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Question: The United States is:
Still the American Dream - 28 (11.9%)
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December 14, 2013, 12:24:25 AM
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December 14, 2013, 12:41:59 AM
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What is this, stormfront?

Oh wait, just racist muslim sympathizers. Do they even know how their 'points' apply a hundred times more to themselves than others?

LOL @ all the weak willed fools getting swept up in contrarian bandwagon.


On the other hand, I am not too sure about the 'fat' thing - as far as statistics go, Mexico is the most obese country in the world. Also, I have seen some of the fittest and strongest people around the world in US, versus the 'fat' people. I believe that over representation of 'fat' issue is due to the fact that many obese people in America still behave and strut around as if they have no problems, thus being more visible, while in other nations people feel the need to be more withdrawn due to their physical problem, at least not being quite so social and forward with themselves due to pressure. I have personally seen some of the fattest people on earth in east asia as well as latin america and even africa.

Lastly, I really hope no one's going to try and look up BMI to see who's the 'fattest' since BMI does not distinguish between types of bodily composition in their study. If going by BMI, I would be considered obese, despite being 6 foot 5, 260 pounds and very little of it fat. So would the whole line of new england patriots and most of the heavy weight boxer types.

 

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December 14, 2013, 12:47:47 AM
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The tendency around Europe is for decentralized government, my country, Portugal, is not a good example, but in the Nordic countries many of the important decisions are being made at the local level.

BS. Europe is being federalized now with the debt situation. Watch the outcome and learn (well you never learn over there and now the Americans are falling into the same socialist sh8t hole).

Btw, nasty nasty Hitler like outcomes coming throughout the western world, including of course the USA.

$150 trillion debt (not including $quadrillion derivatives and another $quadrillion of unfunded social promises) is coming due western world.

Checkmate. Lights out.

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I am beginning to think China is a country with more democracy then the US. I can't wait when China is the most powerful country in the world, and knock US off the rank. Roll Eyes

You may get your wish, but the recent experience of countries like the Philippines gives a preview of how much fun it is to deal with an ascendant China.

There is no doubt that US power is eroding and the NSA spying is horrible but there is still a lot of idealism in the US and its problems are on the front page for everyone to see.  Many other countries try and hide and cover up their problems often attempting to deflect blame somehow to the US.  

Actually according to the history lesson, China explore the entire world in 1405. They were peaceful and just do trading and visiting different countries. http://www.economist.com/node/5381851

Whereas, when the Westerner explore around the world in 1492. They went around conquering different countries and killing other native people to steal from them.

The reason is geographical. China can't project power over the Himalayan mountain range. This also isolated them from being attacked. Thus they turned to domestic and SE Asia domination.

But now China seeks a blue water navy. They are not there yet though. Long ways away.

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I find it mildly disgusting that they can blow a shitload on their military, but have thousands of homeless people and people dying because they can't afford ludicrously expensive healthcare.

I find it interesting that Europeans think they live in a nirvana and they think the only problems in the world are not enough social system and too much adventurous militarism.

Just wait until the debt bomb unloads on you guys over there (social systems are not free!) and we will see Europe return to its world war history again. At least you stopped making children (except France perhaps a few others), so most of you are too old to fight. So perhaps we will just see Europe put to sleep.

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December 14, 2013, 02:38:58 AM
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Tut tuting Europeans eager to assuage their broken pride by bitching at US is really just digging their own graves. We both have much to deal with in this world other than quarreling between those who are practically cousins in terms of culture, demographics (get rid of those muslims first), etc.

I hope europeans are smart enough to know they should not be alienating US purely out of some need to compensate for their lack of strength on world stage.
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December 14, 2013, 02:56:10 AM
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I am beginning to think China is a country with more democracy then the US. I can't wait when China is the most powerful country in the world, and knock US off the rank. Roll Eyes

You may get your wish, but the recent experience of countries like the Philippines gives a preview of how much fun it is to deal with an ascendant China.

There is no doubt that US power is eroding and the NSA spying is horrible but there is still a lot of idealism in the US and its problems are on the front page for everyone to see.  Many other countries try and hide and cover up their problems often attempting to deflect blame somehow to the US.   

Actually according to the history lesson, China explore the entire world in 1405. They were peaceful and just do trading and visiting different countries. http://www.economist.com/node/5381851

Whereas, when the Westerner explore around the world in 1492. They went around conquering different countries and killing other native people to steal from them.

The reason is geographical. China can't project power over the Himalayan mountain range. This also isolated them from being attacked. Thus they turned to domestic and SE Asia domination.

