BitcoinCasinoPro Corrupted and Unethical Behavior | More Evidence!

[b!z]

Bitcoin Reviewer has written a much more accurate review here: http://bitcoinreviewer.com/casino/bit777-review/

Points have been taken off for the software not being probably fair in many games, but we feel that Bit777 provides excellent customer support and promotions, from our experience dealing with this online casino.

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[bit777]

They just crying because they don't offer legitimate games and offer thug like customer service... The ratings clearly show this on the rating guide.

I think A+ rated brands (who are not sponsors) coming into this thread and "exposing" the real reason why D rated bit777 is in this thread speaks volumes.

What you are saying is nonsense. Noone has exposed anything else except us exposing your bad practices. Users have to be blind to not see it.

[bit777]

Bitcoin Reviewer has written a much more accurate review here: http://bitcoinreviewer.com/casino/bit777-review/

Points have been taken off for the software not being probably fair in many games, but we feel that Bit777 provides excellent customer support and promotions, from our experience dealing with this online casino.

Thanks for that!

[b!z]

Bitcoin Reviewer has written a much more accurate review here: http://bitcoinreviewer.com/casino/bit777-review/

Points have been taken off for the software not being probably fair in many games, but we feel that Bit777 provides excellent customer support and promotions, from our experience dealing with this online casino.

Thanks for that!

No problem. We're currently working adding reviews for all major Bitcoin casinos. A review for Peerbet should be coming soon, either today or tomorrow.

Do you think we've missed anything in the review?

[bit777]

Bitcoin Reviewer has written a much more accurate review here: http://bitcoinreviewer.com/casino/bit777-review/

Points have been taken off for the software not being probably fair in many games, but we feel that Bit777 provides excellent customer support and promotions, from our experience dealing with this online casino.

Thanks for that!

No problem. We're currently working adding reviews for all major Bitcoin casinos. A review for Peerbet should be coming soon, either today or tomorrow.

Do you think we've missed anything in the review?

No it's fine and much appreciated. I wish you all the best in your endeavor.

[bit777]

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Is this something to be proud of? Anyone who comes to your site will think that you are an amateur having no actual knowledge on gambling, once he reads that you based your review on 20 BJ hands. (for which you claimed that you did over 100 here on the forum).

[Mitchell]

I never really looked at the ratings, but I did do a job for them. The person I was talking to seemed very professional and was even willing to pay me before I had finished the job (I declined that of course). Anyway, he quickly send me the BTC he owned me after I finished the job and after all it was one of the smoothest transactions / jobs I had. So in that perspective he seems like a very decent and professional person and I would definitely work for him again.

[Mooshire]

I never really looked at the ratings, but I did do a job for them. The person I was talking to seemed very professional and was even willing to pay me before I had finished the job (I declined that of course). Anyway, he quickly send me the BTC he owned me after I finished the job and after all it was one of the smoothest transactions / jobs I had. So in that perspective he seems like a very decent and professional person and I would definitely work for him again.

I can say the same, I feel like he is seriously trying to do this right. He has all of his personal information posted too. I genuinely feel that he is not trying to scam people.

[bit777]

It is not about scamming people. It is about being biased and corrupted in the sole product his site offers - his rating and review system.

[bit777]

Read through this: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7659/betcoin-tm-allegedly-fraudulent-activity/

The website in question does have A+ Rating!!!

[Oldminer]

This guy's a low-life.

He contacted the owner of Bitwincasino.com & offered to submit a free casino review initially, (though alarm bells started ringing after I noticed this thread shortly afterwards).

The owner of Bitwincasino.com then contacted him regards the review at which point he demanded 12BTC for it, or he would provide a negative review (full story here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309060.0).

Steer clear of this guy & his site.

[monbux]

Okay this honestly seems quite bullshit. Don't put bias in your reviews. Paying sites should not have higher ratings. Non-paying sites should not have low ratings.

Bitcoin Casino Pro actually has companies ranking better in respected categories that are not sponsors than some that are. (Seals With Clubs is a perfect example) One of the main benefits of being an elite sponsor comes with location, location, location.. Ratings are not actually bought. We upgraded a particular casino recently to the A+ mark as they earned it that is the goal of the site.

In my opinion, your reviews are quite biased.
They aren't full of baloney though.

