Indentifying the DPR 1670XBT transaction

[jl2012]

http://nation.time.com/2013/10/02/alleged-silk-road-proprietor-ross-william-ulbricht-arrested-3-6m-in-bitcoin-seized/

In the p.23, it mentions that DPR paid 1670XBT on 31 March 2012 for the blackmailer's head.

Could anyone try to identify it on the blockchain?

[crazy_rabbit]

They probably used the mixer service, so it could be hard to identify.

[jl2012]

They probably used the mixer service, so it could be hard to identify.

"In DPR's message confirming the deal, DPR included a transaction record reflecting the transfer of 1,670 Bitcoins to a certain Bitcoin address."

It might be simpler than you think

[coretechs]

This may be it -

http://blockexplorer.com/block/0000000000000156fad2c13be218e4c1f2c5101177717deab97859e08c0f8644

http://blockexplorer.com/tx/4a0a5b6036c0da84c3eb9c2a884b6ad72416d1758470e19fb1d2fa2a145b5601

[jl2012]

This may be it -

http://blockexplorer.com/block/0000000000000156fad2c13be218e4c1f2c5101177717deab97859e08c0f8644

http://blockexplorer.com/tx/4a0a5b6036c0da84c3eb9c2a884b6ad72416d1758470e19fb1d2fa2a145b5601

Yes! I just find the same with google!

[crazy_rabbit]

This may be it -

http://blockexplorer.com/block/0000000000000156fad2c13be218e4c1f2c5101177717deab97859e08c0f8644

http://blockexplorer.com/tx/4a0a5b6036c0da84c3eb9c2a884b6ad72416d1758470e19fb1d2fa2a145b5601

Yes! I just find the same with google!

If he really did have someone killed using bitcoin I hope they throw the book at him. Vile creature.

[jl2012]

"............Canadian law enforcement authorities ... have no record of there being any Canadian resident with the name DPR passed to redandwhite as the target of the solicited murder-for-hire. Nor do they have any record of a homicide occurring in White Rock, British Columbia on or about March 31, 2013."

So DPR did pay 1670XBT but no homicide happened. Most probably, he was scammed  

"FriendlyChemist" (the blackmailer) and "redandwhite" (the supplier) are most probably the same person. After all, there was no evidence showing they were different persons, and DPR was naive enough to trust redandwhite and sent him 150000USD in bitcoin.

[Luckybit]

"............Canadian law enforcement authorities ... have no record of there being any Canadian resident with the name DPR passed to redandwhite as the target of the solicited murder-for-hire. Nor do they have any record of a homicide occurring in White Rock, British Columbia on or about March 31, 2013."

So DPR did pay 1670XBT but no homicide happened. Most probably, he was scammed  

"FriendlyChemist" (the blackmailer) and "redandwhite" (the supplier) are most probably the same person. After all, there was no evidence showing they were different persons, and DPR was naive enough to trust redandwhite and sent him 150000USD in bitcoin.

Looks like extortion. Also it's possible that both FriendlyChemist and redandwhite were confidential informents working on behalf of the FBI to take him down.

You know, one guy making threats and trying to blackmail you to get the money out of you and another guy, a hitman who conveniently appears and offers to help take care of your problem?

If the FBI does it then it's an investigation and if the mafia does it then it's a protection racket. This doesn't excuse what he did, but it should put things in a context.

[FrictionlessCoin]

"............Canadian law enforcement authorities ... have no record of there being any Canadian resident with the name DPR passed to redandwhite as the target of the solicited murder-for-hire. Nor do they have any record of a homicide occurring in White Rock, British Columbia on or about March 31, 2013."

So DPR did pay 1670XBT but no homicide happened. Most probably, he was scammed  

"FriendlyChemist" (the blackmailer) and "redandwhite" (the supplier) are most probably the same person. After all, there was no evidence showing they were different persons, and DPR was naive enough to trust redandwhite and sent him 150000USD in bitcoin.

Looks like extortion. Also it's possible that both FriendlyChemist and redandwhite were confidential informents working on behalf of the FBI to take him down.

You know, one guy making threats and trying to blackmail you to get the money out of you and another guy, a hitman who conveniently appears and offers to help take care of your problem?

If the FBI does it then it's an investigation and if the mafia does it then it's a protection racket. This doesn't excuse what he did, but it should put things in a context.

Agree.  If his first hit was already a setup, then it is like that this hit was also a setup.  It may explain also how the blackmailer was some how able to hack into the system.   What's also curious is that DPR apparently figured out the identity of the blackmailer.   

[Phinnaeus Gage]

http://blockchain.info/en/tx/1e8026c9d7144dfcdc3e98526f7e74ef174efa830ccb988b5c2ae2b961666efb

[j05h]

DPR must have known that the blackmailer and hitman were the same person.  He paid him 150,000 to go away.

[BitTrade]

DPR must have known that the blackmailer and hitman were the same person.  He paid him 150,000 to go away.

Wow.. hadn't thought of that angle.. very plausible.

[IveBeenBit]

DPR must have known that the blackmailer and hitman were the same person.  He paid him 150,000 to go away.

I thought the same thing. He not only got the blackmailer to go away, but he sent a message that "If you fuck with me, I am willing to pay $150,000 to have you killed." If he didn't do that, what's to stop the blackmailer from coming back a couple months later demanding more money?

This way, the blackmailer walks away with $150k in bitcoin and thinks, "Wow, I got lucky to outsmart DPR this time. Next time, he may hire someone real to kill me."

I think DPR was smart enough to know he was being scammed, and also smart enough to manipulate the scammer to receive this message.

[AC130AS]

The guy was a dumbass.

[repentance]

It may explain also how the blackmailer was some how able to hack into the system.   What's also curious is that DPR apparently figured out the identity of the blackmailer.   

Re-read the complaint.  It doesn't say that "FriendlyChemist" claimed to have hacked into the SR system.  It says that he claimed to have hacked the computer of a large SR vendor.

While it's tempting to believe that FriendlyChemist and redandwhite were under cover agents, there is no reason to not disclose that in the complaint if that's the case - indeed doing so would actually bolster the strength of the complaint.

If you've read the Silk Road forums, you'll know that it's like any other community, users come to regard people as "friends" relatively quickly and they seek to establish closer ties with the more powerful figures within that community - whether DPR, the admins, or the major vendors.  DPR himself courted adoration and approval and he engaged in PM conversations with various SR users using the SR system.  It's highly probable that some SR users made their real life identities known to DPR.