But now China seeks a blue water navy. They are not there yet though. Long ways away.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA someone's never even heard of Leif Errikson and viking trans-atlantic voyages. Europeans knew about the new world before chinese even thought of sailing to middle east.

Never mind the drivel spouted by Chiasson and Menzies is a thoroughly discredited and that 'map' has been widely critiqued as a fake. Great wishful thinking, but at best that map would be a copy of earlier european and middle eastern discoveries.
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December 14, 2013, 03:08:10 AM
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I am beginning to think China is a country with more democracy then the US. I can't wait when China is the most powerful country in the world, and knock US off the rank. Roll Eyes

You may get your wish, but the recent experience of countries like the Philippines gives a preview of how much fun it is to deal with an ascendant China.

There is no doubt that US power is eroding and the NSA spying is horrible but there is still a lot of idealism in the US and its problems are on the front page for everyone to see.  Many other countries try and hide and cover up their problems often attempting to deflect blame somehow to the US.   

Actually according to the history lesson, China explore the entire world in 1405. They were peaceful and just do trading and visiting different countries. http://www.economist.com/node/5381851

Whereas, when the Westerner explore around the world in 1492. They went around conquering different countries and killing other native people to steal from them.

The reason is geographical. China can't project power over the Himalayan mountain range. This also isolated them from being attacked. Thus they turned to domestic and SE Asia domination.

But now China seeks a blue water navy. They are not there yet though. Long ways away.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA someone's never even heard of Leif Errikson and viking trans-atlantic voyages. Europeans knew about the new world before chinese even thought of sailing to middle east.

Never mind the drivel spouted by Chiasson and Menzies is a thoroughly discredited and that 'map' has been widely critiqued as a fake. Great wishful thinking, but at best that map would be a copy of earlier european and middle eastern discoveries.

Another idiot who conflates orthogonal issues.

Exploring is not the same as supply lines to project military power far away.

Learn what "blue water navy" means.

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December 14, 2013, 03:36:43 AM
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Another idiot who conflates orthogonal issues.
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"Conflates orthogonal" = an highly smartiferous verbification.
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December 14, 2013, 04:51:37 AM
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Another idiot who conflates orthogonal issues.
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"Conflates orthogonal" = an highly smartiferous verbification.

It is also one of those unusual de-anonymizing idioms, there aren't many of us that would string those together.

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December 14, 2013, 07:33:58 AM
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... pretending the people of a region are to be held accountable for the actions of those governments who have power over them as if those people were personally involved in creating the worst parts of the history of the region in which they reside?
This is not particular of the U.S., but people of a region ARE to be held accountable for their governments actions, at least when dealing with 3rd countries.

Sure, except that is true exactly nowhere on the planet.
The only time it is true is immediately after a popular revolution before the power vacuum fills with the next wave of corruption.
One thing that you will learn as you travel the planet is that individuals typically have very little to do with what their political overlords are doing "in their name".


For what it's worth, I LOL'd at the "elect Ron Paul" stuff.  Even if he had support of 60% of US he would lose every national election without support of the banks or the military.  Politics doesn't work the way you think it does.  If you paid much attention to the last election, even the Republicans shunned RP.  When he would win or even come in second on a Republican primary race, he would not be even listed in the Republican news. 

The Liberals laughed at it too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B0QPcoTZg8
It was something the alternative media from both sides could bond over...
http://www.infowars.com/jon-stewart-on-the-media-ignoring-ron-aul/

Ron Paul is one of the better proofs of the point I was making as to why you can not really hold any individual folks in a region responsible for what their government is doing.  You would be more likely to find a Ron Paul supporter than an Obama supporter in very large areas.  One is a political nobody, and the other is the leader of the free world.  You have the American ochlocratic democracy to thank for that, and mobs are far too easy to manipulate.  The best you can hope for is a sane and rational local politician. 
And I mentioned Ron Paul as a sort of "passing by" example.

Let me try another one: we can say that it was Bush and Cheney that campaigned for the invasion of Iraq. However the media set up polls in their websites to check if Americans were pro or against invasion. The results in 2003 were clear: the people was pro-invasion. How are these not co-responsible for the chaos in Iraq afterwards?

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December 14, 2013, 07:41:48 AM
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Tut tuting Europeans eager to assuage their broken pride by bitching at US is really just digging their own graves. We both have much to deal with in this world other than quarreling between those who are practically cousins in terms of culture, demographics (get rid of those muslims first), etc.

