Cobra-bitcoin compromised. Bitcoin.org is not safe bitcoin site anymore

[DooMAD]

and is getting worse. a new tweet today

ASICBOOST patent drama is another great reason to change the PoW to something simpler, we can’t have Bitcoin’s security dependent on patent restrictions and alliances. Anyone should be able to create the most efficient ASIC without being encumbered by patents whatsoever.

https://twitter.com/CobraBitcoin/status/971365176774680576

this account is very clear that is a Jihan Wu propaganda tool. Why Theymos has not say anything about this situation? Cobra must step down from bitcoin.org or removed.

Or maybe we could just try being adults about it and not be completely intolerant to different opinions.  Seems much easier than making a big deal out of it, not to mention drawing more attention and publicity to the opinions you appear to be offended by.  You're free to disagree, by all means, but you absolutely don't get to dictate what happens to stuff that other people own.  That's kind of an important principle here in crypto.  If it doesn't belong to you, it's none of your business.

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[chek2fire]

and is getting worse. a new tweet today

ASICBOOST patent drama is another great reason to change the PoW to something simpler, we can’t have Bitcoin’s security dependent on patent restrictions and alliances. Anyone should be able to create the most efficient ASIC without being encumbered by patents whatsoever.

https://twitter.com/CobraBitcoin/status/971365176774680576

this account is very clear that is a Jihan Wu propaganda tool. Why Theymos has not say anything about this situation? Cobra must step down from bitcoin.org or removed.

Or maybe we could just try being adults about it and not be completely intolerant to different opinions.  Seems much easier than making a big deal out of it, not to mention drawing more attention and publicity to the opinions you appear to be offended by.  You're free to disagree, by all means, but you absolutely don't get to dictate what happens to stuff that other people own.  That's kind of an important principle here in crypto.  If it doesn't belong to you, it's none of your business.

once again.. Who cares what cobra or anyone else believes. He is freely to support what he says. I really dont care. The problem is that the same person and i talk about cobra is the admin of bitcoin.org. Bcash supporters not only support their shitcoin but they have a great interest to  do whatever they can to destroy bitcoin. Who says that in the near future cobra not comprimise bitcoin.org with a malware or start to promote bcash as the "real" bitcoin and promote Craig Wright as the "real" Satoshi?
This is my problem dude. Not his opinion.

[chek2fire]

This is continue to getting better. His new answer to reddit discussion

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/82ofw9/cobrabitcoin_must_step_down_asap_from_bitcoinorg/dvbn3l0/

Bitcoin Cash has its flaws, many of the prominent people in their community are shady and their development process is flawed. But if you ignore all the stupid ways it's marketed, in some ways, it's actually somewhat useful. There was a huge need for some type of blockchain with the particular characteristics of BCH;

yeah until now crypto world has not a tech miracle like bcash and after that he says

Litecoin never really took off in a big way for payments, and LN is many years off from being a reliable way to pay (and comes with its own set of issues which make it less suited for certain types of payments).

this is what says every day Roger Ver, Jihan Wu and Craig Wright. Is liek to copy paste them. Are we sure that the old cobra owner of the account has not sell it? Is very suspicious that cobra-bitcoin get out from silence after so many years and the last 8 months begin to promote all of this.
Even dogecoin has more txs from bcash and every tech guy understand what centralisation will bring node of 20k $ as Craig Wright says.

[gentlemand]

Something fucked up is happening here. A few days ago he was whining about changing the proof of work algorithm to save bitcoin from the miners. Now he's full bcash which is 100% the pet of those evil centralisers.

[DooMAD]

Something fucked up is happening here. A few days ago he was whining about changing the proof of work algorithm to save bitcoin from the miners. Now he's full bcash which is 100% the pet of those evil centralisers.

