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March 06, 2018, 01:50:41 PM
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I think the stock market is in a downtrend so it takes time to recover and in the next few years it's time for cryptocurrency to grow and become a big financial market. world. Many traditional investors have turned to investing in cryptocurrency and that is a good sign for the whole market.

I will continuing invest in both the markets. As one is regulated and other is not. So I need to have a balanced portfolio if something goes wrong with unregulated one that I should not suffer or become helpless due to my mistake. Diversification is the key and also keep some amount as spare as in trading it is a risky job so should have some extra money to help yourself during that slack period.

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March 06, 2018, 02:03:58 PM
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I think the stock market is in a downtrend so it takes time to recover and in the next few years it's time for cryptocurrency to grow and become a big financial market. world. Many traditional investors have turned to investing in cryptocurrency and that is a good sign for the whole market.

I will continuing invest in both the markets. As one is regulated and other is not. So I need to have a balanced portfolio if something goes wrong with unregulated one that I should not suffer or become helpless due to my mistake. Diversification is the key and also keep some amount as spare as in trading it is a risky job so should have some extra money to help yourself during that slack period.


Diversification is key.
Geographical mix (stocks from many continents)
Asset mix (bonds stocks cryptos)
Currency mix (usd eur)

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March 08, 2018, 10:09:14 AM
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I think the stock market is in a downtrend so it takes time to recover and in the next few years it's time for cryptocurrency to grow and become a big financial market. world. Many traditional investors have turned to investing in cryptocurrency and that is a good sign for the whole market.
Who would not turn to it? The fact that it is a new market of great opportunities, the fact that it has a lot of benefit for the early adopters all make it what it is right now and at the end of the day would make it beneficial to everyone presently in the system. Stocks for me is already getting outdate and crypto is the new global stock and I would rather stick with cryptocurrency than stocks at this moment as the future is here already.

One important issue is that most of them know the truth but they are not just ready to accept it. It is more like a denial phase for them and not wanting to believe in their head that a lot of things are changing and the evolution of currency is here. We really do not need their belief, they will soon hit their grave very soon, so whether they are ready to accept the truth or not, at the end of the day, they will get to know the truth.

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March 09, 2018, 07:14:18 AM
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After spending many years as a financial advisor, I find the ravings of many "experts" today as banal. There are those that speak of coins as a "Ponzi" scheme and denounce the validity of the new form of economy. There are also some that want this world to go back to the 50s, and with it all the junk that we have been working to rid ourselves of.
Looking at the new order, I can see many similarities to the monetary base that we are used to. Our economic base is not tied to any metals or valuables, but believed to be of value and tradeable as though it were tangible treasure. We have not backed our currency for many years (since 1971) but our currency has been the standard of the world.
Why then are these "old-timers" so afraid of crypto? Because they are afraid of change. The same reason that we still have racism in this country and others, the same reason that we still have wars. The world has changed, and not everyone is comfortable with that. But to not change with it is socialogical death.
Yes, it is prone to swings in value. Anything that has potential is. But we need to have a universally accepted basis so that sane commerce can prevail. It is the future, and there will always be something that is new. But by understanding it and working within it, one can determine whether it is something to stick with or ignore. I choose to stick.
Stocks have been more reliable than any other type of investment you’re going to find these days. That’s why people find it difficult to accept Bitcoin, because they are believing that Bitcoin will likely be a ponzi scheme and is being manipulated a lot by the people behind. As for me, between Stocks and Cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin, I wouldn’t think twice to choose Bitcoin. The kind of profit that comes from Bitcoin is enough for anyone that understands it to go for it.
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March 09, 2018, 07:49:44 AM
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After spending many years as a financial advisor, I find the ravings of many "experts" today as banal. There are those that speak of coins as a "Ponzi" scheme and denounce the validity of the new form of economy. There are also some that want this world to go back to the 50s, and with it all the junk that we have been working to rid ourselves of.
Looking at the new order, I can see many similarities to the monetary base that we are used to. Our economic base is not tied to any metals or valuables, but believed to be of value and tradeable as though it were tangible treasure. We have not backed our currency for many years (since 1971) but our currency has been the standard of the world.
Why then are these "old-timers" so afraid of crypto? Because they are afraid of change. The same reason that we still have racism in this country and others, the same reason that we still have wars. The world has changed, and not everyone is comfortable with that. But to not change with it is socialogical death.
Yes, it is prone to swings in value. Anything that has potential is. But we need to have a universally accepted basis so that sane commerce can prevail. It is the future, and there will always be something that is new. But by understanding it and working within it, one can determine whether it is something to stick with or ignore. I choose to stick.


