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July 20, 2011, 12:47:45 AM
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Ok so I started the new time sink of glbse.com

Managed to register but...now what?

Hoo boy, this is going to be a challenge:

https://glbse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=24

I can hear the twilght zone theme.

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Hoo baby, and I thought my documentation was tedious.

I either need to be much more awake or much more stimulated.

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July 20, 2011, 01:13:28 AM
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Ok so I started the new time sink of glbse.com

Managed to register but...now what?

Hoo boy, this is going to be a challenge:

https://glbse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=24

I can hear the twilght zone theme.

8^)

GLBSE is still being developed. It has gotten much better than when it started at the beginning of May. Seems to be down (or at least not working) at the moment. Has had bugs in the past, but Nefario usually fixes them quickly. He is in the process of moving, but should be getting alot done soon (I think he said he would be back in touch Today.

I'm in no great hurry. It'll take me a few days to digest the instructions.

The powers that be say it is safe and important so i will give it a shot.

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July 20, 2011, 01:44:19 AM
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I tried to go their today, and my browser didn't like the page..

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July 20, 2011, 01:54:35 AM
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I tried to go their today, and my browser didn't like the page..

Aparently "self-issued" certificates do that.

The elders here seem to trust it so I do too.


TaiChi huh? I'm looking for another Yang style instuctor to no avail yet...

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July 20, 2011, 02:03:49 AM
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Not to hijack the thread, but being new here, where do I see these elder posts?

(And yes, Yang style.  did you do Cheng Man-Ching's form?)

I guess I'm just unclear on what glbse actually does.  Is it like a stock exchange?

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July 20, 2011, 05:29:10 AM
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Not to hijack the thread, but being new here, where do I see these elder posts?

(And yes, Yang style.  did you do Cheng Man-Ching's form?)

I guess I'm just unclear on what glbse actually does.  Is it like a stock exchange?

Peter has steered you right.

(I studied under Dr Hong near Topical Park in Miami many years ago. These videos are the closest I have found to what he taught us;
http://www.taiji.de/taiji/head5e/index.htm
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I have to admit still being unclear on the complete hows and whys of glbse too. 8^)

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July 20, 2011, 05:54:13 AM
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I had difficulty first using GLBSE also, still do but I don't have to visit it often.

The SSL certificate message when visiting the site just means that the cert is not signed by a CA (Certificate Authority) recognized by your web browser. I think the reason Nefario has not got a signed cert yet is that GLBSE was not originally built to have a web ui client IIRC. I remember when launched you had to use a console client to interact with GLBSE.

The reason I trust the certificate even though my browser doesn't, is because I know of Nefario and have followed his activities for some months, he has been here quite a while, I have interacted with him and never a red flag or concern over his ethics.

I hope that he finishes up the code and some documentation soon for the web ui. I see GLBSE as useful and beneficial to the community, just needs that easier to understand and simpler web ui stuff done and it will get used.

If you post where you are stuck or something about it you don't understand I will do my best to answer.

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July 20, 2011, 03:39:41 PM
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A bitcoin stock market and trading system seems like a great idea, and a necessary progression for the bitcoin economy.  Be interesting to see how the UI part develops.
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July 22, 2011, 12:42:24 AM
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I  generated a local RSA keypair, created a password, can log in with a password, see my "account" I created, and click on the "deposit" button to get the address to send bitcoins to.  However, that box doesn't fill in.  I see a pop-up that says "Object: object", then goes away.  But no address to send to.  Running Firefox 5.0.1 on Mac OSX Snow Leopard.  Ideas?
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July 22, 2011, 01:30:59 AM
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So how and why and when would would you want to ..  "go public"?

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July 22, 2011, 01:50:46 AM
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So how and why and when would would you want to ..  "go public"?

I think he means in general.

Same reason as in the 'real world', to raise capital.

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July 22, 2011, 01:53:14 AM
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So is GLBSE down right now or not? I am looking to set up a business. I just need investors.
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July 22, 2011, 02:06:37 AM
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Glbse is having issues atm,
Nefario is way cool, and a asset to the bitcoin community. Its ok to trust his sites ( I guess I should say at the moment, but I dont see nefario having a change of ethics any time soon).

The GLBSE is like a automated market such as NYSE or NASDAQ in a sense that a computer processes orders rather than a market maker like in pink sheet stocks. It is pretty cool, we raised some startup capital for BitFlowSys using GLBSE, and you can too.
It is like a completely non regulated stock market though so be careful who you invest in. The person who creates the asset to be sold has a lot of control that they wouldn't normally have in the real world stock markets.