It makes sense if you consider that a contentious hardfork which could potentially divide the Bitcoin community in half would be incredibly beneficial to BCH, because it would create further confusion about which Bitcoin is the "real" one.  Regardless of what the "noble cause" is purported to be, more disruption and infighting is categorically not the way forward.  I, for one, don't buy this notion that we need to "save Bitcoin from the miners" with the nuclear option of an algorithm change.  It's a pretty flimsy pretense for making an enormous mess and, personally, I don't believe it to be sincere.  

Or maybe we could just try being adults about it and not be completely intolerant to different opinions.  Seems much easier than making a big deal out of it, not to mention drawing more attention and publicity to the opinions you appear to be offended by.  You're free to disagree, by all means, but you absolutely don't get to dictate what happens to stuff that other people own.  That's kind of an important principle here in crypto.  If it doesn't belong to you, it's none of your business.

once again.. Who cares what cobra or anyone else believes. He is freely to support what he says. I really dont care. The problem is that the same person and i talk about cobra is the admin of bitcoin.org. Bcash supporters not only support their shitcoin but they have a great interest to  do whatever they can to destroy bitcoin. Who says that in the near future cobra not comprimise bitcoin.org with a malware or start to promote bcash as the "real" bitcoin and promote Craig Wright as the "real" Satoshi?
This is my problem dude. Not his opinion.

It doesn't matter what you think the problem is.  Nor does it matter how dangerous he might be in your paranoid fanboy delusions.  It wouldn't even matter if he was under the direct influence of whatever boogeyman you're soiling yourself over at any given point in time.  That's all completely 100% irrelevant.  The point, which you seem utterly incapable of grasping, is you are in literally no position to say he can't own something that already belongs to him.

If you can't respect the basic concept of ownership, what are you even doing here?

You said:

Cobra must step down from bitcoin.org

No.  False.  Cobra "must" do nothing of the sort.  Get over yourself.  

You also said:

Imo cobra-bitcoin must remove asap from bitcoin.org or step down. Then he can continue to promote whatever he like as bcash, dollar, banks, IMF or whatever he like. Who cares.

No.  False again.  Having partial ownership of a domain name does not preclude Cobra from discussing topics you personally find undesirable.  Again, get over yourself.

Aside from that, I like how anyone who gives the slightest hint of legitimacy to BCH is automatically assumed to be the equivalent of a cyber-terrorist who is being mind controlled by Jihan or Roger.  It's good that you're being reasonable about these things and not resorting to grossly exaggerated caricatures.    

How do fruitloops like you even function on a day-to-day basis?  I honestly do wonder sometimes.

[chek2fire]

Something fucked up is happening here. A few days ago he was whining about changing the proof of work algorithm to save bitcoin from the miners. Now he's full bcash which is 100% the pet of those evil centralisers.

It makes sense if you consider that a contentious hardfork which could potentially divide the Bitcoin community in half would be incredibly beneficial to BCH, because it would create further confusion about which Bitcoin is the "real" one.  Regardless of what the "noble cause" is purported to be, more disruption and infighting is categorically not the way forward.  I, for one, don't buy this notion that we need to "save Bitcoin from the miners" with the nuclear option of an algorithm change.  It's a pretty flimsy pretense for making an enormous mess and, personally, I don't believe it to be sincere.  

At best, Cobra simply isn't particularly knowledgeable about all this and they were the "silent partner" for all these years for a pretty good reason.  At worst, there's some sort of attempted manipulation going on that we shouldn't fall for.

Or maybe we could just try being adults about it and not be completely intolerant to different opinions.  Seems much easier than making a big deal out of it, not to mention drawing more attention and publicity to the opinions you appear to be offended by.  You're free to disagree, by all means, but you absolutely don't get to dictate what happens to stuff that other people own.  That's kind of an important principle here in crypto.  If it doesn't belong to you, it's none of your business.

once again.. Who cares what cobra or anyone else believes. He is freely to support what he says. I really dont care. The problem is that the same person and i talk about cobra is the admin of bitcoin.org. Bcash supporters not only support their shitcoin but they have a great interest to  do whatever they can to destroy bitcoin. Who says that in the near future cobra not comprimise bitcoin.org with a malware or start to promote bcash as the "real" bitcoin and promote Craig Wright as the "real" Satoshi?
This is my problem dude. Not his opinion.