In my opinion, both Cypto and Stocks are good but they have diferrences and really depends on your stratgey and risk apettite.

Crypto is very risky that you don't have proof that you owned investments and it's just a matter of wallets. The increase and decrease of prices are really depends on the demands of people around the world. Though this is our future investments that we need to learn it and live with it. The risk is very high and the return might be higher as well only if the market is good globally.

On the other hand, Stocks is very secured investments that you will be at ease that you really owned shares of stock in that company you have invested in. However, the return of investments is low but the risk is low as well and it is only just a matter of to be patient and wait for the perfect timing for your investments to grow.

Both are good and it is better to invest in both because putting all eggs in one basket is very risky so we need to be resilient at anytime. Goodluck!
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March 09, 2018, 06:37:45 PM
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They are afraid of new, unknown, unexplored. Resistant to change, as bitmover says.
But there's nothing what can stop the blockchain and cryptocurrency revolution.
It is normal to always face some level of resistances when there is a huge disruption that has to do with the financial sector where a lot of fraudulent activities have always been going on. They can keep resisting but one thing I know is that a time will come that they will realize how much of their resistance has been totally pushed down the drain. Some are already beginning to accept the fact that it is a war they cannot win, but for those who are not, i guess they will have to learn the hard way in the long run.
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March 09, 2018, 07:55:00 PM
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I think the stock market is in a downtrend so it takes time to recover and in the next few years it's time for cryptocurrency to grow and become a big financial market. world. Many traditional investors have turned to investing in cryptocurrency and that is a good sign for the whole market.

Even if some stock investors have turned to the crypto market demand for the stock is still persistent because of the government support.
Stocks divided into parts on the terms of the country you live in are still profitably if invested properly in but the centralization of the stock system is pulling back investors to the crypto market in which the decentralization rules over everything else.
Anonymity is the key to a high demand of the cryptocurrencies.
I once virtually traded in the stock market but the possibility of the cryptomarket is far better.
Everything can happen in the cryptomarket and the stock market is adjusted to bring profit to the big players.

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March 09, 2018, 08:05:56 PM
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I can see similarities between the stock market and cryptocurrency prices in that supply and demand are factors in the price as well as news and speculation. Another similarity is that charting fundamentals seem to work for both.

We also see many people trading cryptocurrencies without understanding what Bitcoin is and without having done research on the projects behind these coins. After all, cryptocurrencies are more than just coins to be traded. They are projects with a purpose.
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March 09, 2018, 08:14:41 PM
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I do not see the similarity of cryptocurrencies with the stock market. It is closer to the Forex currency market. But the stock market has a direct competitor. It's ICO. Therefore, we see that the governments of different countries have concentrated their efforts to combat the ICO. I am sure that this struggle is lobbied by big players in the stock market.
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March 09, 2018, 08:59:16 PM
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After spending many years as a financial advisor, I find the ravings of many "experts" today as banal. There are those that speak of coins as a "Ponzi" scheme and denounce the validity of the new form of economy. There are also some that want this world to go back to the 50s, and with it all the junk that we have been working to rid ourselves of.
Looking at the new order, I can see many similarities to the monetary base that we are used to. Our economic base is not tied to any metals or valuables, but believed to be of value and tradeable as though it were tangible treasure. We have not backed our currency for many years (since 1971) but our currency has been the standard of the world.
Why then are these "old-timers" so afraid of crypto? Because they are afraid of change. The same reason that we still have racism in this country and others, the same reason that we still have wars. The world has changed, and not everyone is comfortable with that. But to not change with it is socialogical death.
Yes, it is prone to swings in value. Anything that has potential is. But we need to have a universally accepted basis so that sane commerce can prevail. It is the future, and there will always be something that is new. But by understanding it and working within it, one can determine whether it is something to stick with or ignore. I choose to stick.

