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March 02, 2018, 11:06:57 AM
Last edit: March 02, 2018, 11:28:34 AM by toptek
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It seems the Dag file hit 3 GB, i keep getting out of memory on my 1060 3 GB mining ETH/ETC.  

I guess this Month is it instead of next month ....Sad


https://investoon.com/tools/dag_size


At this rate that could mean 4 GB cards won't be usable for ETH/ETC mining in May/June instead of SEP 2018 .

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March 02, 2018, 11:39:08 AM
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On the page you linked it says Ethereum DAG size is 2.34GB. Also my 1060 3GB cards seem to mine ethereum just fine.
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March 02, 2018, 11:40:44 AM
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Windows 10 update did it, it increased how much memory it needs, so is not related by the dag file, is related by how much memory windows 10 is allocating to be in use. Windows server still okay. I guess soon miners with 3gb gpu will ditch windows 10 and will start using windows server or older versions of windows 10. 1511v works without any problem, problem falls only on fall creators 1709v and after it i guess.

Also I already mentioned this 4 times before it happened, you trolls never listen to me anyway.

https://wccftech.com/nvidias-geforce-gtx-1060-3gbs-rendered-useless-ethereum-mining-dag-file-update/

https://www.reddit.com/r/EtherMining/comments/7ypkdb/which_windows_update_broke_my_3gb_cards/

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4074588/windows-10-update-kb4074588

It must be related to this "Addresses issue where, in certain hardware configurations, the frame rates of DirectX Games were unintentionally limited to a factor of the display's vertical synchronization."

So it means that by increasing the GDDR memory allocation, fixed the issue.

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March 02, 2018, 11:41:28 AM
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On the page you linked it says Ethereum DAG size is 2.34GB. Also my 1060 3GB cards seem to mine ethereum just fine.

Windows requires some GPU memory to operate; not sure what the exact value is but I've seen 200-600MB, so the latter amount gets awfully close to 3GB.

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March 02, 2018, 11:45:42 AM
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On the page you linked it says Ethereum DAG size is 2.34GB. Also my 1060 3GB cards seem to mine ethereum just fine.

Windows requires some GPU memory to operate; not sure what the exact value is but I've seen 200-600MB, so the latter amount gets awfully close to 3GB.



Ok, that would explain it, I am using nvOC, i.e. Linux.

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March 02, 2018, 11:48:55 AM
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It seems the Dag file hit 3 GB, i keep getting out of memory on my 1060 3 GB mining ETH/ETC.  

I guess this Month is it instead of next month ....Sad


https://investoon.com/tools/dag_size


At this rate that could mean 4 GB cards won't be usable for ETH/ETC mining in May/June instead of SEP 2018 .
very sad, dude
if 3GB Dag file this month, VRAM 3GB  become is game over.
yeah, lucky me, at the time of AMD 8 GB release. at that time I decided to buy VRAM 8GB, even though it was VRAM 8GB very expensive. but if VRAM 8GB compared with the current price of course very .. very cheaper.
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March 02, 2018, 12:00:23 PM
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It seems the Dag file hit 3 GB, i keep getting out of memory on my 1060 3 GB mining ETH/ETC.  

I guess this Month is it instead of next month ....Sad


https://investoon.com/tools/dag_size


At this rate that could mean 4 GB cards won't be usable for ETH/ETC mining in May/June instead of SEP 2018 .
very sad, dude
if 3GB Dag file this month, VRAM 3GB  become is game over.
yeah, lucky me, at the time of AMD 8 GB release. at that time I decided to buy VRAM 8GB, even though it was VRAM 8GB very expensive. but if VRAM 8GB compared with the current price of course very .. very cheaper.


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March 02, 2018, 12:00:47 PM
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On W10, set virtual memory 16GB, problem solved.

3GB Card is usable till May 2019
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March 02, 2018, 12:02:55 PM
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On W10, set virtual memory 16GB, problem solved.

3GB Card is usable till May 2019

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March 02, 2018, 12:08:58 PM
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Windows 10 update did it, it increased how much memory it needs, so is not related by the dag file, is related by how much memory windows 10 is allocating to be in use. Windows server still okay. I guess soon miners with 3gb gpu will ditch windows 10 and will start using windows server or older versions of windows 10. 1511v works without any problem, problem falls only on fall creators 1709v and after it i guess.

Also I already mentioned this 4 times before it happened, you trolls never listen to me anyway.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EtherMining/comments/7ypkdb/which_windows_update_broke_my_3gb_cards/

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4074588/windows-10-update-kb4074588

It must be related to this "Addresses issue where, in certain hardware configurations, the frame rates of DirectX Games were unintentionally limited to a factor of the display's vertical synchronization."