It doesn't matter what you think the problem is.  Nor does it matter how dangerous he might be in your paranoid fanboy delusions.  It wouldn't even matter if he was under the direct influence of whatever boogeyman you're soiling yourself over at any given point in time.  That's all completely 100% irrelevant.  The point, which you seem utterly incapable of grasping, is you are in literally no position to say he can't own something that already belongs to him.

If you can't respect the basic concept of ownership, what are you even doing here?

You said:

Cobra must step down from bitcoin.org

No.  False.  Cobra "must" do nothing of the sort.  Get over yourself.  

You also said:

Imo cobra-bitcoin must remove asap from bitcoin.org or step down. Then he can continue to promote whatever he like as bcash, dollar, banks, IMF or whatever he like. Who cares.

No.  False again.  Having partial ownership of a domain name does not preclude Cobra from discussing topics you personally find undesirable.  Again, get over yourself.

Aside from that, I like how anyone who gives the slightest hint of legitimacy to BCH is automatically assumed to be the equivalent of a cyber-terrorist who is being mind controlled by Jihan or Roger.  It's good that you're being reasonable about these things and not resorting to grossly exaggerated caricatures.    

How do fruitloops like you even function on a day-to-day basis?  I honestly do wonder sometimes.

no offense but i wonder the same for you with the kumbaya view of things. You mean that we must be happy that roger ver, craig wright and now cobra attack bitcoin and promote bcash because it will made it "stronger" ?
ok....
is like someone to slap your face and not react because you expect to get stronger

[franky1]

makes me laugh

person doesnt follow the blockstream roadmap like a bible.. so chek2fire says take away control of website and give it solely to blockstream fanboys... all because of a twitter account.
where said twitter account might be a spoof anyway

thats like saying you want a divorse because you seen a fresh pair of boxers in your wifes bed.. before even asking who's boxers they were.. maybe she likes wearing boxers herself but doesnt want to wear yours because she knows where they have been.. maybe she bought you a fresh pair because she knows where your old ones have been.

but hey deep down people soon realise what you really wanted was any excuse to not have to share the bed with anyone that opposes your opinion
..
chek2fire bitcoin WAS suppose to be decentralised. but instead of having the whole x1 x2 as a single network consensus..
(like unlimited, xt, classic was 2014-2016)
 blockstreamers baracaded themselves into a cabin and then got bloq to help push x2 into altcoin land so that blockstreams x1 got activated even though x1 was only getting 30% of the community node vote prior to their game

by saying anything not core is an attack is the simple admission that you believe core own bitcoin. and thus you admit that bitcoin is not decentralised.

..

while i do love seeing blockstream fanboys blaming others to distract the attention away from how bitcoin is losing its ethos because of blockstream fanboyerism.. all they are really doing is just pushing people away unless they are part of a roadmapped central agenda

what should have happened is that if blockstream didnt get the 2015 segwit vote and then didnt get the consensus vote. blockstream(core) should have gave up and listened to the community by trying something else. but instead they banished the opposition into altcoin land to 'rig' the vote in blockstreams roadmaps favour

but hey now they can push as many soft forks as they like without a vote. so thats why some are saying full nodes are no longer required. because its all gone centralised..

but hey. as long as you can make people look in the other direction while bitcoins utility diminishes further.. you will be happy right

[DooMAD]

no offense but i wonder the same for you with the kumbaya view of things. You mean that we must be happy that roger ver, craig wright and now cobra attack bitcoin and promote bcash because it will made it "stronger" ?
ok....
is like someone to slap your face and not react because you expect to get stronger

You don't have to like it.  But at the same time, you have to recognise that calling upon someone in a position of authority to take action and forcibly remove someone you perceive as a threat is wholly antithetical to the ideals you supposedly subscribe to as a Bitcoin user.  As is trying to orchestrate a witch-hunt complete with pitchforks and burning torches to take their ownership away by coercion.  That's not how we do shit here.  You can't "win" by abandoning the fundamental principles that guide us.  

