jermwerty (OP)
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October 09, 2013, 10:58:58 AM |
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So an upgrade module is 3.8BTC, or a 4 module unit is 15.
Wow. So B3 will never make ROI, and being a loyal Avalon customer seems to have no reward.
I would think 50-75% off the current price advertised price would be nice... though even getting another one free wouldn't be enough to save B3 customers.
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jermwerty (OP)
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October 09, 2013, 04:56:12 PM Last edit: October 09, 2013, 05:22:34 PM by jermwerty |
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Well it was a serious question. At least ASICMiner gave previous buyers coupons. So far there IS no special deal for previous Avalon customers. The original price of B3 was based on a month-long ROI, and then was delivered months late thus only partial ROI can be achieved. Yifu should run his calculator and see what scenario at least would allow B3 owners to be close to "break even" and then offer that deal. Maybe a 60Ghash mini unit for 3BTC? Anything helps! Look I know Yifu reads these forums, and he has performed his magic before who knows maybe rectifying some wrongs will bring back the chi balance he needs ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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October 09, 2013, 05:27:35 PM |
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Well it was a serious question. At least ASICMiner gave previous buyers coupons. So far there IS no special deal for previous Avalon customers. The original price of B3 was based on a month-long ROI, and then was delivered months late thus only partial ROI can be achieved. Yifu should run his calculator and see what scenario at least would allow B3 owners to be close to "break even" and then offer that deal. Maybe a 60Ghash mini unit for 3BTC? Anything helps! Look I know Yifu reads these forums, and he has performed his magic before who knows maybe rectifying some wrongs will bring back the chi balance he needs ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) correct, yifu should be thinking of ways to compensate his old customers who are pissed off instead of trying to price out more of his units. douche move
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October 09, 2013, 05:36:12 PM |
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50% roi on Batch #3. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Trade-ins, ripped off about 18-20BTC. Hopefully, Yifu sends me btc for the trade-ins loss.
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October 09, 2013, 05:46:09 PM |
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Well it was a serious question. At least ASICMiner gave previous buyers coupons. So far there IS no special deal for previous Avalon customers. The original price of B3 was based on a month-long ROI, and then was delivered months late thus only partial ROI can be achieved. Yifu should run his calculator and see what scenario at least would allow B3 owners to be close to "break even" and then offer that deal. Maybe a 60Ghash mini unit for 3BTC? Anything helps! Look I know Yifu reads these forums, and he has performed his magic before who knows maybe rectifying some wrongs will bring back the chi balance he needs ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) correct, yifu should be thinking of ways to compensate his old customers who are pissed off instead of trying to price out more of his units. douche move +1
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October 10, 2013, 07:38:29 AM |
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There is certainly 0 motivation on his part to do more than what is absolutely necessary at this point. We basically had to drag refunds for chips out of him and still we were ripped off basically he sold the chips back door and used our funds to pay for it. We gave him 80,000 USD interest free loans on each 10K chip batch bought. Keep pushing him guys you might still be able to get something out of him but to be honest it is doubtful.
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rammy2k2
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October 10, 2013, 08:22:07 AM |
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yifu dont care abt u ! move on , he got you money, he has others on target now
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pajak666
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October 10, 2013, 11:36:05 AM |
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Ripped for 57 btc by now ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) Grats yifu, you stole lot of people money with that delay
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October 10, 2013, 02:05:00 PM |
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go hug your mother!
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jermwerty (OP)
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October 10, 2013, 05:42:23 PM |
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There is certainly 0 motivation on his part to do more than what is absolutely necessary at this point. We basically had to drag refunds for chips out of him and still we were ripped off basically he sold the chips back door and used our funds to pay for it
Well the whole delayed shipping thing from the beginning was a BS ploy to "maintain" early investor ROI but its hard to say how much Yifu actually controlled that. But hey it kept GPU people in the game a bit longer, and history is history! I just think he lost control of what was really happening in China. Anyone with an earlier batch order knew right away the chip "ship" schedule was much too aggressive based on Avalons earlier deliveries. I dunno, something like the half-price mini's was just an shot in the dark if Yifu is still out there listening! A better idea would be a 50% refund on Batch3 but I think giving us 3BTC off of hardware is a more realistic thing to ask for rather than 37-50BTC refunds! I haven't ran the numbers recently, but B3 is definitely a loss and anything to help that situation out of course is much appreciated. And since tickets always get ignored this forum seems to be the only mechanism for such a request.
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October 10, 2013, 05:48:43 PM |
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I just think he lost control...
He did not lose control. He is one smart cat...Better run like a little mouse... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsarahpalma.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F11%2Fscreen-shot-2011-11-28-at-10-06-28-pm.png&t=665&c=quuWif5Wm1IxXA)
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October 10, 2013, 06:03:33 PM |
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Yifu's utter contempt for everyone but himself precludes any deals for any of you.
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October 10, 2013, 06:09:50 PM |
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So an upgrade module is 3.8BTC, or a 4 module unit is 15.
Wow. So B3 will never make ROI, and being a loyal Avalon customer seems to have no reward.
I would think 50-75% off the current price advertised price would be nice... though even getting another one free wouldn't be enough to save B3 customers.
How much was B3? None from B3 shipped?
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October 10, 2013, 07:58:32 PM |
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Best write off your loses and move on. I took hit about 50btc with B3. Sold it. Pity it was 3 month late.
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