice or do the opposite? When you are a newbie in trading, you ask advice and then others would tell you this advice but when you are looking at a coin getting hype, you decide to join the ride only to see later on the price went down below your buy price and you are confuse whether to sell it or later and when it continue going down you decide to just sell it so you didn't really follow the advice. These advices are there because they are effective and you will keep hearing/reading it until such time you advice it to others too.

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OP, if you're new to bitcointalk you might not be aware that there are these things called signature campaigns, where businesses rent out members' signature and/or avatar spaces, and some of the campaigns pay enough to finance a pimp lifestyle for those who live in 3rd world countries.  It's astounding.

My point is that a LOT of people here are only posting because they get paid to do it, and a lot of them are uneducated knuckleheads who have great difficulty stringing words together so that they form coherent sentences.  The end result is that they learn how to write a small number of thoughts, and a lot of them are ideas they've copied from places, and none of it is original or interesting.  That's the main reason you keep reading the same shit over and over.  I think of this forum as a bullshit words reconstitution factory, because that's what they all do.  One of the cliches I see very often is "Never gamble [or invest] more than you're prepared to lose", which should be obvious to any rational person, but these shitposters find it necessary to write this in thread after thread.

So that's the main reason why, OP.  Others might disagree with me, but this is the truth as I see it.


I agree that there are few original thoughts posted anywhere.  I will say that Bitcointalk is still far better than Twitter.  In addition to posting the same cliché advice, the "experts" on Twitter post endless calls, then brag about the few that "moon".  That said, there are some people in the crypto space who are genuinely helpful and offer thoughtful advice and support.  They have my respect.  
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February 26, 2018, 03:31:40 AM
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Well that is the basic of trading, no matter how cliche it is, it got a very strong influence in your trading strategy, when the traders advice to hold, it is to prevent the panic sell and we know that panic sell could make the situation become worse, buy low and sell high is the basic of trading but how to determine high and low price and how long you should hold before sell, that is the part where you need to learn
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I've been in cryptocurrency trading for a while, and one of my pet peeves is hearing the same regurgitated advice.  The two most frequent are "Buy low and sell high" and "Buy the dips".  When the market corrects, "You should have taken profits."  When it recovers, "You should have hodled."  It gets old.  What do you think?
If you keep trading you might have some strategy that requires or can be obtained through experience. It never gets old if you passionately love your money and seriously speculate it thorough. I can't blame you though not everyone have the luck and same mind to go through this.
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Oh, yes, these are generally accepted rules since the time of the appearance of shares!  Grin
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OP, if you're new to bitcointalk you might not be aware that there are these things called signature campaigns, where businesses rent out members' signature and/or avatar spaces, and some of the campaigns pay enough to finance a pimp lifestyle for those who live in 3rd world countries.  It's astounding.

My point is that a LOT of people here are only posting because they get paid to do it, and a lot of them are uneducated knuckleheads who have great difficulty stringing words together so that they form coherent sentences.  The end result is that they learn how to write a small number of thoughts, and a lot of them are ideas they've copied from places, and none of it is original or interesting.  That's the main reason you keep reading the same shit over and over.  I think of this forum as a bullshit words reconstitution factory, because that's what they all do.  One of the cliches I see very often is "Never gamble [or invest] more than you're prepared to lose", which should be obvious to any rational person, but these shitposters find it necessary to write this in thread after thread.

So that's the main reason why, OP.  Others might disagree with me, but this is the truth as I see it.


I find the same thing on Reddit honestly, despite the lack of signature campaigns, and even when the bounty campaigns for coins are long over, the low effort shilling continues. If there isn't any bounty left, what's the point in posting in every damn thread about [insert coin] and saying "Wow! This is great news for [insert coin]!". Are they holding bags? Or hired shills working out of a click farm? I can't tell anymore.
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OP, if you're new to bitcointalk you might not be aware that there are these things called signature campaigns, where businesses rent out members' signature and/or avatar spaces, and some of the campaigns pay enough to finance a pimp lifestyle for those who live in 3rd world countries.  It's astounding.

My point is that a LOT of people here are only posting because they get paid to do it, and a lot of them are uneducated knuckleheads who have great difficulty stringing words together so that they form coherent sentences.  The end result is that they learn how to write a small number of thoughts, and a lot of them are ideas they've copied from places, and none of it is original or interesting.  That's the main reason you keep reading the same shit over and over.  I think of this forum as a bullshit words reconstitution factory, because that's what they all do.  One of the cliches I see very often is "Never gamble [or invest] more than you're prepared to lose", which should be obvious to any rational person, but these shitposters find it necessary to write this in thread after thread.

So that's the main reason why, OP.  Others might disagree with me, but this is the truth as I see it.

Unfortunately, all of this is true. To be honest, I think more than 70% who posts in a couple days in a week are already in signature campaigns. They don't care where their posts and what they said, The most important to him is to write a lot (It's doesn't mean good posts, All of them are shit posts) and get paid.
 
They don't care about the forum, they are too greedy and think only for the profit, people like that, should be all tagged. They don't make any effort to write a good post, At least if anyone poor in English, he should post in local section and try to improve his English in the same time.
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February 26, 2018, 11:11:36 PM
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You forgot the two most imfamous cliche trading tips of all time and those are

-DYOR (do your own research for those who don't know Wink)
-Invest what you can afford to lose

Yes, this is very common  along with "Buy Low, Sell High". Seems very simple but its difficult if you don't know the perfect timing to sell and buy. LOL Also, you will understand the "Invest what you can afford to lose" if you are in the situation, when you totally wreck/rekt. This advise is really helpful and  you'll appreciate it, when you are in the situation.
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I've been in cryptocurrency trading for a while, and one of my pet peeves is hearing the same regurgitated advice.  The two most frequent are "Buy low and sell high" and "Buy the dips".  When the market corrects, "You should have taken profits."  When it recovers, "You should have hodled."  It gets old.  What do you think?
You have been hearing this old adage, because its very effective and it will never gets old. And its not only applicable to crypto but to stocks as well so you need to follow that kind of advice and see how it works on your end.

And unless you have something new to offer to challenge that then there's no need to be tired of those old sayings.









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February 26, 2018, 11:46:33 PM
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Those advise usually work for it has been tested many times by different people including me. I understand your pain. If you want to make your gains in trading, I will advise you not to be a full-time trader instead HODL and trade together. I basically don't encourage people to trade their bitcoin (it's worth more than that) instead trade any coin gotten from ICOs that when hold won't yield any fruit.
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