Maybe just use your words and make a compelling case as to why Cobra is wrong to say what they're saying.  Then allow people to decide for themselves which one the correct view is.  You know, like a civilised human being.  Is it really that difficult?  

All this bandwagon/populist crap is just stirring up unnecessary drama.  If anything, you're hurting your own cause by provoking extreme reactions to what are actually pretty trivial issues.  If people like you were more tolerant of differing views, there would be less division in the community overall and there may not even have been a split that people would feel the urge or need to defend against.  

Or, to put it more succinctly, you have to accept responsibility for your own involvement in how BCH came to exist in the first place.

Think on that.

[shield132]

has not any sense in 5 months to publicly say that Bcash fork is an attack to bitcoin, then to promote a pow change to get the power from chinese miners and after that to say that you believe that ln will fail and the only solution is bcash...
And why bcash and not litecoin or any other shitcoin out there? What has bcash that has not any other shitcoin? Roger Ver, Craig Wright and Jihan Wu? And why bitcoin will fail if ln fail?
Whatever he says this guy has not any sense. Cobra-bitcoin was dark and anonymous for years. Finally before 8 months he start to tweet and to be active to social media.
I believe that his account is compromised and that the real cobra is pwnd or arrest or hacked or whatever.
I really dont care what Cobra or anyone believes. There are plenty of ppl that believes to shitcoins.
The real problem here is that this guy is an admin to bitcoin.org. If he is compromised then there is a great risk to this site.

If he owns bitcoin.org it will be curious if he will ever redirect bitcoin.org to bcash.org or something similar, after that it will make a huge sense. Btw I agree to you, his account is compromised, bitmain wants to make bitcoin cash more wide and popular among people than bitcoin.

[xhoondilan]

Well for me as long as the campaign is not a scam im ok with that, and bitcointalk dont have any fees or charge when you make an account so you should not be worried in loss of something but still bitcointalk.org is very helpful for me i hope that news is just not true...

[franky1]

bitmain wants to make bitcoin cash more wide and popular among people than bitcoin.

the only time you should worry about bitcoin cash getting more wide spread, is not about twitter accounts or website links.. but when real world merchants stop accepting bitcoin and choose a different crypto.

and then instead of crying its a conspiracy/attack.. ask yourself what has bitcoin actually done to keep decentralisation and community openness alive.
so far since 2014 (the advent of core/blockstream) all i have seen is bitcoins ethos and utility slowly diminish

but hey.. go back a couple decades and go point fingers blaming a conspiracy that myspace failed because facebook spoofed some twitter account. instead of realising that myspace stagnated and failed to listen to its community, and thus the community decided something else was needed.

personally no one can pigeion hole me into any "camp" because my philosophy is decentralisation. not band camp preference.. and its more than likely that the merchant adopting crypto will be something more like litecoin or even a yet to be conceived coin, rather than any bitcoin fork, if blockstream continue with their roadmap

[chek2fire]

no offense but i wonder the same for you with the kumbaya view of things. You mean that we must be happy that roger ver, craig wright and now cobra attack bitcoin and promote bcash because it will made it "stronger" ?
ok....
is like someone to slap your face and not react because you expect to get stronger

You don't have to like it.  But at the same time, you have to recognise that calling upon someone in a position of authority to take action and forcibly remove someone you perceive as a threat is wholly antithetical to the ideals you supposedly subscribe to as a Bitcoin user.  As is trying to orchestrate a witch-hunt complete with pitchforks and burning torches to take their ownership away by coercion.  That's not how we do shit here.  You can't "win" by abandoning the fundamental principles that guide us.  

