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Many of you have probably seen my gambling service thread, where I enjoyed great success gambling deposits for users. The purpose of that service was to (along with bring some profit for myself) test and tweak some gambling scripts and methods I've been working on.

I'm going to be putting up two products for sale here.

The Player Edge Script

This script is designed for crash sites, and has been backtested against around 2 years worth of data. This script is intended for use on provably fair sites (not sites where game outcomes are not calculated via cryptographic hashes), which ensures that all odds remain mathematically calculable. The script itself is not proprietary - the strategy itself is rather primitive. However, the specific numbers have been tweaked and tested hundreds of times by me personally, and I have come up with what I believe to be the perfect script. Obviously, results may vary, but in my experience, this is a golden script and you cannot go wrong with it. Take a look at my thread and look at all the profit that was made - that too, with a very shoddy version of Player Edge. Historically, this script is able to give me upwards of 10% on each round of playing, and is also able to indicate, in a way, the coming games' outcomes based on immediately preceding games. Note that although this script can work automatically, it is best to keep a take-profit point below 30% (it is what I usually do, and it has worked out absolutely superbly).

To minimize saturation, I am only selling 15 copies of this script, and the price per script will be 0.99 BTC. To ensure safety of delivery, I highly recommend that the script should be sent via PGP encryption. If your mode of communication is compromised and the script is leaked due to an error on your side, you will be held accountable.

Additional Method

This is a personal method for a specific gambling site that I have been using for many years, and it has consistently delivered me profit. It is not a script (so it cannot be automated) nor is it as mathematically sound as Player Edge, but it is a method that I believe in, and something that works for me every day. Keep in mind that the daily expected profit is about 6 to 10%, and you will require a free VPN (or even better, a MAC spoofer) for this method to work most efficiently.

I will be selling 45 copies of this method, and it will be priced at 0.44 BTC.


My Skype is live:aliaarmelle - please feel free to add me if you have any further questions about the working or purchase of either Player Edge or the additional method. I'm happy to answer any and all queries in detail, but I will not compromise the exact details of any of the above products unless a purchase is made. Please do not try to negotiate, and please do not try to get me to sell extra copies, because everything mentioned here is set in stone. Have a great day!

Reselling any part of the script/method in any way, shape or form, including accidental leakage, is a breach of my terms of service. Doing so will result in a scam report, and where applicable, a police report. Note that you will also be put on my personal hitlist, which is something you do not want. Gamble safely and responsibly,
 and please only gamble if/when it is legal in your jurisdiction. I will not be held responsible if you are not allowed to gamble (eg. you live in a country where gambling is banned, you are underage, etc.) and you use these products, because the decision to use them will be your own. Any legal consequence that occurs due to use of these products is solely your responsibility.


Was given a vouch copy of the method by op and played around with in with funds from the faucet.

In my limited experience if it, I profited and worked perfectly. Would recommend.

I made an extremely good ROI, and I’m sure that others who buy the method will experience similar results. Thanks, Alia!


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able to indicate, in a way, the coming games' outcomes based on immediately preceding games.

1. Are you saying your script can predict the future outcomes to a certain level?

2. Would this also work on the new Bab v2? (since you mention "crash games")

3. Also, just for the record, are you claiming that players have a positive expected return based on these methods? Or do you agree they are just gambling and likely to lose money?

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Keep in mind that the daily expected profit is about 6 to 10%

4. So if you start with 1 BTC. You will have 1*1.06^365 = 1,724,411,147 BTC after 1 year. And that is the worst-case scenario, 10% is even a lot more. Why sell if you can make almost 2 billion BTC from only a single BTC in 1 year?

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able to indicate, in a way, the coming games' outcomes based on immediately preceding games.

1. Are you saying your script can predict the future outcomes to a certain level?

2. Would this also work on the new Bab v2? (since you mention "crash games")

3. Also, just for the record, are you claiming that players have a positive expected return based on these methods? Or do you agree they are just gambling and likely to lose money?

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Keep in mind that the daily expected profit is about 6 to 10%

4. So if you start with 1 BTC. You will have 1*1.06^365 = 1,724,411,147 BTC after 1 year. And that is the worst-case scenario, 10% is even a lot more. Why sell if you can make almost 2 billion BTC from only a single BTC in 1 year?

Excellent questions.

