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Author Topic: [ANN] UBIC:The cryptocurrency providing UBI for the masses using the E-Passport  (Read 18154 times)
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September 27, 2019, 10:36:46 PM
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So now the NFC passport reader is on the app store https://apps.apple.com/app/id1481019012?fbclid=IwAR0MMnZliJHbCA3BgNPtI2YRjwWxioR9kVqPibwvW-B0clwNoPQh1KLba5A

Would be nice if some people could test it and write me back if they find a bug.

Android app to get a crypto UBI. (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=network.ubic.ubic)
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October 18, 2019, 01:56:50 PM
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Good news! UBIC will soon support Spanish passports issued after July 2016.
Same for passports from Hong Kong issued after July 2019.
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October 23, 2019, 09:08:02 AM
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Great, looking forward to it!  Smiley

Good news! UBIC will soon support Spanish passports issued after July 2016.
Same for passports from Hong Kong issued after July 2019.
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October 28, 2019, 11:02:35 PM
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This is how the iOS app will look like

Android app to get a crypto UBI. (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=network.ubic.ubic)
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November 18, 2019, 12:38:54 PM
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I would like to understand what makes the difference for you regarding those 61 pkd - members: https://www.icao.int/Security/FAL/PKD/Pages/ICAO-PKDParticipants.aspx
Is there some security issue that makes some of those PKDParticipants  infeasible for ubic?

As of November 2019 that list has grown to 70 pkd-members. Will ubic soon include other pkd-members as well?
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November 18, 2019, 01:36:05 PM
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I created a Telegram group: https://t.me/ubiccrypto

Android app to get a crypto UBI. (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=network.ubic.ubic)
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December 16, 2019, 11:09:53 PM
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UHK and UES have now activated.
Make sure to run version 0.3.1
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December 28, 2019, 05:54:08 PM
Last edit: December 28, 2019, 06:24:45 PM by Ubiubi18
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what about Passports from Brazil, Russia, India, Korea, Argentinia, Nigeria? I guess they all have likely less secure standards no matter that they are PKD-Participants?... What if you introduce currencies for each of them anyway, on the condition that their registered passports get only ubi when  ubic-participants holding secure passports validate and trust those registered accounts manually? Validation could mean approving how long those documents are legit and approving that the person on the passports picture was in private contact with them? So a participant for example from Russia would have a harder time to join and would have to ask for private validation and more intrusive private KYC in a telegram-chanel or discord-chanel, and would receive only UBIC when s/he is trusted by a legit UBIC-account (holding a passport of the current 28 allowed Countries). Trust could be limited to a few or even just one trust-connection each legit UBIC-Participant so that noone is able to trust multiple sybils.

Something like that could open up UBIC to a lot of additional participants?
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December 28, 2019, 06:05:32 PM
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So 5 Certifications neccessary for a "sans papers"-Account, but only 1 or two Certifications neccessary for a less secure but still legit E-Passport-Account. I love that idea Wink

 
I released version 0.1.8 and I highly recommend to upgrade to this version.

i did update my node yesterday. most respect for your work!

Another blasphemic idea: if it is possible to run all those different passport currencys on top of ubic blockchain, wouldnt it be also possible to run one additional "sans papiers" ubic currency on that blockchain too, low level security just with for example recaptcha / email /( mobile, but that costs something)? You can use the wallet and trade ubic without having to register passport, right? We know that Sybil Attacker can fake thousands of accounts and try to harvest such a currency, they would most likely do. But what if that nonsafe currency trades free against passport currency anyway? Wouldnt it have a free market value higher than zero just for engaging new people without passports or for engaging people who care extremly for their anonymity, by a faktor x lower, but still with value because it gives you a sense of beeing part of something? And you can still level up to real passport (and probably faktor X0.000 higher ubi) if you like?

