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March 03, 2018, 04:58:40 PM
Last edit: March 08, 2018, 09:52:13 AM by MoreFun
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As in any ideal system of slavery. (The ideal slave is the one who says I'm not a slave) You are given emotional or physical benefits, and you succumb to this, enter this game. (this applies not only to Ethereum but also a lot of things that surround us).

And while you are being enjoyed, you are proud to say that you are a master of the game, that you control the game, even achieved something in this game.

But in the end, all the money goes to the one who gives out the cards, and gets a commission (the usual poker scheme). Think about how you can send "Your Tokens" without using ether. Can ICO project get out of this game and say - I'm real owner of the tokens that I released. The most important questions that you should ask yourself - what kind of freedom it limits? And who benefits from these limitations?

https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6375281119151120384

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His Majesty Vitalik's father, coz not wanna to look like a very coward, answered in the comments. But this was not exactly the answer, rather arrogant spittle in the direction of the crypto community.
https://medium.com/@rateico_32282/buterins-cowardice-ethereum-s-bullshit-need-new-rules-real-decentralization-540f1671350e



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March 03, 2018, 05:48:25 PM
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What do you think guys?
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March 03, 2018, 06:00:24 PM
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It is impossible to become slaves voluntarily. People get involved in the game voluntarily. This is not slavery. Similar to roulette, the croupier always has an income. But the players are hoping for luck. No one can know the number where the ball will land. The price of currency on the exchange fluctuates within certain limits. Therefore, there is always a chance to win. These cryptocurrencies differ from casino. ICO is a separate issue. It's getting more complicated because I never participate in such projects.
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March 03, 2018, 06:01:04 PM
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ICOs need a blockchain to operate on and if they choose Ethereum then they are going to have to pay the fees in the way of Ether. Funds can't just move around for free.

There is nothing forcing them to do this, if they wanted to launch their own blockchain prior to their ICO and then hold their ICO on their own blockchain then they could do exactly that.


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March 03, 2018, 06:07:48 PM
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Unfortunately ETH doesn't have competitor as platform for ICO yet. I hope it gonna maybe not this year but in 1-2 years. ETH is like monopoly platform for ICOs. We need competitiveness.
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March 03, 2018, 06:31:05 PM
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ICOs need a blockchain to operate on and if they choose Ethereum then they are going to have to pay the fees in the way of Ether. Funds can't just move around for free.
DAGs is also decentralized, but not fees
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March 03, 2018, 07:35:51 PM
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Unfortunately ETH doesn't have competitor as platform for ICO yet. I hope it gonna maybe not this year but in 1-2 years. ETH is like monopoly platform for ICOs. We need competitiveness.
We should make a framework
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March 03, 2018, 07:40:18 PM
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You are not much of a philosopher really, nor for that matter a very good graphical artist. But to the point, ethereum has made me quite a good sum in benfits, so  I honestly don´t feel like an slave...Just see my username.

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You are not much of a philosopher really, nor for that matter a very good graphical artist. But to the point, ethereum has made me quite a good sum in benfits, so  I honestly don´t feel like an slave...Just see my username.
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March 03, 2018, 09:02:03 PM
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Once you understand the world is a slave plane(t) the continuation of the system will be fought hard, but be lost eventually.
The reversal has started 6 years ago. It is not something to be done overnight.

The as above so below pyramid is the dead giveaway of what is going on.

You know the old monkey trick catch give him candy, but he must pass his hand trough a hole just big enough for the open fist with closed fist (candy in it) he is trapped, caught and cant get away. Most here laugh at the stupid monkey.

He will sacrifice freedom for ever to have a candy.

Thank you for not sending browny points, much appreciated.

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March 03, 2018, 09:32:58 PM
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In fact, you very correctly noticed. If one day something happens to Ethereum. Well, there's something wrong there, a virus, hackers will crack, I do not know. All the thousands of tokens that are created on the Ether platform will disappear?
Projects that create their own purse and have a unique platform certainly have an advantage. However, it is difficult and expensive to do this everything.
The path of least resistance is Ethereum. With your thought of slavery, I agree.