Maybe just use your words and make a compelling case as to why Cobra is wrong to say what they're saying.  Then allow people to decide for themselves which one the correct view is.  You know, like a civilised human being.  Is it really that difficult?  

All this bandwagon/populist crap is just stirring up unnecessary drama.  If anything, you're hurting your own cause by provoking extreme reactions to what are actually pretty trivial issues.  If people like you were more tolerant of differing views, there would be less division in the community overall and there may not even have been a split that people would feel the urge or need to defend against.  

Or, to put it more succinctly, you have to accept responsibility for your own involvement in how BCH came to exist in the first place.

Think on that.

for what i understand you propose for all of us to have done a logical step down and accept the follow term to prevent the bcash fork.

1. That Craig Wright is Satoshi and that his proposal of big blocks, 20k nodes are the true satoshi vision
2. That Roger Ver is the most brilliant tech guy to bitcoin ecosystem and everything he says is very logical in tech terms
3. To accept the blackmail from Jihan Wu and the situation that miners has the most power to bitcoin ecosystem to cancel segwit activation for months and never UASF happens
4. To accept that the real rulers of Bitcoin ecosystem is miners and big companies and never fight back for segwit2x
5. To accept that every crap opinion has much more value that whet bitcoin engineers says.

and finally to accept now that Cobra, a silent account for years that get active the last months, is not compromised even when he promote things that has not sense.
No dude. Bitcoin ecosystem was not work like this and was not survive so many years with hippies and flowers.

[franky1]

for what i understand you propose for all of us to have done a logical step down and accept the follow term to prevent the bcash fork.

1. That Craig Wright is Satoshi and that his proposal of big blocks, 20k nodes are the true satoshi vision
2. That Roger Ver is the most brilliant tech guy to bitcoin ecosystem and everything he says is very logical in tech terms
3. To accept the blackmail from Jihan Wu and the situation that miners has the most power to bitcoin ecosystem to cancel segwit activation for months and never UASF happens
4. To accept that the real rulers of Bitcoin ecosystem is miners and big companies and never fight back for segwit2x
5. To accept that every crap opinion has much more value that whet bitcoin engineers says.

and finally to accept now that Cobra, a silent account for years that get active the last months, is not compromised even when he promote things that has not sense.
No dude. Bitcoin ecosystem was not work like this and was not survive so many years with hippies and flowers.

chek2fire
take off your blockstream dev defense hat.. and instead of the band camp/defense attack rhetoric... argue about BITCOINS ethos and utility.
all people are trying to hint to you is that you care more about the blockstream devs having ultimate decision powers and no one else should

take a step back from the keyboard. make a cup of coffee and think long and hard about WHO/WHAT you are defending

[chek2fire]

for what i understand you propose for all of us to have done a logical step down and accept the follow term to prevent the bcash fork.

1. That Craig Wright is Satoshi and that his proposal of big blocks, 20k nodes are the true satoshi vision
2. That Roger Ver is the most brilliant tech guy to bitcoin ecosystem and everything he says is very logical in tech terms
3. To accept the blackmail from Jihan Wu and the situation that miners has the most power to bitcoin ecosystem to cancel segwit activation for months and never UASF happens
4. To accept that the real rulers of Bitcoin ecosystem is miners and big companies and never fight back for segwit2x
5. To accept that every crap opinion has much more value that whet bitcoin engineers says.

and finally to accept now that Cobra, a silent account for years that get active the last months, is not compromised even when he promote things that has not sense.
No dude. Bitcoin ecosystem was not work like this and was not survive so many years with hippies and flowers.

chek2fire
take off your blockstream dev defense hat.. and instead of the band camp/defense attack rhetoric... argue about BITCOINS ethos and utility.
all people are trying to hint to you is that you care more about the blockstream devs having ultimate decision powers and no one else should

take a step back from the keyboard. make a cup of coffee and think long and hard about WHO/WHAT you are defending

i have already here a cup of coffee what is your point? And i never see as my friend scammers like CraigWright, Jihan Wu or Roger Ver.

