I think there needs to be a serious discussion regarding aTriz's very shady business dealings:
Vouch of fake gambling "script":
aTriz
claimed to have received a "vouch" copy of a gambling "
script" that was being sold for over $10,000 by someone who has recently been exposed as a scammer:
Was given a vouch copy of the method by op and played around with in with funds from the faucet.
With the 10 minutes I used this script with, I profited and worked perfectly. Would recommend.
I made an extremely good ROI, and I’m sure that others who buy the method will experience similar results. Thanks, Alia!
archive of the above quote that is unedited as of prior to when the person who was selling this script was exposed as being a scammer.
Claims by the seller included "
you cannot go wrong with it" and "
is also able to indicate, in a way, the coming games' outcomes based on immediately preceding games", among
others, which were debunked prior to aTriz posting his "vouch" (same reference).
I would speculate that either aTriz did not receive the script being sold in the referenced thread, and/or aTriz did not perform sufficient due diligence prior to posting his 'vouch' and/or received undisclosed consideration in exchange for the 'vouch' and/or there were other conflicts of interests in giving this 'vouch' and/or was actively conspiring with the seller of this script in order to defraud potential buyers
Entering into shady 'custom' signature campaign deals:
aTriz
confirmed the terms of a signature deal with a person, who at the time has claimed to be a forum member for less than 30 days, that was for a duration of 3 years. The terms of this deal were that this person was going to receive payment in the amount of roughly $300 per month in exchange for '30-100' posts per month. The lower bound of the cost per post of the agreement was above the upper bound of signature campaign rates currently available to
legendary members currently on an
effective per post basis.
aTriz entered into this agreement with the same person he 'vouched' for above.
I believe a
best case scenario is that aTriz is a very poor businessman and poor negotiator, although I believe it is very well possible that something much more shady was going on in relation to this deal.
Managing advertising campaign of probable ICO scam:
aTriz
managed the advertising campaign of what I believe to be a shady ICO, called
Ice Rock Mining, and given gives this as a
reference of his past work.
If you look at their
website, you will see they are promising that investors in their ICO will earn more than 400% return on their investment. Although this is unlikely, it is possible those behind the ICO are very good managers, and are very generous. However if you look at various archives, you will
see the calculator currently lists potential returns over 3 years (which is also displayed on the live version of the website), however the FAQ section of an
archive from October 2017 talks about
two year contracts. The pre-sale of the ICO apparently started September 25, 2017.
To me, this is something that was fairly clearly a scam for a number of reasons, however aTriz nevertheless managed the advertising campaign of this ICO, yet aTriz did nothing to call this out to warn potential investors. I would speculate that aTriz either was personally involved in this likely scam, and/or deliberately turned a blind eye to this probable scam because of this business relationship and/or attempted to legitimize this probable scam as a result of his business relationship (and of course the payments he was receiving).
Based on the above, I believe it is likely that '
trust' from aTriz is likely for sale, either directly via trust ratings, or from other actions that appear to make other entities look more trustworthy than they are.
Self moderated thread. I will be aggressive in deleting posts that are either off topic, or have the effect of (starting to) derail this thread. I will allow both alia and Ice Rock mining to each make a single post in this post (which I will quote and post in the OP) refuting the allegations above, however will otherwise be disallowed from posting in this thread.