Could you please be more specific about whom you refer to as "old-timers"? Somehow, I'm inclined to believe that you mean Warren Buffett since he perfectly fits the category of an "old-timer" by any metric I can think of. But he explained his stance pretty explicitly and it hardly has anything to do with fear of change or anything of that nature. You can discard his words and opinion as inconsequential, of course, but personally, I wouldn't. In essence, his point comes down to claiming that Bitcoin has no value. Indeed, fiat has no value either but it is used in commerce unlike crypto. And until this changes, his words will continue to hold.
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March 09, 2018, 09:23:24 PM
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I do not see the similarity of cryptocurrencies with the stock market. It is closer to the Forex currency market. But the stock market has a direct competitor. It's ICO. Therefore, we see that the governments of different countries have concentrated their efforts to combat the ICO. I am sure that this struggle is lobbied by big players in the stock market.


Well, i could say that each of them have defferent forms of assets if we are comparing to market. Cryptos market is a very risky procedure in a forms of marketing because they are volatile in demand and supply. While in real market stock can be seen of project in advance because of economic trends is being studied and already find ways if incase any circumstances will occur, we can easily get funds in other forms of agency.

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March 09, 2018, 09:26:11 PM
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I also choose to "stick with bitcoin" and the volatility will not stop us not to invest in crypto currencies because I believe it is the future and most of us that believe in it now are going to make millions from it in future. Bitcoin represent the future and we have to buy into our future by buying into bitcoin now.
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After spending many years as a financial advisor, I find the ravings of many "experts" today as banal. There are those that speak of coins as a "Ponzi" scheme and denounce the validity of the new form of economy. There are also some that want this world to go back to the 50s, and with it all the junk that we have been working to rid ourselves of.
Looking at the new order, I can see many similarities to the monetary base that we are used to. Our economic base is not tied to any metals or valuables, but believed to be of value and tradeable as though it were tangible treasure. We have not backed our currency for many years (since 1971) but our currency has been the standard of the world.
Why then are these "old-timers" so afraid of crypto? Because they are afraid of change. The same reason that we still have racism in this country and others, the same reason that we still have wars. The world has changed, and not everyone is comfortable with that. But to not change with it is socialogical death.
Yes, it is prone to swings in value. Anything that has potential is. But we need to have a universally accepted basis so that sane commerce can prevail. It is the future, and there will always be something that is new. But by understanding it and working within it, one can determine whether it is something to stick with or ignore. I choose to stick.

Anything that comes with change will face serious antagonistic position more than what we can imagine. There was a time I read about when the invention of cars started happening, the rulers of the time believed in trains and because of their selfish interest tries to frustrate it by coming up with several campaigns about how prone it is to the accident and that alone was one of the reasons why before anybody would be issued a driving license, he must prove that he can hire someone else to always go in front and tell people to leave the way but today we are talking of driverless cars and trucks.

The same thing in the crypto today because people are scared of the change and unfortunately those people are the ones that are at the helms of affair. To then force them to the point where they won't have any choice than to fall in line, we have to ensure that things are done in the right way.
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March 10, 2018, 03:00:04 AM
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It takes time to restore the trend of the current stock market is again down, so that traditional investors turn to crypto, many people who invest their money into crypto because it is more profitable for now. I think if this moment is a moment where the price of Bitcoin or altcoin to stable even soaring high.
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Why then are these "old-timers" so afraid of crypto? Because they are afraid of change.

Yes, it is prone to swings in value. Anything that has potential is.

Sorry I cut the other parts because this is are the sentences that I just love and also to save some space.  Grin
The change which they are scared of. Tradition. They are glued to tradition that made them so weak to step up and embrace the change that will happen.
Damn, risk it. I dont care. They want to be safe as always, stay to the old flow because it worked. But for how long? Some countries are already on their way to make the bigger change while other stays with the traditional way.
We can still preserve it while being in a new world.

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March 10, 2018, 04:46:43 AM
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I think the stock market is in a downtrend so it takes time to recover and in the next few years it's time for cryptocurrency to grow and become a big financial market. world. Many traditional investors have turned to investing in cryptocurrency and that is a good sign for the whole market.

Yes, I think in the near future cryptos will become a big financial market and also institutional investors will jump in. That could be the time when we will see new all-time high in all the major cryptocurrencies...
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March 10, 2018, 05:13:37 AM
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I like crypto because most are start up and it has more chance to grow than in stock.
We have limited supply as well and we are not yet discovered by a big number of people, with increasing demand and acceptance
of crypto, we will go to the moon.

