Merit Cycling

[camport]

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

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[RamonBTC]

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

I think you have a point, but the rules doesn’t have that limitation. You have the freedom to send śmerits according to your discretion to a constructive post or someone deserve it. If you have found abusive use of this system, it is better to report it in meta as there is an existing thread about that. And just move this post, as it isn’t belong in Marketplace. Merit System discussion is a forum related issue that can be found in Meta Section. Proof is needed in accusing someone a friend of or an alt of anyone to establish this connection.

[mesmerakyns]

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

I think you have a point, but the rules doesn’t have that limitation. You have the freedom to send śmerits according to your discretion to a constructive post or someone deserve it. If you have found abusive use of this system, it is better to report it in meta as there is an existing thread about that. And just move this post, as it isn’t belong in Marketplace. Merit System discussion is a forum related issue that can be found in Meta Section. Proof is needed in accusing someone a friend of or an alt if anyone to establish this connection.

If that is really true... Don't you think that will be difficult to prove? Yeah! You are right about proof instead of throwing wild accusation.

[RamonBTC]

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

I think you have a point, but the rules doesn’t have that limitation. You have the freedom to send śmerits according to your discretion to a constructive post or someone deserve it. If you have found abusive use of this system, it is better to report it in meta as there is an existing thread about that. And just move this post, as it isn’t belong in Marketplace. Merit System discussion is a forum related issue that can be found in Meta Section. Proof is needed in accusing someone a friend of or an alt if anyone to establish this connection.

If that is really true... Don't you think that will be difficult to prove? Yeah! You are right about proof instead of throwing wild accusation.

Proving something needs more than accusing anyone of anything, proper investigations and technical analysis is needed. That’s why, those who are doing such effort has to be applauded because it’s not a easy job and most shocking is DT (default trust) or other members, doing it for free. To help this forum and the members to have a better place to discuss freely without us being annoyed about spammers.

[boranes]

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

There is topic in meta regarding merit cheaters so if you have found users who are exchanging merits you can post it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2896910.0. I can tell you that sending merits to friends, exchanging merits and sending merit to alts is very usual around here but don't worry eventually they will all run out of merits.

[Tyrantt]

If you come across someone exchanging merit, ppint them out. You can see that there are topic poping out from time to time in meta about merit abusers and there's also a whole thread dedicated to the merit abusers reports. It's not that it's not being cracked down , there's just so many people, but still is something to kill some free time. Them russians and turks yo.

[marinomario]

to get merit I think is very difficult, the problem of some people is very stingy to give merit to others. yes it is good to not give merit to just anyone, but a lot of hope to get merit appreciation from my friends bitcoin forum .I have a merit, and I certainly will also give to friends who post quality. I hope we can improve the quality to get merit .

[stomachgrowls]

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

We can make presumption that those acts are shady ones but we cant really conclude yet since we don't have an evidence that they are alts or do belong into one person which means its still valid to have those exchange because there are really some scenarios that community members do really give out merits to those person who do give them merits too.Just like a exchange of gratitude and I know you do feel the same way.Therefore,we cant really accuse someone if we don't have strong evidence among the connection of the two.

[siti25]

I also see the same thing, and this is less effective. or maybe this could be a trap for those who have alt accounts. or share the merit with their friends, but on the other hand it becomes one of the greatest guidelines when so many new accounts are scattered so we can conclude that the quality will be more in priority at this time

[ralle14]

I made a report yesterday on the meta section. I don't have any proof that the accounts are connected but they are surely abusing the system because of the non helpful posts that they merited.

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

There's nothing mentioned on the rules but according to the FAQ thread by hilarious this is frowned upon. Users that are caught abusing the system will get tagged by DT2 members.

[jossiel]

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

Its hard to prove something if you have no basis but you have to tell us who are these people who are abusing the merit system.

And check out those posts that are being merited, you can see if they are only sending merit for nothing or they are sending merit for a reason and those posts must be merited.

Those people that has large amount of sMerits are called merit source.

If you come across someone exchanging merit, ppint them out.

The only thing OP you have to do is this quoted word above^.

[Johnyz]

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

Well merit system are being tackled so many times, and if you have your proof on this better to post it here and let people judge it, cause it might be accidental or they just really deserve to receive the merit.