[bit777]

Just-Dice chat. This is how you get an A+. All you need to do is pay 25btc and its done! The article in question: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7659/betcoin-tm-allegedly-fraudulent-activity/

13:54:09 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> sounds like another gambling agenda from someone
13:54:27 (72492) <badguy> with that much evidence...highly doubt it
13:54:43 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they have spent 2000 btcs on advertising
13:54:44 (72492) <badguy> there are screenshots of actual copyright theft, hash theft
13:54:50 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> why would they "do evil"?
13:54:55 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> just dont understand
13:54:55 (72492) <badguy> trademark theft
13:55:04 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> oh I agree thats messed up
13:55:17 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> but no harm no foul? we are talking words not actual programs
13:55:33 (72492) <badguy> are they a paid sponsor on your site?
13:55:37 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> yes
13:55:59 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> so is 19 other companies
13:57:03 (72492) <badguy> yeah, well in my opinion, and apparently what i read, stealing someone else's product isnt cool
13:57:08 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> i agree
13:57:12 (72492) <badguy> shows real low moral character
13:57:21 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> but from a service perspective to players what risk?>
13:57:31 (72492) <badguy> hah
13:57:35 (72492) <badguy> ill tell you what
13:57:37 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> give me a reason to downgrade that effects play
13:57:40 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> i will right now
13:58:03 (72492) <badguy> if today they do all this, tomorrow they will just quit with their players balances, and vanish
13:58:05 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> what they doing is shady it's uncool to steal peoples homework
13:58:17 (710) <drfred> what? i highly doubt that 12:54:43 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they have spent 2000 btcs on advertising
13:58:18 (134004) <SJ> have you read that article on betcoin?
13:58:35 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> just look in the bitcoin forum auctions
13:58:49 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they won a full month in a row at 250 btc x 8 slots a week?
13:59:09 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> for how many weeks plus they donated 50 btc to them , 25 or so to us, 100;s of other locations
13:59:11 (72492) <badguy> bro, madoff was running a ponzi for 50 years, 49 years he was ok, and people were happy. theft happens only once
13:59:12 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they have spent lots
13:59:37 (134004) <SJ> so theyre basically buying their rating from you
13:59:42 (72492) <badguy> ^^^
13:59:47 (710) <drfred> @ray: no, about betcoin
13:59:57 (72492) <badguy> SJ right on spot
14:00:02 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> no but financial security is a portion of the rating
14:00:25 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> just-dice spent zero with us and they rank A+
14:00:31 (98066) <Nix> wait so I could open a site and pay you to make it sound good?
14:00:32 (72492) <badguy> well bcp I don't understand how can you defend them after all their actions
14:00:35 (134004) <SJ> have you read that betcoin article?
14:00:42 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they don't even offer an affiliate program so no money earned just losses occur from sending players here
14:00:43 (134004) <SJ> betcoin should be nowhere near a+ site
14:01:07 (710) <drfred> they gave him money @SJ, he cant rate them bad
14:01:17 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they offer provable gaming, have financial security
14:01:28 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> good feedback from playerss
14:01:28 (134004) <SJ> have you read that article??
14:01:32 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> the 3 main components
14:01:35 (168205) <wanda> LOL
14:01:36 (134004) <SJ> they dont offer provably fair at all
14:01:41 (710) <drfred> or at least he wont
14:01:49 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> actually its lock tight they use blockchain
14:01:57 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> Doug could verify that
14:02:07 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> oh don'
14:02:11 (72492) <badguy> its not man
14:02:13 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> the satoshi wheel
14:02:16 (134004) <SJ> when the secret keys for the previous days were clicked on nothing was revealed. They were empty. This is disturbing as it appears that BetCoinDice’s secret keys information has been lifted directly from the SatoshiDice website
14:02:21 (710) <drfred> as bitpro did prove earlier, he's an expert about security
14:02:21 (134004) <SJ> how is that provably fair??
14:02:28 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> its not
14:02:43 (72492) <badguy> Tradefortress revealed their fairness is a scam
14:02:50 (70603) <life> 19:01:17 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they offer provable gaming, have financial security
14:02:50 (72492) <badguy> in the forum some time ago
14:02:51 (70603) <life> 19:02:28 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> its not
14:03:09 (168205) <wanda> TIL bitcoincasinopro isn't a pro at anything
14:03:15 (134004) <SJ> so bitcoincasinopro is just takin gthe money to keep them a+ then so loses all respect
14:03:25 (70603) <life> bcpro is a paid fraud shill from the beginning
14:03:31 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> nah