[franky1]

for what i understand you propose for all of us to have done a logical step down and accept the follow term to prevent the bcash fork.

1. That Craig Wright is Satoshi and that his proposal of big blocks, 20k nodes are the true satoshi vision
2. That Roger Ver is the most brilliant tech guy to bitcoin ecosystem and everything he says is very logical in tech terms
3. To accept the blackmail from Jihan Wu and the situation that miners has the most power to bitcoin ecosystem to cancel segwit activation for months and never UASF happens
4. To accept that the real rulers of Bitcoin ecosystem is miners and big companies and never fight back for segwit2x
5. To accept that every crap opinion has much more value that whet bitcoin engineers says.

and finally to accept now that Cobra, a silent account for years that get active the last months, is not compromised even when he promote things that has not sense.
No dude. Bitcoin ecosystem was not work like this and was not survive so many years with hippies and flowers.

chek2fire
take off your blockstream dev defense hat.. and instead of the band camp/defense attack rhetoric... argue about BITCOINS ethos and utility.
all people are trying to hint to you is that you care more about the blockstream devs having ultimate decision powers and no one else should

take a step back from the keyboard. make a cup of coffee and think long and hard about WHO/WHAT you are defending

i have already here a cup of coffee what is your point? And i never see as my friend scammers like CraigWright, Jihan Wu or Roger Ver.

craig wright is a scammer yes...
the whole jihan/ver drama is just a soap opera for reddit..
the cobra twitter is drama..

when it comes to what really matters to bitcoin, is what core/blockstream have done to diminish bitcoins ethos and utility..
if you want to continue the personality/band camp drama.. you will get your entertainment on reddit.

now sit back have a long think about what you are trying to argue about and realise where your arguments are failing.

[chek2fire]

this is what Maxwell says about this cobra compromised acccount

I get the impression that cobra sold his credentials last year: He put up some sketchy warnings about the binaries on bitcoin.org then went quiet for a long time.

When he came back he started posting some really over the top rbtc conspiracy theory nonsense on reddit. When people moved to take action about it he suddenly said "oh my account was hacked" and dropped it. But the account wasn't use for the kind of petty vandalism that you normally see when a hacked account can't otherwise be used... Since then he's been slowly cranking up the psycho behavior, and right now he seems not far from the sudden behavior of the 'hacked' account.

Given that I'm not surprised to see the BCH pumping, and of course ignoring that whatever "better for payments" argument you can currently make for BCH could better be applied to Litecoin (which also has a lower interblock interval, AND segwit) and yet litecoin has mostly gone nowhere.

FWIW, no one wants a POW change more than Bitmain. They crank out chips privately for even obscure POWs then dump them on the public once they've reached diminishing returns on their own production. With sha256d they're competing against a huge installed base. Moreover, Bitmain has gone around unethically and unlawfully claiming patents on basic mining techniques like series wiring the chips to reduce convert costs which were in use prior to Bitmain and where any competitive mining device for any POW would adopt the same techniques.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/82ofw9/cobrabitcoin_must_step_down_asap_from_bitcoinorg/dvcgmsb/

[DooMAD]

You don't have to like it.  But at the same time, you have to recognise that calling upon someone in a position of authority to take action and forcibly remove someone you perceive as a threat is wholly antithetical to the ideals you supposedly subscribe to as a Bitcoin user.  As is trying to orchestrate a witch-hunt complete with pitchforks and burning torches to take their ownership away by coercion.  That's not how we do shit here.  You can't "win" by abandoning the fundamental principles that guide us.  

Maybe just use your words and make a compelling case as to why Cobra is wrong to say what they're saying.  Then allow people to decide for themselves which one the correct view is.  You know, like a civilised human being.  Is it really that difficult?  

