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March 09, 2018, 02:23:45 PM
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When I first started to invest I used to panic whenever the market dropped by a few dollars, now I've started to enjoy the drops. It provides an ideal opportunity to average down, something I really should have learned about earlier, but glad I did eventually. For those who don't know what 'averaging down' is, it is buying more coins (in this example anyway, but works in exactly the same way with regular stocks) when the price drops to bring down your average buying price, therefore lowering the price at which you can cash in a profit. Using Bitcoin as an example...

1. Bought 1 BTC at $18,000 back in January (aaaarrrgggghh, unlucky...)
2. Price of Bitcoin drops to $9,000 (aaaarrrggghhh, why me...) - your $18,000 of Bitcoin is now only worth $9,000 and you cannot make any profit until it gets back above $18,000 - or can you??
3. Buy 1 BTC at $9,000 (clever, buy the sh*t out of that dip) - your average price paid for 1 BTC is now 'only' $13,500
4. Cash in profit at any point above $13,500 (champagne corks popping)

Obviously there are additional factors to work into this, as it would normally be worth making more than one extra purchase as the price drops to get a better average and to cover any sudden bounces back up, but it definitely makes market drops easier to swallow. It also emphasises the need to not put all your eggs in one basket and make sure you have the funds to buy 'if' (translates in cryptospeak as 'when') the market falls. Deciding when you make these averaging down purchases is the key, as no-one has unlimited funds to keep buying more if the market keeps dropping, but plenty of research and use of technical analysis will go a long way to helping pick out buy points.

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March 09, 2018, 03:01:00 PM
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There are unnecessary things that commonly did by the new traders:
1. Buying coins in its peak.
2. Selling coins during bearish period.
We all know that they are commonly the mistakes of new traders specially when there is a big dump and speculations in the coin they hold. But I know that we will be mistaken in our first trading but for sure, we will be more expert on holding dump when we our in amidst of our journey in trading.

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March 09, 2018, 04:59:18 PM
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Averaging down is a tactic that everyone needs to use at some point. Eventually you will buy a high by mistake and being able to average down your position makes it much more likely you get out in a positive.

The difficulty is that most people don't have spare fiat to continue to invest. It's sensible to only invest about 50% of what you are willing to invest so that you always have fiat spare for such a scenario but many of us don't do that (myself included)

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March 09, 2018, 05:33:55 PM
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You are right, take the downtrend as an opportunity for you to go and buy more coins, don't be sad and feel sorry when the price is going low it is just normal, just make things go with the flow and take every negative as a positive way.

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March 09, 2018, 05:43:34 PM
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Averaging down is a longtime tactic that is used with shares trading. It is sensible to use the same method with crypto buying.
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March 09, 2018, 07:43:25 PM
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Yep, the mentioned tactic certainly is better than selling stuff in a fit of panic when the price goes down. Not advisable to do this with some random shitcoin as it could turn out to be a bottomless pit, but in the case of BTC it is actually a reasonable thing to do. I've implemented this tactic since a year or so and it beats the buy high sell low shenanigans for sure.
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March 09, 2018, 08:17:04 PM
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Drops are indeed opportunities. My plan was to accumulate as many coins as possible below the $10,000 mark, but got surprised by how quickly the market recovered back up to even nearly $12,000 again.

I was a little bit disappointed because my sub $10,000 accumulation goal was no longer applicable. Right now I am happy that I can start accumulating again, but have to wait for my wire transfer to post.

I like how you understand the importance of having fiat aside, because the far majority of the people either choose to go all in or all out, which is never a good idea. It severely limits your options since you depend on just one outcome.

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March 09, 2018, 09:29:13 PM
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A nice piece of advice that always gets unnoticed due to panic and paranoia.

Averaging is just one trick to ensure that you are not going down together with the price, but rather using the crashing price as a leverage to get you to a point wherein you are even or you can cash out without any loss. Think of it as a pulley; you are the piece that is bottomed out since you bought during the peak, and the piece that is over you is the current market price. If the price crashes, the piece goes down, and if you are smart enough to buy during those crashes, you are going up and removing the loss on your self piece by piece until it comes to a point that you're over the current market price and can sell without a loss, but with a profit.