It is important to note that no matter what, gambling will always be EV- for players and EV+ for the casino owners. Given an infinite amount of time, no script or player can beat the house edge. However, this script is not intended for long-run use. Use it like I do - get in and get out. This way, the script is able to play in a scenario of random chance, and is not subject to the long-run house edge advantage (this is why I named it Player Edge; because it adds more fairness to the game). Keep in mind that although running this script for 30 mins can double your money, running it for 24 hours will almost certainly cause you to lose it. Included with the script will be my usage guide (which allows me to make consistent profits). This is why I recommend you to set a TP of 10-30%, as that is where usage is optimal.

Since games are based on variance, they are also subject to a degree of mathematical probability. You can say quite safely that there will not be two games with a 1000x multiplier adjacent to each other within your lifetime. You can also say that the odds of getting two games above 1.01x adjacently are quite high, and so on. Based on preceding games, the script can indicate (to a mathematical extent) what kind of games are about to come consequently. It is naturally not foolproof; but it can purely indicate.


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able to indicate, in a way, the coming games' outcomes based on immediately preceding games.

1. Are you saying your script can predict the future outcomes to a certain level?

2. Would this also work on the new Bab v2? (since you mention "crash games")

3. Also, just for the record, are you claiming that players have a positive expected return based on these methods? Or do you agree they are just gambling and likely to lose money?

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Keep in mind that the daily expected profit is about 6 to 10%

4. So if you start with 1 BTC. You will have 1*1.06^365 = 1,724,411,147 BTC after 1 year. And that is the worst-case scenario, 10% is even a lot more. Why sell if you can make almost 2 billion BTC from only a single BTC in 1 year?

Excellent questions.

It is important to note that no matter what, gambling will always be EV- for players and EV+ for the casino owners. Given an infinite amount of time, no script or player can beat the house edge. However, this script is not intended for long-run use. Use it like I do - get in and get out. This way, the script is able to play in a scenario of random chance, and is not subject to the long-run house edge advantage (this is why I named it Player Edge; because it adds more fairness to the game). Keep in mind that although running this script for 30 mins can double your money, running it for 24 hours will almost certainly cause you to lose it. Included with the script will be my usage guide (which allows me to make consistent profits). This is why I recommend you to set a TP of 10-30%, as that is where usage is optimal.

Since games are based on variance, they are also subject to a degree of mathematical probability. You can say quite safely that there will not be two games with a 1000x multiplier adjacent to each other within your lifetime. You can also say that the odds of getting two games above 1.01x adjacently are quite high, and so on. Based on preceding games, the script can indicate (to a mathematical extent) what kind of games are about to come consequently. It is naturally not foolproof; but it can purely indicate.


This is false. The most important trait of RNGs is that the next result cannot be predicted, even knowing the previous result. You are claiming to have beaten RNGs, and if you had you would be using this exploit to win money from sites yourself, not sell a "method" to other people.
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(this is why I named it Player Edge; because it adds more fairness to the game)
There is no such thing as "more fairness".

Based on preceding games, the script can indicate (to a mathematical extent) what kind of games are about to come consequently.
Each round is 100% independent from each other. What you are describing is the classic gambler's fallacy.

It is important to note that no matter what, gambling will always be EV- for players and EV+ for the casino owners.
At least you agree it's still EV-, players are still expected to lose money. (And therefor one must be very stupid to buy this.)

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able to indicate, in a way, the coming games' outcomes based on immediately preceding games.

1. Are you saying your script can predict the future outcomes to a certain level?

2. Would this also work on the new Bab v2? (since you mention "crash games")

3. Also, just for the record, are you claiming that players have a positive expected return based on these methods? Or do you agree they are just gambling and likely to lose money?

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Keep in mind that the daily expected profit is about 6 to 10%

4. So if you start with 1 BTC. You will have 1*1.06^365 = 1,724,411,147 BTC after 1 year. And that is the worst-case scenario, 10% is even a lot more. Why sell if you can make almost 2 billion BTC from only a single BTC in 1 year?

Excellent questions.

It is important to note that no matter what, gambling will always be EV- for players and EV+ for the casino owners. Given an infinite amount of time, no script or player can beat the house edge. However, this script is not intended for long-run use. Use it like I do - get in and get out. This way, the script is able to play in a scenario of random chance, and is not subject to the long-run house edge advantage (this is why I named it Player Edge; because it adds more fairness to the game). Keep in mind that although running this script for 30 mins can double your money, running it for 24 hours will almost certainly cause you to lose it. Included with the script will be my usage guide (which allows me to make consistent profits). This is why I recommend you to set a TP of 10-30%, as that is where usage is optimal.