All this bandwagon/populist crap is just stirring up unnecessary drama.  If anything, you're hurting your own cause by provoking extreme reactions to what are actually pretty trivial issues.  If people like you were more tolerant of differing views, there would be less division in the community overall and there may not even have been a split that people would feel the urge or need to defend against.  

Or, to put it more succinctly, you have to accept responsibility for your own involvement in how BCH came to exist in the first place.

Think on that.

for what i understand you propose for all of us to have done a logical step down and accept the follow term to prevent the bcash fork.

1. That Craig Wright is Satoshi and that his proposal of big blocks, 20k nodes are the true satoshi vision
2. That Roger Ver is the most brilliant tech guy to bitcoin ecosystem and everything he says is very logical in tech terms
3. To accept the blackmail from Jihan Wu and the situation that miners has the most power to bitcoin ecosystem to cancel segwit activation for months and never UASF happens
4. To accept that the real rulers of Bitcoin ecosystem is miners and big companies and never fight back for segwit2x
5. To accept that every crap opinion has much more value that whet bitcoin engineers says.

If I could facepalm any harder I'd likely knock myself unconscious.  No.  Funnily enough, none of that mindless drivel is what I'm proposing.

What I'm proposing is that the more you obsess about Wright/Ver/Wu/etc the more power you give them.

These personalities aren't important.  If you had even a fraction of sense you'd realise people only think they're important because you and all the other paranoid nut-jobs on this forum literally can't stop talking about them.  You're like their greatest PR consultant.  Keep giving them all that free publicity and making people think they're a big deal.  Or, better yet:

Shut.  Up.  About.  The.  Goddamn.  Boogeymen.  You.  Utter.  Cretin.

You and those like you continually reinforce and perpetuate the rift you helped create by focusing on egos, agendas and other such pathetic vanities that are in absolutely no way useful to the goal of further advancing a revolutionary technology.  People like you are directly culpable for creating an environment where this "Us vs Them" tribalist caveman mentality makes it impossible for anything but further splits and fractures.  Literally everything you are is far more damaging to Bitcoin than your chosen devils could ever be.

It's like you're trying to make a bad situation worse.  Kindly do Bitcoin a favour and just stop existing until you have a clue in your head.  Please. 

[chek2fire]

You don't have to like it.  But at the same time, you have to recognise that calling upon someone in a position of authority to take action and forcibly remove someone you perceive as a threat is wholly antithetical to the ideals you supposedly subscribe to as a Bitcoin user.  As is trying to orchestrate a witch-hunt complete with pitchforks and burning torches to take their ownership away by coercion.  That's not how we do shit here.  You can't "win" by abandoning the fundamental principles that guide us.  

Maybe just use your words and make a compelling case as to why Cobra is wrong to say what they're saying.  Then allow people to decide for themselves which one the correct view is.  You know, like a civilised human being.  Is it really that difficult?  

All this bandwagon/populist crap is just stirring up unnecessary drama.  If anything, you're hurting your own cause by provoking extreme reactions to what are actually pretty trivial issues.  If people like you were more tolerant of differing views, there would be less division in the community overall and there may not even have been a split that people would feel the urge or need to defend against.  

Or, to put it more succinctly, you have to accept responsibility for your own involvement in how BCH came to exist in the first place.

Think on that.

for what i understand you propose for all of us to have done a logical step down and accept the follow term to prevent the bcash fork.

1. That Craig Wright is Satoshi and that his proposal of big blocks, 20k nodes are the true satoshi vision
2. That Roger Ver is the most brilliant tech guy to bitcoin ecosystem and everything he says is very logical in tech terms
3. To accept the blackmail from Jihan Wu and the situation that miners has the most power to bitcoin ecosystem to cancel segwit activation for months and never UASF happens
4. To accept that the real rulers of Bitcoin ecosystem is miners and big companies and never fight back for segwit2x
5. To accept that every crap opinion has much more value that whet bitcoin engineers says.

