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March 11, 2018, 09:28:38 PM
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You know DARPA , FBI and similar agencies have large RnD budgets.
Internet(first intranet) and TOR developed by similar agencies and they followed criminal with that products.
And we know that first mined bitcoins are not moving, who doesnt touches his 10 billion usd ? If S.N. is dead maybe thats why but if not it maybe a government project.
You cant touch country's money becaouse it is illegal. Yes they sold silkroad's money but that was a standart procedure. So its high probability bitcoin is a USA funded secret project. Nobody is allowed to say it and nobody is allowed to move first bitcoins. This is far best option.
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March 12, 2018, 12:16:36 AM
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So you honestly think that Satoshi doesn't have other unknown Bitcoins?
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March 12, 2018, 01:36:02 PM
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IMO Satoshi Nakamoto will never work for them or for anyone because he envisioned to use Bitcoin for the sole purpose of decentralization and obviously no corruption digital currency that FIAT money already has a very long time ago(or until it was made).

BlockChain was never developed by DARPA so I don't think that Bitcoin is correlated with it, all the things in the internet was being innovated by different kinds of genius people for what good or bad it may be, so we can connect them by this so called 'Internet' thing for as long as we want but it will remain conspiracy theory until this assumption proven right.

Again, Maybe or maybe not. If that is really the case then we can't still do anything about it but to use Bitcoin if we still want to.
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March 12, 2018, 10:00:01 PM
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IMO Satoshi Nakamoto will never work for them or for anyone because he envisioned to use Bitcoin for the sole purpose of decentralization and obviously no corruption digital currency that FIAT money already has a very long time ago(or until it was made).

BlockChain was never developed by DARPA so I don't think that Bitcoin is correlated with it, all the things in the internet was being innovated by different kinds of genius people for what good or bad it may be, so we can connect them by this so called 'Internet' thing for as long as we want but it will remain conspiracy theory until this assumption proven right.

Again, Maybe or maybe not. If that is really the case then we can't still do anything about it but to use Bitcoin if we still want to.
I agree on the point that not all major stuff being developed by those BIG agencies or government related since there are lots of geniuses throughout the net which same as you said.Not all the times they do have the involvement on a particular thing but we cant really be so sure if they weren't involve since there no proof or evidence such conspiracies but well I don't really care at all if those first mined bitcoin being moved or not as long we can able to utilize bitcoins usage then it should be fine for us.
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March 14, 2018, 10:38:46 PM
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You know DARPA , FBI and similar agencies have large RnD budgets.
Internet(first intranet) and TOR developed by similar agencies and they followed criminal with that products.
And we know that first mined bitcoins are not moving, who doesnt touches his 10 billion usd ? If S.N. is dead maybe thats why but if not it maybe a government project.
You cant touch country's money becaouse it is illegal. Yes they sold silkroad's money but that was a standart procedure. So its high probability bitcoin is a USA funded secret project. Nobody is allowed to say it and nobody is allowed to move first bitcoins. This is far best option.

You have solid points. The amount of not moved BTC is staggering.

I have often speculated about this matter, that the creator of BTC could in fact be some agency like CIA which needed a anonymous way to move money for their black projects.
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March 14, 2018, 11:23:06 PM
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First of all, Bitcoin is not considered a currency by the U.S. government, so your argument about not being able to touch a country's money is invalid.

Recently, an article in The Economist, titled "One world, one money" from September of 1988 came to light, where the author is predicting that in 30 years [2018], a new world currency will prevail and be utilized globally:

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THIRTY years from now, Americans, Japanese, Europeans, and people in many other rich countries, and some relatively poor ones will probably be paying for their shopping with the same currency.

While I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I am a realist that likes to [over]analyze situations. The Economist is, and has always been owned or controlled by the Rothschilds. The Rothschild families have controlled world banks for generations. Control the banks and you control the world.

I used to laugh at anyone who claimed that the NSA created Bitcoin. I used to ask them why and how the NSA could create a trust less decentralized peer-to-peer currency that they have no control over, and what the purpose would be. But lately, seeing as exchanges are required to flip and turn over their customer database, and start implementing more KYC verification procedures, this could potentially have been the plan all along. It's highly doubtful that this is the case with Bitcoin, but it's not an impossibility.