It's simple but it works, and I've used that since I started to realize that holding is just a small part of a bigger picture.

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March 09, 2018, 10:33:07 PM
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you right  when iam a newbie also if the price go down in the market trend i was very wondering i tell to myself what will happen i'm very afraid, but suddenly after a month with of this forum, i continue to read and reseach abot the movement of cryptocurrency how it works.
so far the price are not in danger do not panic the expectation trend for bitcoin price going to 8k usd and after that price fly into the moon.

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March 09, 2018, 10:43:33 PM
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Crypto is very unpredictable. I already lose 1btc before due to bad trading. The best thing to consider before any trading is the price of BTC.  If Bitcoin is oversold, or may approach huge correction. Dont trade it with alts. Or better do not trade it all.  Invest only a portion,  then buy part by part until you entered all in a perfect position.

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That is a very good explanation and good idea, but since crypto is very unstable and maybe things can be turned out a little  unexpected and caused more lost,  this technique need a big capital and need  time to make it work, but its a good advice and one of the good way to cover your lost and make profit when the price volatility is high

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March 10, 2018, 12:36:58 AM
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Completely agree. I like to cost average in on a Friday. Especially during dip periods
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You are right, take the downtrend as an opportunity for you to go and buy more coins, don't be sad and feel sorry when the price is going low it is just normal, just make things go with the flow and take every negative as a positive way.
yeah always bear in mind that bitcoin will never become worthless in the future and in fact it will exceed again because  of some investors that still believing on bitcoin promises. .just buy more instead of worrying about it price nowadays 'cause surely soon it will start to increase when it have enough strength    .think positive guys.  .
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March 10, 2018, 02:44:05 AM
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great advice , but this only counts if you invested what you can lose. most people that panic are people that don't fully understand the market and maybe invested a bit to much. but in general it is good advice and give you a good price on a coin. just wait long enough and there is a big chance prices will go up and you are back in the green.
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Completely agree. I like to cost average in on a Friday. Especially during dip periods

That's the reason we shouldn't invest all our money at one time instead buy in small quantity at regular intervals then we will get a good average buy price.

There are unnecessary things that commonly did by the new traders:
1. Buying coins in its peak.


Even experienced traders also can't tell you exactly which is peak price to invest. Everything is just guessing game based on some calculations so better follow a systematic investment plan.

2. Selling coins during bearish period.

It always better to set some limits for both profit and losses and when you reach those limits then you can partially book your profit or loss. Most of the time it works out well. 
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great advice , but this only counts if you invested what you can lose. most people that panic are people that don't fully understand the market and maybe invested a bit to much. but in general it is good advice and give you a good price on a coin. just wait long enough and there is a big chance prices will go up and you are back in the green.
We do have different approach regarding to this investment, the market is really wild and the basic attitude that we needed inside is being patient, as we will keep seeing more and more unexpected sway, OP's have a great attitude considering that he already loses when he bought his coin when the price still at the pick then hold and never to sell out, then invest again believing that the market will grow again and bounce back is just around the corner, profits will be much sweater if we will just wait for another new height to achieved.

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March 10, 2018, 04:08:11 AM
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Averaging down is an old technique done by traders. This is an effective way to make some profit if you bought it in a peak and this is one of the reason why we discourage new traders to go all in. You always need to have a buying power just in case the price action did not go your way.

You can usually do this on Blue chips or in this case Established coins like Bitcoin or Ethereum but be careful doing this strategy on unproven coin because you will not know if that coin will go to die.

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When I first started to invest I used to panic whenever the market dropped by a few dollars, now I've started to enjoy the drops. It provides an ideal opportunity to average down, something I really should have learned about earlier, but glad I did eventually. For those who don't know what 'averaging down' is, it is buying more coins (in this example anyway, but works in exactly the same way with regular stocks) when the price drops to bring down your average buying price, therefore lowering the price at which you can cash in a profit. Using Bitcoin as an example...