If I could facepalm any harder I'd likely knock myself unconscious.  No.  Funnily enough, none of that mindless drivel is what I'm proposing.

What I'm proposing is that the more you obsess about Wright/Ver/Wu/etc the more power you give them.

These personalities aren't important.  If you had even a fraction of sense you'd realise people only think they're important because you and all the other paranoid nut-jobs on this forum literally can't stop talking about them.  You're like their greatest PR consultant.  Keep giving them all that free publicity and making people think they're a big deal.  Or, better yet:

Shut.  Up.  About.  The.  Goddamn.  Boogeymen.  You.  Utter.  Cretin.

You and those like you continually reinforce and perpetuate the rift you helped create by focusing on egos, agendas and other such pathetic vanities that are in absolutely no way useful to the goal of further advancing a revolutionary technology.  People like you are directly culpable for creating an environment where this "Us vs Them" tribalist caveman mentality makes it impossible for anything but further splits and fractures.  Literally everything you are is far more damaging to Bitcoin than your chosen devils could ever be.

It's like you're trying to make a bad situation worse.  Kindly do Bitcoin a favour and just stop existing until you have a clue in your head.  Please. 

lol

[Wind_FURY]

and is getting worse. a new tweet today

ASICBOOST patent drama is another great reason to change the PoW to something simpler, we can’t have Bitcoin’s security dependent on patent restrictions and alliances. Anyone should be able to create the most efficient ASIC without being encumbered by patents whatsoever.

https://twitter.com/CobraBitcoin/status/971365176774680576

this account is very clear that is a Jihan Wu propaganda tool. Why Theymos has not say anything about this situation? Cobra must step down from bitcoin.org or removed.

A lot of popular Bitcoiners are calling him a "snake" now. This will not be good for the community if that Twitter account is really controlled by the real Cobra.

Well maybe it is. More drama! YES! That's what I'm here for. Hahaha.

Has someone sent a PM to Theymos yet, or are you all afraid to? Because I would be. Hahaha.

this is what Maxwell says about this cobra compromised acccount

I get the impression that cobra sold his credentials last year: He put up some sketchy warnings about the binaries on bitcoin.org then went quiet for a long time.

When he came back he started posting some really over the top rbtc conspiracy theory nonsense on reddit. When people moved to take action about it he suddenly said "oh my account was hacked" and dropped it. But the account wasn't use for the kind of petty vandalism that you normally see when a hacked account can't otherwise be used... Since then he's been slowly cranking up the psycho behavior, and right now he seems not far from the sudden behavior of the 'hacked' account.

Given that I'm not surprised to see the BCH pumping, and of course ignoring that whatever "better for payments" argument you can currently make for BCH could better be applied to Litecoin (which also has a lower interblock interval, AND segwit) and yet litecoin has mostly gone nowhere.

FWIW, no one wants a POW change more than Bitmain. They crank out chips privately for even obscure POWs then dump them on the public once they've reached diminishing returns on their own production. With sha256d they're competing against a huge installed base. Moreover, Bitmain has gone around unethically and unlawfully claiming patents on basic mining techniques like series wiring the chips to reduce convert costs which were in use prior to Bitmain and where any competitive mining device for any POW would adopt the same techniques.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/82ofw9/cobrabitcoin_must_step_down_asap_from_bitcoinorg/dvcgmsb/

The plot thickens. I blame the CIA. Hahaha.

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we have and more....

Sometimes people think through things and change their mind, it’s shocking I know. At first I was hateful of Bitcoin Cash, but then realised that it’s not so bad as a niche tool for payments, similar to LN.

https://twitter.com/CobraBitcoin/status/971561261661028352

any news from Theymos? I think anyone must avoid to use bitcoinl.org until the situation to shuttle down. Is not safe to use and especially to download bitcoin binaries from a site that the admin is an account that hacked and compromised.