I hope europeans are smart enough to know they should not be alienating US purely out of some need to compensate for their lack of strength on world stage.
Some (hopefully not most) European men are eunuchs that run away scared if they see a pack of muzzies harassing a girl in their countries. I'm very well aware that women would be safer if guys from Texas or Alabama abounded in some places of Europe  Tongue

The "lack of strenght on the world stage" is something that doesn't concern most, people despise colonialism now. Not everyone wants to be influential in the Middle East or Asia. HOWEVER everyone wants to be influential inside their own country. Which isn't easy for European countries that are not much more than de-facto vassals of the U.S. (like Germany, U.K. and a few others)

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December 14, 2013, 08:41:02 AM
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Tut tuting Europeans eager to assuage their broken pride by bitching at US is really just digging their own graves. We both have much to deal with in this world other than quarreling between those who are practically cousins in terms of culture, demographics (get rid of those muslims first), etc.

I hope europeans are smart enough to know they should not be alienating US purely out of some need to compensate for their lack of strength on world stage.
Some (hopefully not most) European men are eunuchs that run away scared if they see a pack of muzzies harassing a girl in their countries. I'm very well aware that women would be safer if guys from Texas or Alabama abounded in some places of Europe  Tongue

The "lack of strenght on the world stage" is something that doesn't concern most, people despise colonialism now. Not everyone wants to be influential in the Middle East or Asia. HOWEVER everyone wants to be influential inside their own country. Which isn't easy for European countries that are not much more than de-facto vassals of the U.S. (like Germany, U.K. and a few others)

There's a reason why muslim cunts don't dare try to pull this shit in US, more like trying to play second fiddle to blacks and mexicans when it comes to trying to act 'gangsta' as they call it these days (Frank Lucas and other old school gangsters might have a thing to two to say about that). We term them wannabe-negroes.

US isn't the one trying to influence european domestic policies. In fact, europe could take a page or two out of how many people in US system and public go after such ethnic-minded cunts in full force.

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I'd believe those men would run away scared if they see a pack of skinheads harassing a girl, instead of 'muzzies'. Anyway, you hear about gang raping mostly from India.

FIY I'm not a Muslim fan. I have an equal amount of hate towards islam, judaism and christianity. It's just in my part of Europe we are not affected by muslims in any way, I see a hijab maybe once in two years. But in turn jews are everywhere, one hand washing the other. School I went to as a kid was disbanded recently, to lessen the school amount in the capital. AND AFTER THAT THEY RENOVATED THE GODDAMN BUILDING, AND MADE IT INTO A JEWISH SCHOOL. With candelabras and everything. And mostly for taxpayers money. I mean WTF?

And while in my country jews are kinda hated, in USA they are embraced by everyone. Especially in media. Talk about zionists and conspiracies. And the lobbying, ugh. Pack of rabbis in full 'makeup' begging google or facebook, or even a white house for handouts.

Another funny thing. With the recent discovery of 'lost nazi' art. Our local jews are trying to prove one of the painting belongs to them.



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December 14, 2013, 10:28:26 AM
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What is this, stormfront?

Oh wait, just racist muslim sympathizers. Do they even know how their 'points' apply a hundred times more to themselves than others?

LOL @ all the weak willed fools getting swept up in contrarian bandwagon.


On the other hand, I am not too sure about the 'fat' thing - as far as statistics go, Mexico is the most obese country in the world. Also, I have seen some of the fittest and strongest people around the world in US, versus the 'fat' people. I believe that over representation of 'fat' issue is due to the fact that many obese people in America still behave and strut around as if they have no problems, thus being more visible, while in other nations people feel the need to be more withdrawn due to their physical problem, at least not being quite so social and forward with themselves due to pressure. I have personally seen some of the fattest people on earth in east asia as well as latin america and even africa.

Lastly, I really hope no one's going to try and look up BMI to see who's the 'fattest' since BMI does not distinguish between types of bodily composition in their study. If going by BMI, I would be considered obese, despite being 6 foot 5, 260 pounds and very little of it fat. So would the whole line of new england patriots and most of the heavy weight boxer types.

 



that's rascist and so on you're rascist and you have no right to point fingers to someone as you're doing it too!

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December 14, 2013, 10:46:01 AM
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What is this, stormfront?

Oh wait, just racist muslim sympathizers. Do they even know how their 'points' apply a hundred times more to themselves than others?

LOL @ all the weak willed fools getting swept up in contrarian bandwagon.


On the other hand, I am not too sure about the 'fat' thing - as far as statistics go, Mexico is the most obese country in the world. Also, I have seen some of the fittest and strongest people around the world in US, versus the 'fat' people. I believe that over representation of 'fat' issue is due to the fact that many obese people in America still behave and strut around as if they have no problems, thus being more visible, while in other nations people feel the need to be more withdrawn due to their physical problem, at least not being quite so social and forward with themselves due to pressure. I have personally seen some of the fattest people on earth in east asia as well as latin america and even africa.