So it means that by increasing the GDDR memory allocation, fixed the issue.

if you calling some of us trolls, i don't use reddit.com or watch MS blogs much .. in my defense, if i did i wouldn't have made this thread if that was directed at me.I'm no troll..

To me that's a insult...Roll Eyes....  if i say it i mean it or don't know..


which btw thanks for the info about windows Maxing it to 3 GB didn't think about that .

On W10, set virtual memory 16GB, problem solved.

3GB Card is usable till May 2019


and no that didn't work.

tired that or have mine set to 16384 gb all the time.

  

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March 02, 2018, 12:12:09 PM
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I just updated that post, reading this will help more.

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While the DAG file itself is still smaller than the 3GB limit, there is a small portion of memory that is occupied by the OS and other entities as well. After the recent windows update, it is not not possible to mine Ethereum on a normal windows build with a 3GB 1060. You can still however mine it on Windows Server or Linux which do not take up as much vRAM as Windows 10. The current DAG file size is 2.33 GB which essentially means that windows is now taking up more than 660 mb of vRAM under windows 10 conditions. We are running a very learn installation of windows 10 and were unable to mine on it. As mentioned previously, Windows Server and Linux based rigs should still work fine.

https://wccftech.com/nvidias-geforce-gtx-1060-3gbs-rendered-useless-ethereum-mining-dag-file-update/

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March 02, 2018, 12:18:25 PM
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Thanks i did some searches online and couldn't find anything only what i all ready knew , i guess sense it kept saying out of memory, I assumed I hit the limit which I did but because of windows not from eth/etc mining, I knew other junk loads on the card win i use it just didn't think Windows would load that much.

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March 02, 2018, 12:27:04 PM
Last edit: March 02, 2018, 12:39:37 PM by toptek
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It seems the Dag file hit 3 GB, i keep getting out of memory on my 1060 3 GB mining ETH/ETC.  

I guess this Month is it instead of next month ....Sad


https://investoon.com/tools/dag_size


At this rate that could mean 4 GB cards won't be usable for ETH/ETC mining in May/June instead of SEP 2018 .
very sad, dude
if 3GB Dag file this month, VRAM 3GB  become is game over.
yeah, lucky me, at the time of AMD 8 GB release. at that time I decided to buy VRAM 8GB, even though it was VRAM 8GB very expensive. but if VRAM 8GB compared with the current price of course very .. very cheaper.


that's the only 3gb card i have i have 14 gpu's one rig is or was 6 GTX now it's five  if I want a mine eth/etc and use windows 10 fully updated i guess i can use windows 10 ep lts 2016 for a while.

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March 02, 2018, 01:50:41 PM
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nice work Metroid and thank you Smiley
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Yup, you totally cannot do eth with a 3GB card   Cheesy

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March 02, 2018, 04:07:36 PM
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Metroid is retarded, I have 10 GTX 1060 3GB happily mining Eth as we speak.....

3 of the cards are standalone on mini ITX mobos all running windows 10....

So yeah, I dont know what people are talking about but I can provide proof you CAN mine on windows at this time.
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March 02, 2018, 04:19:33 PM
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Metroid is retarded, I have 10 GTX 1060 3GB happily mining Eth as we speak.....

3 of the cards are standalone on mini ITX mobos all running windows 10....

So yeah, I dont know what people are talking about but I can provide proof you CAN mine on windows at this time.

The amount of VRAM used aside from mining seems to depend on the installation... I have 4 rigs running Win10 and 1 running Win7 and no two of them use the same amount of VRAM. Windows being Windows, I suppose.

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March 02, 2018, 04:33:37 PM
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It seems the Dag file hit 3 GB, i keep getting out of memory on my 1060 3 GB mining ETH/ETC.  

I guess this Month is it instead of next month ....Sad


https://investoon.com/tools/dag_size


At this rate that could mean 4 GB cards won't be usable for ETH/ETC mining in May/June instead of SEP 2018 .

Not sure where you are timing this all out but 3gb cards should be good for a long time still Investoon.com shows 03/MAY/2019 as the hard end of life for 3gb gpu ethereum on block . Run on linux if windows is an issue. If you are looking at any calculations before the byz hard fork in October just remeber that the block times changed with that and adjusted how long all cards have based on DAG alone. Here is an example of a decent projection.

DAG-3gb Epoch-256 Date-03/may/2019

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March 02, 2018, 05:23:06 PM
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DAG-3gb Epoch-256 Date-03/may/2019

You know that counts only the dag size right? Anything that the windows allocates has nothing to do with the dag file.

So to make it simple to understand it works like this --> windows allocation + dag size = eth mine or eth do not mine

Metroid is retarded, I have 10 GTX 1060 3GB happily mining Eth as we speak.....

Are you demented? Who said you cant mine with 3gb gpus? I never said that, I said, do not update to the latest windows 10 version if the gpus are 3gb.

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