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March 03, 2018, 09:50:57 PM
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In fact, you very correctly noticed. If one day something happens to Ethereum. Well, there's something wrong there, a virus, hackers will crack, I do not know. All the thousands of tokens that are created on the Ether platform will disappear?
Projects that create their own purse and have a unique platform certainly have an advantage. However, it is difficult and expensive to do this everything.
The path of least resistance is Ethereum. With your thought of slavery, I agree.

Even if they have their own wallet they still run on the the ethereum blockchain no?
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March 03, 2018, 10:14:19 PM
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In fact, you very correctly noticed. If one day something happens to Ethereum. Well, there's something wrong there, a virus, hackers will crack, I do not know. All the thousands of tokens that are created on the Ether platform will disappear?
Projects that create their own purse and have a unique platform certainly have an advantage. However, it is difficult and expensive to do this everything.
The path of least resistance is Ethereum. With your thought of slavery, I agree.

Even if they have their own wallet they still run on the the ethereum blockchain no?

There are too much realy good projects with their own blockchains (like Elastos, for example) and don't connected anyway with ethereum. There also projects that use Ethereum for token sale only but develope their own blockchain (like Wanchain, for example). But in general - yes, 90% new projecs use ethereum and this is sad.

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March 04, 2018, 05:04:11 PM
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ICOs need a blockchain to operate on and if they choose Ethereum then they are going to have to pay the fees in the way of Ether. Funds can't just move around for free.
DAGs is also decentralized, but not fees

But no one really uses them yet. I didn't say there is no alternative just that if people choose ethereum they'll have to pay a fee. In the future there might be a transition to other platforms that charge little or no fees.

If an ICO tried to launch on a different blockchain right now it would most likely struggle because people are so used to and dependent on ethereum.

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March 04, 2018, 05:10:25 PM
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ICOs need a blockchain to operate on and if they choose Ethereum then they are going to have to pay the fees in the way of Ether. Funds can't just move around for free.
DAGs is also decentralized, but not fees

But no one really uses them yet. I didn't say there is no alternative just that if people choose ethereum they'll have to pay a fee. In the future there might be a transition to other platforms that charge little or no fees.

If an ICO tried to launch on a different blockchain right now it would most likely struggle because people are so used to and dependent on ethereum.
It's hard to move from Ethereum, i mean ICO project now easily made and always use ERC20 Based Token. It means Ethereum control everything here.
But, i hear ST20 by Polymath. You can check it here : https://www.polymath.network/st20, but the problem is this concept really new and need time to introduce it.

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March 05, 2018, 03:50:12 PM
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Many coins do not correspond to the ideal of the cryptocurrency. I think that there are many questions that would like to discuss the majority in the crypto community.
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March 05, 2018, 09:54:57 PM
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Among ICO recently a lot of skam has appeared too and this must also be controlled in some way. I’m nearly in despair.

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As in any ideal system of slavery. (The ideal slave is the one who says I'm not a slave) You are given emotional or physical benefits, and you succumb to this, enter this game. (this applies not only to Ethereum but also a lot of things that surround us).

And while you are being enjoyed, you are proud to say that you are a master of the game, that you control the game, even achieved something in this game.

But in the end, all the money goes to the one who gives out the cards, and gets a commission (the usual poker scheme). Think about how you can send "Your Tokens" without using ether. Can ICO project get out of this game and say - I'm real owner of the tokens that I released. The most important questions that you should ask yourself - what kind of freedom it limits? And who benefits from these limitations?

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there are multiple plattforms like waves today available,

i mentioned that problem already a long while ago

its all about those speculants those so called ether speculants that bet on the success of the icos, that they reach a withespread audience,

in order to then benefit form their transaction costs

but i like your initiative, you should better write "ether speculants go home"

or else you will get a difficult economy, cause you either get, cryptocurrencies, paper certificates, or you get metal coins again,

there is no way around money

my reccomendation therefore use the waves plattform or the neo platfform

my c-pro token is multiplattform based, and therefore i try to achieve independency from those speculants

check out my website

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I myself do not agree with many things and do not want to feel like a slave to ICO companies. But I do not see how this can be fought.

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March 06, 2018, 07:10:48 AM
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I am confused, why are you dragging his father into it? It's almost like your asking his daddy to give him a smack because he won't talk to you.
It's clear he is not going to respond to you and neither is his father (in any constructive manner), your going to have to try another method.

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