When it comes to being "user mean" , I cant argue to much. But at the same time, I trust Nefario's security more than my own comp sometimes and will keep my BTC there for safe keeping. Plus he actually will answer you if you have a question or concern. He walked me through setting it up in the beginning when it was the hardest.

Long story short nefario is cool, glbse is going to be HUGE, its worth learning how to use it. when its fixed*

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July 22, 2011, 04:29:15 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=glbse&aq=f

I stumbled on some videos for glbse made by Nefario. The bass is outrageous but it might help you. Smiley

On that note if anyone knows a video producer who could make some instructional video content for glbse contact me or nefario with your/their terms.

I find having a visual walkthrough for this stuff is the best way to handle it.
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July 22, 2011, 10:24:49 AM
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It's seems to me (early impression) that there isn't really an effective means of disseminating good ideas like glbse .... it is pretty apparent that if it does not succeed, it will be because people did not know it existed and/or what on earth it was.  This Forum technology for instance, it's a bit pathetic isn't it?  Roll Eyes Surely Facebook and/or Google+ has better answers for the 'Bitcoin Wealth Generation Information' side of Bitcoin ...... but I digress. Maybe I haven't yet stumbled across a central index that is updated A to Z with Services and Citations/Reviews?  In conclusion, if this Forum is supposed to be it - then we all need something to replace it fast.  I am a Marketing Technologist and prolly won't find anything technically challenging within the Forum BUT the people who will make this Bitcoin a global success are not geeks.  We need to get public friendly, as doing so will likely make we few (at the moment) quite a BitWealthy.  Wink
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July 22, 2011, 11:34:46 AM
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So isn't there any danger running afoul with the SEC for selling 'securities' tied to your company when going public through GBSE without registering with them?

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July 22, 2011, 11:36:20 AM
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Hello, sorry I'm late to the conversation, was in transit,then a box, then transit again for quite a few days so no internet access.

Smalleyster, the documentation for listing on GLBSE has been updated with some (terrible) videos to get started (noagendamarket, this is the general idea of what I'm looking for in the videos).

Check here. https://glbse.com/listing.rhtml

Peter has it right about just what GLBSE does (thanks Peter).

There have been some major changes in my circumstances and plans that I will be elaborating on over the next few days. These changes are going to result in changes to for GLBSE for the better, that is GLBSE is going to start improving across the board from reliability, to usability right away.

Yes the site had been down, as I said I was in transit since Sunday and bitcoind had died. Since I'm paranoid no one else but me has access to the servers (ColdHardMetal has the passwords but is very trustworthy and is not an admin), so when things go down I'm the only one who can do anything. And in this case I was unable to do anything as I had no internet access for the past few days. I'm sorry for the disruption, and it's something that I'm going to be working my ass off to prevent again.

With regards the self signed cert, it is actually more secure, you may have heard that comodo ( a certificate authority) had managed to have it's signing keys stolen, and a number of fraudulent certificates for various sites (I believe GMail was one) were issued using these stolen keys. The hackers were then able to decrypt ssl traffic by Man in the Middling (using the newly issued fake cert) the websites.

The danger of self signed certs is that if the server is broken into(hacked) then the hacker may be able to replace the legit cert with their own and from then on sniff the traffic. However with GLBSE, there is only one reason you would try to break into the server, and that is to steal the bitcoin that is stored there. Also all client accounts are anonymous (unless you have publicly told people what your public ID is).

Nefario.

 

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July 22, 2011, 11:37:55 AM
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So isn't there any danger running afoul with the SEC for selling 'securities' tied to your company when going public through GBSE without registering with them?

I suggest you take this over to the GLBSE forum and post it in the legal section. https://glbse.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=18

There has already been some discussion on https://glbse.com/forum/ about this particular issue.

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July 22, 2011, 02:48:18 PM
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So isn't there any danger running afoul with the SEC for selling 'securities' tied to your company when going public through GBSE without registering with them?

Everything's denominated in Bitcoins. As far as the US Government's concerned, we're playing 'Monopoly'. Also, and this may just be the Agorist in me talking... Who cares?

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July 22, 2011, 03:06:47 PM
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So isn't there any danger running afoul with the SEC for selling 'securities' tied to your company when going public through GBSE without registering with them?

Everything's denominated in Bitcoins. As far as the US Government's concerned, we're playing 'Monopoly'. Also, and this may just be the Agorist in me talking... Who cares?

Seriously this has already been discussed on the glbse forums here.

https://glbse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=78

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