Lastly, I really hope no one's going to try and look up BMI to see who's the 'fattest' since BMI does not distinguish between types of bodily composition in their study. If going by BMI, I would be considered obese, despite being 6 foot 5, 260 pounds and very little of it fat. So would the whole line of new england patriots and most of the heavy weight boxer types.

 



that's rascist and so on you're rascist and you have no right to point fingers to someone as you're doing it too!

If a certain group decides to loudly proclaim their 'identity' than proceeds to act in accordance with 'their people' than they are asking to be classified under the same banner. You don't get to avoid responsibilities and group guilt when you want to enjoy group identity. Especially when they are begging to be identified as part of a 'special group'. Rights and responsibilities go hand in hand.

Don't like it? Don't make excuses for your 'people' (just a bunch of reactionary fools who thinks having that kind of 'identity' makes them 'unique' LOL).

Muslims are racists. Just ask any migrant workers in the middle east. Or the blacker libyan citizens who fled after 2011. Hell the migrant workers are supposed to be majority muslims too, but get garbage treatment. Besides, arabs have a long history of slave trade even before muslim times, having the honor of being the first mass enslavers of africans (or nubians as they called them).

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December 14, 2013, 10:53:02 AM
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Let me try another one: we can say that it was Bush and Cheney that campaigned for the invasion of Iraq. However the media set up polls in their websites to check if Americans were pro or against invasion. The results in 2003 were clear: the people was pro-invasion. How are these not co-responsible for the chaos in Iraq afterwards?

The media is paid by government to support government agendas.  Who knows what those polls might have said if they were instead done scientifically.

Another example that supports my point.

Do you imagine that your neighbors are somehow more immune to being manipulated by your media and government authorities?
Did any of them go to state schools, or work for government?
If these authorities were telling them to be afraid on every news outlet and showing smoking skyscrapers continuously that they are somehow different and less susceptible to such influence over years of repetition?

Later polls, after the media barrage subsided show folks thought it was a mistake.

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December 14, 2013, 02:29:20 PM
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What is this, stormfront?

Oh wait, just racist muslim sympathizers. Do they even know how their 'points' apply a hundred times more to themselves than others?

LOL @ all the weak willed fools getting swept up in contrarian bandwagon.


On the other hand, I am not too sure about the 'fat' thing - as far as statistics go, Mexico is the most obese country in the world. Also, I have seen some of the fittest and strongest people around the world in US, versus the 'fat' people. I believe that over representation of 'fat' issue is due to the fact that many obese people in America still behave and strut around as if they have no problems, thus being more visible, while in other nations people feel the need to be more withdrawn due to their physical problem, at least not being quite so social and forward with themselves due to pressure. I have personally seen some of the fattest people on earth in east asia as well as latin america and even africa.

Lastly, I really hope no one's going to try and look up BMI to see who's the 'fattest' since BMI does not distinguish between types of bodily composition in their study. If going by BMI, I would be considered obese, despite being 6 foot 5, 260 pounds and very little of it fat. So would the whole line of new england patriots and most of the heavy weight boxer types.

 



that's rascist and so on you're rascist and you have no right to point fingers to someone as you're doing it too!

If a certain group decides to loudly proclaim their 'identity' than proceeds to act in accordance with 'their people' than they are asking to be classified under the same banner. You don't get to avoid responsibilities and group guilt when you want to enjoy group identity. Especially when they are begging to be identified as part of a 'special group'. Rights and responsibilities go hand in hand.

Don't like it? Don't make excuses for your 'people' (just a bunch of reactionary fools who thinks having that kind of 'identity' makes them 'unique' LOL).

Muslims are racists. Just ask any migrant workers in the middle east. Or the blacker libyan citizens who fled after 2011. Hell the migrant workers are supposed to be majority muslims too, but get garbage treatment. Besides, arabs have a long history of slave trade even before muslim times, having the honor of being the first mass enslavers of africans (or nubians as they called them).



Racism is generally defined as actions, practices, or beliefs that consider the human species to be divided into races with shared traits, abilities, or qualities, such as personality, intellect, morality, or other cultural behavioral characteristics

As you are giving the same characteristic to all people in the same religion you're by all means racist!
you're a lot worse than this people because they know who they are and you act like someone else altough you're a lot worse then them, you hate the muslims don't you? Smiley

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December 14, 2013, 02:31:21 PM
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Back in time US could be an American Dream, but now it's just a place, otherwise i still can't get in there without visa ;s

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