Since games are based on variance, they are also subject to a degree of mathematical probability. You can say quite safely that there will not be two games with a 1000x multiplier adjacent to each other within your lifetime. You can also say that the odds of getting two games above 1.01x adjacently are quite high, and so on. Based on preceding games, the script can indicate (to a mathematical extent) what kind of games are about to come consequently. It is naturally not foolproof; but it can purely indicate.


This is false. The most important trait of RNGs is that the next result cannot be predicted, even knowing the previous result. You are claiming to have beaten RNGs, and if you had you would be using this exploit to win money from sites yourself, not sell a "method" to other people.

Incorrect, although each individual value is calculated through random variance, patterns between numbers can still be identified. Also, an RNG is very different from a simple (0.99/odds) calculator, where the expected odds of each number has a percentage that has been set. For example, we know that the odds of hitting two 100+x's in a row are 0.00009801. I'm selling the method mainly for altruistic purposes (I have already made quite a bit of profit for myself as well as investors; sharing the method not only helps others, but allows me to make some additional money without worrying about variance).

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(this is why I named it Player Edge; because it adds more fairness to the game)
There is no such thing as "more fairness".

Based on preceding games, the script can indicate (to a mathematical extent) what kind of games are about to come consequently.
Each round is 100% independent from each other. What you are describing is the classic gambler's fallacy.

It is important to note that no matter what, gambling will always be EV- for players and EV+ for the casino owners.
At least you agree it's still EV-, players are still expected to lose money. (And therefor one must be very stupid to buy this.)

In the long run, players will always face EV- odds. In the short run, however, everything is variance, and this script takes advantage of this. It has made me money, it has made investors money, and it continues to do so. Say what you will - the results speak for themselves.

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This is false. The most important trait of RNGs is that the next result cannot be predicted, even knowing the previous result. You are claiming to have beaten RNGs, and if you had you would be using this exploit to win money from sites yourself, not sell a "method" to other people.

Incorrect, although each individual value is calculated through random variance, patterns between numbers can still be identified. Also, an RNG is very different from a simple (0.99/odds) calculator, where the expected odds of each number has a percentage that has been set. For example, we know that the odds of hitting two 100+x's in a row are 0.00009801. I'm selling the method mainly for altruistic purposes (I have already made quite a bit of profit for myself as well as investors; sharing the method not only helps others, but allows me to make some additional money without worrying about variance).
Just because you can find a pattern in the numbers that have already been generated does not mean that pattern extends to the proceeding numbers. You're describing extrapolation and it's not at all helpful for this.
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This is false. The most important trait of RNGs is that the next result cannot be predicted, even knowing the previous result. You are claiming to have beaten RNGs, and if you had you would be using this exploit to win money from sites yourself, not sell a "method" to other people.

Incorrect, although each individual value is calculated through random variance, patterns between numbers can still be identified. Also, an RNG is very different from a simple (0.99/odds) calculator, where the expected odds of each number has a percentage that has been set. For example, we know that the odds of hitting two 100+x's in a row are 0.00009801. I'm selling the method mainly for altruistic purposes (I have already made quite a bit of profit for myself as well as investors; sharing the method not only helps others, but allows me to make some additional money without worrying about variance).
Just because you can find a pattern in the numbers that have already been generated does not mean that pattern extends to the proceeding numbers. You're describing extrapolation and it's not at all helpful for this.

Words and theories are all cool and good; I'm interested in results, which are what this script provides. I'm handing out a vouch copy to a trusted member (for the script) and will be handing out two vouch copies for the method. Let's hope they get the results that all my customers are getting.

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February 27, 2018, 05:56:55 AM
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Was given a vouch copy of the method by op and played around with in with funds from the faucet.

With the 10 minutes I used this script with, I profited and worked perfectly. Would recommend.

I made an extremely good ROI, and I’m sure that others who buy the method will experience similar results. Thanks, Alia!


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February 27, 2018, 05:58:50 AM
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Was given a vouch copy of the method by op and played around with in with funds from the faucet.

