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July 23, 2011, 02:35:43 AM
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There is no right or wrong. Your choices are highly influenced by your environment. Examine your environment to determine what influences your thinking process. You can make a better choice after that.

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July 25, 2011, 05:46:41 PM
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There is no right or wrong. Your choices are highly influenced by your environment. Examine your environment to determine what influences your thinking process. You can make a better choice after that.
That is not the best advice in some cases, if your head is messed up enough you will highlight and exaggerate bad things and dismiss or outright ignore the good stuff

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July 25, 2011, 05:55:38 PM
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There is no right or wrong.

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people cause their own troubles.

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July 25, 2011, 06:41:52 PM
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If you are currently under contract of any sort than suicide would be a breach of contract.

On a more moral level I think it is wrong if you have taken responsibility for caring for someone else, whether by having children or taking on the responsibility for someone who is handicapped.

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July 25, 2011, 07:17:00 PM
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You are aware suicide rates are higher for teens on medication than without. What's far worse is too be on them and swing back and forth not taking them as prescribed. I agree if Atlas is swinging on and off medication he needs to stop that whether taking them or not. Well aware of the psychiatric field and it's practices having a mother that worked in psychiatric ER and currently head of the county's drug rehabilitation center. Myself having been on the client side of those through out my teenage/young adult years and later helping those causes through various means. I speak with empathy and real knowledge of the situation Atlas speaks of. Spouting off the same old one solution fits all that's picked up from the tube is what causes folks to fall through the cracks of the system. I'm glad to agree with you on the prescription drug issue to a degree however you easily forget your pusher will always show you whats needed for the sale.

Can you provide a source for these alleged statistics?  Call me curious.

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July 26, 2011, 07:49:30 AM
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=suicide+rates+teens+medication

Lots of stuff out there. As with most statistics, you can make the numbers say whatever you want.
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July 26, 2011, 01:31:29 PM
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Perhaps I'm not being clear?  I meant your statistical source for your opinion (well originally I meant 'slaveindebt' but now that you've seemingly picked up the "torch of stupid").   Not every website which happens to agree with your position.  See the difference?

When you pick a source that you think is credible. Then I'll tear it apart.   Grin

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As with most statistics, you can make the numbers say whatever you want.

Not really.  For example you can't for a given sample and a given confidence level validate an arbitrary confidence interval.
...or is this your way of giving up without a fight.  How disappointing!

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July 28, 2011, 02:25:08 AM
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Atlas says he wants to kill himself, so we spend half the thread arguing about whether medications are good or bad?!?    Huh


Atlas, I've gotten the impression that you don't like me, which is fine, but I want to say this:  don't kill yourself.

Perhaps you are already past the low point and are doing fine now, but it may come again.  And when it does, hang on.  Years from now when you look back you will be glad that you did and you will find things to enjoy in life that make it worth it. 

Also, you should not be alone on this, you need human support, and I don't mean pseudo-anonymous internet "friends".  I don't know your family and friend situation, but you need to talk to people you trust who care about you.  They can help you hang in there when it gets tough.  Anyway, man, please stick with this life thing.  It's worth it and you will not regret the decision.
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August 01, 2011, 02:31:42 AM
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Is it wrong to end your life even though it will hurt those who somehow happen to value you?

IMO, any single person's life is pretty meaningless(always end up in the tomb),  but if for some reason you becomes valueable for someone/somthing, your life start to gain some meaning

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August 02, 2011, 04:08:20 AM
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Is it wrong to end your life even though it will hurt those who somehow happen to value you?


 It ain't wrong to take your life. It's actually better that being taken by others. You are responsible of other's feeling that is why you have to prepare them. I think of suicide a lot lately , most of the time when the effects of drugs are wearing off, but the most horrific times are when waking up after a heavy drinking night, completely unaware of what happened the past night, I keep seeing myself jumping of my balcony , cutting myself , sometimes devil faces hallucinations  Shocked (even if i'm atheist) , But then i think why would i do that , why would i end my life , why would i shut down my brain , why would i stop talking to my friends , why would i stop having fun , and simply shut down myself. I don't believe in afterlife or shit like this so this won't make it easier it would just stop , everything . Even if I would of been worthless , after this i would of became even more so. I would be food for the worms.

So bro your entire life , every happening , every color , every conversation , every substance you had contact with in you life "programed" your brain and your genes in a way that is UNIQUE to you, don't destroy it , use them , and pass them on. Take your friends and talk your problems with them ,( if you think that your problems aren't to be talked with them then they aren't real friends ) and resolve them using your uniqueness.

Don't go to shrinks unless you want to get drugged , otherwise they will sound like imbeciles , they use drugs to "soften" your brain and make it more receptive to their "advice" . This might help but in the long run it might makes things worse because at some point you have to quit both the meds and the nice shrink stories and talking . You've done the best thing so far you acknowledged that you might have a problem , now you can resolve it and you are the only one who actually can.

SO . It ain't wrong but it's a waste . Is waste wrong? No but still  WASTE.
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August 02, 2011, 04:41:41 AM
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There are all sorts of meds and they may have all sorts of different side-effects depending on each person, don't dismiss advice from actual professionals of the area just because random people that didn't study the brain and it's workings tell you about what they believe in

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August 02, 2011, 05:06:27 AM
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stop bumping this, for christ's sake.

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August 03, 2011, 12:48:04 AM
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Is it wrong to end your life even though it will hurt those who somehow happen to value you?
Actually it depends on the situations, if those who value you always keep an eye on you,
then those who value you will have to take decission first Smiley

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August 03, 2011, 02:42:23 AM
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Was trying to avoid bumping this but... US default? What the fuck does this have to do with the US default?

Can we please stop bumping this injury to Atlas' ego? I admire that he hasn't deleted it yet, if this continues for much longer maybe this should just be locked. Jesus. He posted this when he was depressed and would probably like to forget it now.

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