1. Bought 1 BTC at $18,000 back in January (aaaarrrgggghh, unlucky...)
2. Price of Bitcoin drops to $9,000 (aaaarrrggghhh, why me...) - your $18,000 of Bitcoin is now only worth $9,000 and you cannot make any profit until it gets back above $18,000 - or can you??
3. Buy 1 BTC at $9,000 (clever, buy the sh*t out of that dip) - your average price paid for 1 BTC is now 'only' $13,500
4. Cash in profit at any point above $13,500 (champagne corks popping)

Obviously there are additional factors to work into this, as it would normally be worth making more than one extra purchase as the price drops to get a better average and to cover any sudden bounces back up, but it definitely makes market drops easier to swallow. It also emphasises the need to not put all your eggs in one basket and make sure you have the funds to buy 'if' (translates in cryptospeak as 'when') the market falls. Deciding when you make these averaging down purchases is the key, as no-one has unlimited funds to keep buying more if the market keeps dropping, but plenty of research and use of technical analysis will go a long way to helping pick out buy points.

Of a truth the right things to do now is to keep holding and buy more out of the deep. Bitcoin get to around  $20,000 and for those that buying then and sell now has loss serious amount of money. Bitcoin had fall below  $9,000 and this also provide another opportunity for those that want to get it cheap and has the fund to really buying them.

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March 10, 2018, 04:15:36 AM
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When I first started to invest I used to panic whenever the market dropped by a few dollars, now I've started to enjoy the drops. It provides an ideal opportunity to average down, something I really should have learned about earlier, but glad I did eventually. For those who don't know what 'averaging down' is, it is buying more coins (in this example anyway, but works in exactly the same way with regular stocks) when the price drops to bring down your average buying price, therefore lowering the price at which you can cash in a profit. Using Bitcoin as an example...

1. Bought 1 BTC at $18,000 back in January (aaaarrrgggghh, unlucky...)
2. Price of Bitcoin drops to $9,000 (aaaarrrggghhh, why me...) - your $18,000 of Bitcoin is now only worth $9,000 and you cannot make any profit until it gets back above $18,000 - or can you??
3. Buy 1 BTC at $9,000 (clever, buy the sh*t out of that dip) - your average price paid for 1 BTC is now 'only' $13,500
4. Cash in profit at any point above $13,500 (champagne corks popping)

Obviously there are additional factors to work into this, as it would normally be worth making more than one extra purchase as the price drops to get a better average and to cover any sudden bounces back up, but it definitely makes market drops easier to swallow. It also emphasises the need to not put all your eggs in one basket and make sure you have the funds to buy 'if' (translates in cryptospeak as 'when') the market falls. Deciding when you make these averaging down purchases is the key, as no-one has unlimited funds to keep buying more if the market keeps dropping, but plenty of research and use of technical analysis will go a long way to helping pick out buy points.

These are very convincing materials and it helps me less anxiety when the market goes down. I am a newcomer in the crypto market and the downfall of the market has caused me great panic and fear.
The above statistics have helped me less worry and have more experience in trading. I think you should convey this article in the topic of helping new people. Thanks very much.

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March 10, 2018, 06:27:15 AM
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When I first started to invest ....

here is your problem right in the beginning of your comment!
you have to decide whether you want to start trading bitcoin or you just want to make an investment in bitcoin. i say they are two very different options.

if you want to just invest, none of the things you are listing after this makes any sense because they are market fluctuations and an investor should not even care about these short term fluctuations anyways!

if you want to trade then that means you have to be more serious about it. you said you bought at $18,000 then follow it up with "unlucky"? that doesn't make sense. ok price dropped but so what? as a trader you should immediately adjust your strategy with the market. you sell at a loss with your stop loss and then buy back at the bottom (in the dip) sell on top buy back in the dip, rinse and repeat. that is what trading is not just buying and holding and hoping for the best and then saying things like "unlucky".

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