In my limited experience if it, I profited and worked perfectly. Would recommend.

I made an extremely good ROI, and I’m sure that others who buy the method will experience similar results. Thanks, Alia!


Appreciate it, thanks for taking the vouch copy.

All copies of both products are still available! Online and selling.

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Incorrect, although each individual value is calculated through random variance, patterns between numbers can still be identified. Also, an RNG is very different from a simple (0.99/odds) calculator, where the expected odds of each number has a percentage that has been set. For example, we know that the odds of hitting two 100+x's in a row are 0.00009801.

Irrelevant.

Imagine a 10-sided dice. The odds of throwing exactly 7 is 1/10 = 10%. If you throw a 5 first, the odds of throwing a 7 next is still 10%. If you throw a 7, the odds of throwing a 7 after that is still 10%. The throws are independent from each other. That seems pretty obvious, right?

Now, the odds of throwing two times 7 after each other are indeed 1/10*1/10 = 1%. But this still does not affect the probability of the throw after the first 7. This logic, where you think there are "patterns", is the classic gambler's fallacy. Your strategy is clearly based on this fallacy, just like most strategies like martingale are based on that.


I'm selling the method mainly for altruistic purposes (I have already made quite a bit of profit for myself as well as investors; sharing the method not only helps others, but allows me to make some additional money without worrying about variance).
You are hoping to make BTC34.65 in total with selling this losing strategy. Acting as if you are just helping others seems ridiculous.



PS, initially this reply was removed - which IMO warranted negative trust as warning for potential buyers. I believe potential buyers should have all information available and then they can decide for themselves if they want to buy this or not. OP and I agreed to keep it in this thread instead of on the trust page.

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Incorrect, although each individual value is calculated through random variance, patterns between numbers can still be identified. Also, an RNG is very different from a simple (0.99/odds) calculator, where the expected odds of each number has a percentage that has been set. For example, we know that the odds of hitting two 100+x's in a row are 0.00009801.

Irrelevant.

Imagine a 10-sided dice. The odds of throwing exactly 7 is 1/10 = 10%. If you throw a 5 first, the odds of throwing a 7 next is still 10%. If you throw a 7, the odds of throwing a 7 after that is still 10%. The throws are independent from each other. That seems pretty obvious, right?

Now, the odds of throwing two times 7 after each other are indeed 1/10*1/10 = 1%. But this still does not affect the probability of the throw after the first 7. This logic, where you think there are "patterns", is the classic gambler's fallacy. Your strategy is clearly based on this fallacy, just like most strategies like martingale are based on that.


I'm selling the method mainly for altruistic purposes (I have already made quite a bit of profit for myself as well as investors; sharing the method not only helps others, but allows me to make some additional money without worrying about variance).
You are hoping to make BTC34.65 in total with selling this losing strategy. Acting as if you are just helping others seems ridiculous.



PS, initially this reply was removed - which IMO warranted negative trust as warning for potential buyers. I believe potential buyers should have all information available and then they can decide for themselves if they want to buy this or not. OP and I agreed to keep it in this thread instead of on the trust page.

You are absolutely right. However, in my experience, there are sections of games that are clearly different from one another. Quoting myself...

"Based on preceding games, the script can indicate (to a mathematical extent) what kind of games are about to come consequently. It is naturally not foolproof; but it can purely indicate."

Being a pure indication, these are generally unreliable, but can prove to be helpful. It is true that each game is individual and its odds are calculated individually, but if you think of games as sets of games, you can definitely see some mathematical odds. For example, there are 1-2 games with a 1000+x multiplier, but there has never been a game with two such games in a row. While the odds for a single game getting 1000x are (0.99/1000), the odds for two consecutive games hitting that are ((0.99/1000)^2). In the same way, let's think of a set of 10 games. The odds of all ten games busting above 1.1x are (0.9)^10 = ~35%. The odds of twenty games busting above 1.1x are (0.9)^20 = 12%. Thus, if 10 games bust above 1.1x, it can be reasonably assumed (as per the "gambler's fallacy") that the next ten games will probably have a bust below 1.1x. Naturally - this is a mathematical fallacy, because the odds of the ten games are calculated in an isolated fashion and are not involved with each other. However, in my practice and experience (while playing and tweaking the script), it has worked near-flawlessly, and I continue to make profit this way. Try it out yourself, if you don't believe me.

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