[camport]

I don't have proof but handing out 7 merits to the same person for comments that deserve none and receiving some back in return is highly suspect. 

[Bitlord88]

First of all I am impressed by those people who came up with that merit increasing move, I wouldn't actually say it is 100% unfair because they actually did the effort and way to fight the more even unfair merit system, you see, for us new members it is actually impossible to rank up given the required merit to progress, in my case I need 90 merits and that is just so impossible, at least a very very very small percentage of members here rarely give merits.
To those who found a strategy to have merits, I'll commend their smart asses though if you look at it on another perspective, yes it is quite a bit not fair given some members here really take their time to earn those diamond merits.

[jossiel]

I don't have proof but handing out 7 merits to the same person for comments that deserve none and receiving some back in return is highly suspect. 

Just post the link and let the higher ones decide for that post if it deserved to received 7 - merit.

There are others who are even sending more than 10 to 50 merits and those are suspicious ones so if you are aware and you highly suspect those people that are giving that amount of sMerit.

Put the link here.

[upsidedown75]

So I was interested in how to obtain merit and so I looked at a few profiles of members with a large amount of merits (250+) and saw that a few seemed to be sending merits backwards and forwards to each other repeatedly. I’m assuming they were either to friends or his alts but surely this is against BCT rules and should be cracked down upon?

I think you have a point, but the rules doesn’t have that limitation. You have the freedom to send śmerits according to your discretion to a constructive post or someone deserve it. If you have found abusive use of this system, it is better to report it in meta as there is an existing thread about that. And just move this post, as it isn’t belong in Marketplace. Merit System discussion is a forum related issue that can be found in Meta Section. Proof is needed in accusing someone a friend of or an alt of anyone to establish this connection.

Yes and you can only complain if you just see some random shit post being given merit and then you can put two and two together to see some alt accounts abusing the merit system which I can see so many people and legends have been doing  already to hunt down such accounts.

As you said though, there is nothing anyone can do, and only if someone finds your post constructive enough or helpful, will they give you merit, so we all have to live with it.

[Donceng]

I also see the same thing, and this is less effective. or maybe this could be a trap for those who have alt accounts. or share the merit with their friends, but on the other hand it becomes one of the greatest guidelines when so many new accounts are scattered so we can conclude that the quality will be more in priority at this time

true to what you say, sometimes not just share the reward with a friend but there is also with greed someone wants to earn a lot, he has made some accounts and the reward is only given to akunya own. is it fair, whereas many beginners need merit, to raise rank, but here in need of quality post to get merit, but most people do not understand what kind of quality postings.

[solarion]

I also see the same thing, and this is less effective. or maybe this could be a trap for those who have alt accounts. or share the merit with their friends, but on the other hand it becomes one of the greatest guidelines when so many new accounts are scattered so we can conclude that the quality will be more in priority at this time

true to what you say, sometimes not just share the reward with a friend but there is also with greed someone wants to earn a lot, he has made some accounts and the reward is only given to akunya own. is it fair, whereas many beginners need merit, to raise rank, but here in need of quality post to get merit, but most people do not understand what kind of quality postings.

Bros, I really understand about the low rank guys worries. They are not go up with the activity alone, after the merit implementation by our moderator theymos. All we need to do is try to gather more merits.
You and op has mentioned some of the people randomly get merits each other. For this issue hilariousandco has opened a thread on meta section and tag the people for abussing merit system. There are many signature spammers found by him and added with negative trust. You no need to worry about this at all now. If you are worry that someone not have potential post to get merit and someone merit each other for spam post. You directly report them. That kind of act are most welcome.

[GoldenLad]

Well, some members do it and they will always give you good reasons why the other person deserves the merit. If truly this is how the merit system will be then its not what we hope for. But the good thing here is that, there is less shit posting in the forum now since the merit system started. OP, if you notice and have a genuine investigation concerning members  whom are sharing merit to each others then simply report to moderators with proofs and references and they will look into it. And I think this should be moved to the Meta section.

[anthinguy21]

I think you should create a topic at Reputation section to report about this case. I can ensure that you'll get merit for your work and all these account will be tagged because of abusing merit system. Although they know but they think they're really lucky and they'll not be founded out. LOL