14:03:32 (710) <drfred> looks like that, yes
14:03:33 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/betcoin-network/betcoin-circle-playing-unfair-network-downgraded/
14:03:38 (72492) <badguy> for real
14:04:51 (72492) <badguy> bcp what you are showing is nonsense
14:04:53 (134004) <SJ> bitcoincasinopro you even have their link right there on the front page
14:05:06 (134004) <SJ> so im sorry but youre promoting an obvious scam site for money
14:05:09 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> i exposed them for not offering a fair wheel
14:05:15 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> that portion has been downgraded
14:05:23 (134004) <SJ> take their link off your front page
14:05:24 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> how is that not fair?
14:05:52 (134004) <SJ> on your front page under dice sites part way down they are the first site listed
14:05:56 (134004) <SJ> how much did they pay you for that
14:06:44 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they cheated me directly on the wheel prior to offering provable gaming for it
14:06:49 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> i lost 2 btc out of it
14:07:00 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> dont act like Im not a player as you all are right?
14:07:02 (197637) <Vani> http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com is that your website?
14:07:03 (134004) <SJ> take them off your front page
14:07:03 (168205) <wanda> we need to make a website that rates websites that rates casinos.
14:07:09 (72492) <badguy> you just said they paid you 25btc
14:07:29 (710) <drfred> @wanda: I'm so in on that
14:07:34 (134004) <SJ> why would you have a scam site listed first on the front page under dice sites?
14:07:42 (710) <drfred> meta-rating
14:07:47 (72492) <badguy> SJ its also A+ rated!!!
14:07:51 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> the dice is provable fair they use blockchain
14:08:22 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> I will ask the seasoned vets to review the gaming fairness again
14:08:37 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> and just for the record tradefortress was one that validated that it is indeed fair
14:08:38 (134004) <SJ> bitcoincasinopro you are a sellout
14:08:45 (134004) <SJ> ive just lost all respect for your site and you
14:08:53 (168205) <wanda> +1
14:09:01 (72492) <badguy> tradefortress is the one that revealed their fairness is fake!!!
14:09:08 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> originally
14:09:12 (72492) <badguy> you schill
14:09:21 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> than went to posting it was legitimate
14:09:26 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> I kept the records
14:09:48 (134004) <SJ> how much did they pay you to be first site listed on front page under dice sites?
14:09:55 (72492) <badguy> wanda +1 on the idea , we really need a review site to filter people like bcp
14:10:00 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they didn't pay for that elite spot
14:10:12 (134004) <SJ> so why do you have a scam site there then
14:10:12 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they paid a yearly fee to be included
14:13:47 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> again i lose money promoting just-dice and they A+
14:13:50 (168205) <wanda> i skipped to the bottom of that document, saw a bitcoin address right next to an A+ rating logo
14:13:51 (72492) <badguy> if tomorrow i come up with a dice site and pay you, ill get A+ too, then i scam people and go away
14:13:54 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> Bitzino A+ dont earn a penny there
14:14:07 (134004) <SJ> youre protecting a scam site simple as that
14:14:14 (134004) <SJ> because they line your pockets
14:14:30 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> i have declined many offers sorta like bit companies
14:14:37 (710) <drfred> hahahahaha 13:13:47 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> again i lose money promoting just-dice and they A
14:14:40 (710) <drfred> weird logic
14:14:48 (72492) <badguy> ^^^
14:14:52 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/bitwin-casino/
14:14:52 (134004) <SJ> youre protecting a scam site BCP its so obvious and simple
14:17:12 (168205) <wanda> bcp you have 0 integrity
14:17:14 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> you know what
14:17:20 (72492) <badguy> you are a fucking joke
14:17:21 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> 10+ have complained about the rating
14:17:32 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> peoples thoughts are one of the bigger factors
14:17:36 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> lets calculate
14:17:39 (168205) <wanda> no 1 cares
14:17:43 (168205) <wanda> ur a joke
14:17:48 (134004) <SJ> you and your site is a joke BCP really,
14:17:56 (72492) <badguy> hahahaha
14:18:07 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> BCP Overall Rating B+ Software A+ Financial Security A+ Dice Promotions A+ Player Feedback C-
14:18:20 (134004) <SJ> how much do i need to pay you get my site listed first with a+ rating, how much does that cost
14:18:25 (72492) <badguy> changing your own rating because others are calling you out?
14:18:35 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> its been published
14:18:37 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> nothing has changed
14:18:44 (134004) <SJ> how much does it cost bcp?
14:18:48 (134004) <SJ> whats your bribe rates
14:18:58 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> ratings cannot be bought
14:18:59 (168205) <wanda> can i get a discounted bribe rate?
14:19:02 (72492) <badguy> man go hide in a cave
14:19:09 (134004) <SJ> youve proved they can be bought
14:19:15 (134004) <SJ> how much does a+ cost
14:19:19 (70603) <life> 12btc