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March 10, 2018, 06:21:20 AM
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After spending many years as a financial advisor, I find the ravings of many "experts" today as banal. There are those that speak of coins as a "Ponzi" scheme and denounce the validity of the new form of economy. There are also some that want this world to go back to the 50s, and with it all the junk that we have been working to rid ourselves of.
Looking at the new order, I can see many similarities to the monetary base that we are used to. Our economic base is not tied to any metals or valuables, but believed to be of value and tradeable as though it were tangible treasure. We have not backed our currency for many years (since 1971) but our currency has been the standard of the world.
Why then are these "old-timers" so afraid of crypto? Because they are afraid of change. The same reason that we still have racism in this country and others, the same reason that we still have wars. The world has changed, and not everyone is comfortable with that. But to not change with it is socialogical death.
Yes, it is prone to swings in value. Anything that has potential is. But we need to have a universally accepted basis so that sane commerce can prevail. It is the future, and there will always be something that is new. But by understanding it and working within it, one can determine whether it is something to stick with or ignore. I choose to stick.
Stocks has been around before cryptocurrencies, so I don’t think cryptocurrencies will be able to compete with them. Another thing for sure is that stocks attracts more investors than Bitcoin and I believe that lots of profits comes from it. Even in trading, people trade a lot of stocks thancryptos. I’m a fan ofcryptos,cause it favors me a lot than stocks.
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March 10, 2018, 07:23:08 AM
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After spending many years as a financial advisor, I find the ravings of many "experts" today as banal. There are those that speak of coins as a "Ponzi" scheme and denounce the validity of the new form of economy. There are also some that want this world to go back to the 50s, and with it all the junk that we have been working to rid ourselves of.
Looking at the new order, I can see many similarities to the monetary base that we are used to. Our economic base is not tied to any metals or valuables, but believed to be of value and tradeable as though it were tangible treasure. We have not backed our currency for many years (since 1971) but our currency has been the standard of the world.
Why then are these "old-timers" so afraid of crypto? Because they are afraid of change. The same reason that we still have racism in this country and others, the same reason that we still have wars. The world has changed, and not everyone is comfortable with that. But to not change with it is socialogical death.
Yes, it is prone to swings in value. Anything that has potential is. But we need to have a universally accepted basis so that sane commerce can prevail. It is the future, and there will always be something that is new. But by understanding it and working within it, one can determine whether it is something to stick with or ignore. I choose to stick.

Millennial's (or generation Y, depending on the country, people from 30-40 years) are not afraid to crypto. There are many studies in the press showing that they prefer crypto to stocks.

These "old-timers" you are talking about are mostly those that still resist to internet. People that find to hard to read messages on whatsapp and take pictures using a smartphone. That see with disregard applications like booking.com and airbnb

There is not wrong with this "old-timers" generation. They are resisting to change because most of them didn't take internet and technology serious enough, and don't get it.

The thing is that own the money, they own the system.
But soon they will understand. Crypto is getting bigger and bigger.
I would not say they are resisting to change because of that, though some of them may, but for the lousy ones at the top who have been in the finance sector, the only reason they are resisting change is because of their greedy reasons and they want things to be the way they have always been while they keep monopolizing and manipulating the system for their own gains and ridding the poor of their benefits. Unfortunately for them, their time has ended.
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March 10, 2018, 07:43:11 AM
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After spending many years as a financial advisor, I find the ravings of many "experts" today as banal. There are those that speak of coins as a "Ponzi" scheme and denounce the validity of the new form of economy. There are also some that want this world to go back to the 50s, and with it all the junk that we have been working to rid ourselves of.
Looking at the new order, I can see many similarities to the monetary base that we are used to. Our economic base is not tied to any metals or valuables, but believed to be of value and tradeable as though it were tangible treasure. We have not backed our currency for many years (since 1971) but our currency has been the standard of the world.
Why then are these "old-timers" so afraid of crypto? Because they are afraid of change. The same reason that we still have racism in this country and others, the same reason that we still have wars. The world has changed, and not everyone is comfortable with that. But to not change with it is socialogical death.
Yes, it is prone to swings in value. Anything that has potential is. But we need to have a universally accepted basis so that sane commerce can prevail. It is the future, and there will always be something that is new. But by understanding it and working within it, one can determine whether it is something to stick with or ignore. I choose to stick.

Sometimes we heard news that bitcoin fall more than 7% called ponzi scheme become burst but when stock market crash more than 10% on single day they call nothing. Bitcoin or cryptocurrency market is better than stock market because ledger is transparant and not using leverage that cause buble
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