I had in mind the idea of creating a hybrid solution that would combine a web of trust with the use of the current E-Passport approach.
Under this scheme every E-passport holder would be able to certify 3 other people. If someone gets 5 certifications he would get a UBI too.
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December 30, 2019, 12:17:49 AM
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what about Passports from Brazil, Russia, India, Korea, Argentinia, Nigeria? I guess they all have likely less secure standards no matter that they are PKD-Participants?... What if you introduce currencies for each of them anyway, on the condition that their registered passports get only ubi when  ubic-participants holding secure passports validate and trust those registered accounts manually? Validation could mean approving how long those documents are legit and approving that the person on the passports picture was in private contact with them? So a participant for example from Russia would have a harder time to join and would have to ask for private validation and more intrusive private KYC in a telegram-chanel or discord-chanel, and would receive only UBIC when s/he is trusted by a legit UBIC-account (holding a passport of the current 28 allowed Countries). Trust could be limited to a few or even just one trust-connection each legit UBIC-Participant so that noone is able to trust multiple sybils.

Something like that could open up UBIC to a lot of additional participants?

Theoretically, all passports that follow the ICAO DOC 9303 standard and it's recommendations can join UBIC.
It is just that the implementation is moving forward slowly in some countries and some haven't done it right yet. This year we were able to add Iceland, Hong Kong and Spain and I expect that by 2030 a large majority of countries will be UBIC compatible. There are also a lot of other tasks that need to be done in the core and have a higher priority.
One of them is to get the voting done so that it will become possible to elect validator nodes. This will make UBIC truely decentralized which it isn't yet.
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December 31, 2019, 04:35:23 AM
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We have kind of a problem. I checked the https://download.pkd.icao.int/ website for the latest DSC (Document Signing Certificate ) and it seems that at least Germany and Austria are not publishing theirs anymore, or they are both very late with their release.

The good news is that there is a workaround, the DSC is always present on the NFC chip of the E-Passport and can therefor be extracted from there. From now on when a user is posting it's passport registration transaction it will include the DSC certificate from the passport.

This is a lot of work and this is why I haven't done it yet, but once implemented it will provide a lot of advantages and no more waiting times to register on UBIC when you just got your passport issued.

Also accepting DSCs from user input is not a security threat as each DSC is signed by the Country Signing Authority and therefor it is not possible to forge one.
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January 08, 2020, 12:05:36 PM
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if you say that the access to International Civil Aviation Organization Public Key Directory is soon not mandative anymore for ubic to work, that may allow more countries to get a ubic-currency, right? Sounds exciting Wink
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January 08, 2020, 12:10:26 PM
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its a good concept but i doubt it will work
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January 08, 2020, 12:38:17 PM
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so this project has passports that can let you go to different countries?
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January 08, 2020, 12:49:28 PM
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its a good concept but i doubt it will work

Have a look at the block explorer at ubic.network: 51 passports are allready registered, no matter that it is a low profile project. UBIC might enable a lot of unique applications soon with its concept of sybil resistance, all independend from the idea of basic income. Sybil resistance is the key.
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January 08, 2020, 12:52:11 PM
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so this project has passports that can let you go to different countries?

You register pseudonymously with your epass via nfc, please have a look here https://github.com/rgex/UBIC-android-wallet
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January 08, 2020, 03:07:11 PM
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so this project has passports that can let you go to different countries?

You register pseudonymously with your epass via nfc, please have a look here https://github.com/rgex/UBIC-android-wallet

ah i might look into giving it a try, it seems to be pretty unique / interesting though
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January 08, 2020, 04:19:44 PM
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if you say that the access to International Civil Aviation Organization Public Key Directory is soon not mandative anymore for ubic to work, that may allow more countries to get a ubic-currency, right? Sounds exciting Wink

Yes, but I cannot check if their DSC certificates are compatible without having seen one before.
But it is a good thing not to be dependent on one single website anymore.
The CSCA Masterlists unlike the DSC certificates are available from several sources including:
 - https://www.npkd.nl/
 - https://www.bsi.bund.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/BSI/ElekAusweise/CSCA/GermanMasterList.html
 - https://ec.europa.eu/jrc/en/schengen-master-list-pilot
and so on...
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January 08, 2020, 04:21:59 PM
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so this project has passports that can let you go to different countries?
No, the projects let's you receive a cryptoUBI. You can scan the NFC chip of your passport when you generate a new address to prove you are not a bot and in return you get a share of every block that is minted.
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January 15, 2020, 10:49:32 AM
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Unfortunately the release of the UBIC wallet on the iOS App Store failed because a company account is required to publish cryptocurrency related apps.
I am working on a solution.

Android app to get a crypto UBI. (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=network.ubic.ubic)
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