[Mitchell]

I don't see how that chat proves anything.

13:59:09 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> for how many weeks plus they donated 50 btc to them , 25 or so to us, 100;s of other locations

14:18:58 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> ratings cannot be bought

Also Dooglus said he never paid them and they still got an A+.
I don't choose sides, because I have no idea what is true and what is not. I just stated my opinion about that particular post.

[aksplace]

I don't see how that chat proves anything.

13:59:09 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> for how many weeks plus they donated 50 btc to them , 25 or so to us, 100;s of other locations

14:18:58 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> ratings cannot be bought

Also Dooglus said he never paid them and they still got an A+.

Your right, it don't prove anything just another failed smear campaign attempt.

[bit777]

I don't see how that chat proves anything.

13:59:09 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> for how many weeks plus they donated 50 btc to them , 25 or so to us, 100;s of other locations

14:18:58 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> ratings cannot be bought

Also Dooglus said he never paid them and they still got an A+.

They paid him 25btc. He refuses to score them low, even though there is a ton of evidence for corrupted behavior on their end. He gave him an A+ for software...that is outright ridiculous given the fact that they cloned SD in its entirety. He claims they do not pay him for the high rating. How is his behavior not corrupted?

I can tell you one thing. Where he claims he comes from (SBR http://www.sportsbookreview.com), this would have never happened. It just doesn't work this way. The SBR rating process:

Your company enters with an initial rating of B or C, depending on past history of the founders. For 6 months you are not allowed to pay a penny to them to advertise, this is their trial period. After you have been secure for 6 months, with no wrongdoing, and if they decide it is safe, they allow you to to do paid advertisements on their site. The only times a rating goes down is when there are player complaints.

In this case, paying BCP from day one ensures higher rating, and not only that, but also lobbying in your favor on public spaces. Dooglus hasn't paid and in my opinion he doesn't have to. He runs the largest dice site, so why would he pay. What review site in their right mind would not include his business...

[Oldminer]

Your right, it don't prove anything just another failed smear campaign attempt.

Funny, you seem to be getting a LOT of them lately.

[elbill]

Dude, google variance. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, that's how games of chance work. It's not the casino cheating you, it's just bad luck. Get over it.

I worked at spanish BetVictor.com (gibraltar), a casino by cycles is not dishonest, is how works all legal online casinos. The random component is the duration of each cycle. And it ensures a% profit for the owner (short and long term)

Saying that the game is -"fair" / Use mersenne twister algorithm- and use cycles is dishonest, and deserves a D+.

[bit777]

Dude, google variance. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, that's how games of chance work. It's not the casino cheating you, it's just bad luck. Get over it.

I worked at spanish BetVictor.com (gibraltar), a casino by cycles is not dishonest, is how works all legal online casinos. The random component is the duration of each cycle. And it ensures a% profit for the owner (short and long term)

Saying that the game is -"fair" / Use mersenne twister algorithm- and use cycles is dishonest, and deserves a D+.

If you are speaking about us, we don't use payout cycles and never said it. It is entirely random. The cycles you are describing are called Volatility in the gambling industry, and they have nothing to do with ensuring profit for the owner. What was your position in BetVictor?

[aksplace]

I don't see how that chat proves anything.

13:59:09 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> for how many weeks plus they donated 50 btc to them , 25 or so to us, 100;s of other locations

14:18:58 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> ratings cannot be bought

Also Dooglus said he never paid them and they still got an A+.

They paid him 25btc. He refuses to score them low, even though there is a ton of evidence for corrupted behavior on their end. He gave him an A+ for software...that is outright ridiculous given the fact that they cloned SD in its entirety. He claims they do not pay him for the high rating. How is his behavior not corrupted?

I can tell you one thing. Where he claims he comes from (SBR http://www.sportsbookreview.com), this would have never happened. It just doesn't work this way. The SBR rating process:

Your company enters with an initial rating of B or C, depending on past history of the founders. For 6 months you are not allowed to pay a penny to them to advertise, this is their trial period. After you have been secure for 6 months, with no wrongdoing, and if they decide it is safe, they allow you to to do paid advertisements on their site. The only times a rating goes down is when there are player complaints.

In this case, paying BCP from day one ensures higher rating, and not only that, but also lobbying in your favor on public spaces. Dooglus hasn't paid and in my opinion he doesn't have to. He runs the largest dice site, so why would he pay. What review site in their right mind would not include his business...

Betcoin Dice did not pay us 25 BTC for an A+ rating and for the record they currently hold a B+ rating. The reason for the downgrade was for not withholding standards the industry has came to expect. Clearly the alleged copyright infringements have us concerned. We don't see them folks in here crying wolf instead they are focusing on improving the products they offer and coming out with more games. I'm not sure how many times and in different languages I can preach this to you in regards to fair evaluations. Ratings cannot be bought clearly listed on the main page and Insertion Order! Oh and we are not an entity of SBR and have never claimed of being one. Clearly different levels of gaming as they focus on cash post up only and we offer bitcoin reviews.