The thing that truly makes me question the government's involvement? The network effect of the internet and when it was implemented. That's another example of something that was created by the government that they lost control over. Now they're trying to regain control (net neutrality), but we all know that it's too late. So could be the case with Bitcoin? Again, highly doubtful, but not an impossibility.

I have often speculated about this matter, that the creator of BTC could in fact be some agency like CIA which needed a anonymous way to move money for their black projects.

This. I firmly believe that Bitcoin was/is [being] used to fund black ops. I believe that the deep web is being utilized by governmental operatives, and Bitcoin could have been used as the method of compensation for conducting illegal contracts. And being amongst a space filled with the world's best hackers, Bitcoin became introduced to the public.

There are so many theories out there, and as much as I question who Satoshi Nakamoto is/was, it's satisfying to think that this system is irreversible. Blockchain technology is simply amazing, and whether Bitcoin was created by the government or not, cryptocurrency is the new money.
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March 15, 2018, 12:18:02 AM
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First of all, Bitcoin is not considered a currency by the U.S. government, so your argument about not being able to touch a country's money is invalid.

Recently, an article in The Economist, titled "One world, one money" from September of 1988 came to light, where the author is predicting that in 30 years [2018], a new world currency will prevail and be utilized globally:
Even though US will not consider Bitcoin as a currency it is still based on a $ value market cap.

The author was written the article 20 years ago or maybe this is the one you are pertaining to http://www.anonews.co/rothschild-world-cuurency/ that was really written on 1988.

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While I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I am a realist that likes to [over]analyze situations. The Economist is, and has always been owned or controlled by the Rothschilds. The Rothschild families have controlled world banks for generations. Control the banks and you control the world.

I used to laugh at anyone who claimed that the NSA created Bitcoin. I used to ask them why and how the NSA could create a trust less decentralized peer-to-peer currency that they have no control over, and what the purpose would be. But lately, seeing as exchanges are required to flip and turn over their customer database, and start implementing more KYC verification procedures, this could potentially have been the plan all along. It's highly doubtful that this is the case with Bitcoin, but it's not an impossibility.

The thing that truly makes me question the government's involvement? The network effect of the internet and when it was implemented. That's another example of something that was created by the government that they lost control over. Now they're trying to regain control (net neutrality), but we all know that it's too late. So could be the case with Bitcoin? Again, highly doubtful, but not an impossibility.

Conspiracy about Rothschild Family controlling over the world is too cliche(for me)
I think the active family members that are running the businesses is not that fully in control compare to the one that really started it all. It's quite obvious they already build an empire to which their family and future next generation doesn't need to work and think too much for maintaining the businesses so they are just leveraging it by hiring multiple financial people(maybe this is capable to control world) to do the work for them.

We can't blame those Rothschild's dynasty though as they are the one who pioneered this thing, I hope my great grandfather did it instead.

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March 16, 2018, 08:01:49 AM
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This. I firmly believe that Bitcoin was/is [being] used to fund black ops. I believe that the deep web is being utilized by governmental operatives, and Bitcoin could have been used as the method of compensation for conducting illegal contracts. And being amongst a space filled with the world's best hackers, Bitcoin became introduced to the public.

I am not a fan of conspiracy theories and I doubt bitcoin was created for such purpose, but I also believe it was and is used for this kind of operations. Probably not from the very beginning, but what was good enough for Silk Road is definitely suitable for intelligence agencies and the like.
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March 17, 2018, 04:04:26 PM
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HOW ABOUT GLOBAL CURRENCY BEING ENERGY ?
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March 17, 2018, 04:30:22 PM
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If you look at Satoshi's posting interval on this forum you'll soon realize he was just a normal dude doing what he loved. Then he disappeared off the face of the planet because he probably realized he created the most revolutionary form of currency in modern times.
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March 17, 2018, 05:36:06 PM
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Satoshi is whoever or whatever you want them to be.

Perhaps Satoshi lurks among us in these very forums?  Maybe even posting under a different name?  Perhaps I am Satoshi?  Perhaps you are Satoshi, trying to draw attention away from yourself?

Regardless of who or what Satoshi is, their unique ability to combine several ideas that were out there but not pulled together and create Bitcoin was more than merely innovative, it was revolutionary.

If Satoshi ever reveals themselves to the world, I hope to be able to shake their hand.  If they never do, I'm okay with that too.

The creation of Bitcoin will be marked as a turning point in world history, alongside the printing press, lightbulb, Internet, and automobiles.  Bitcoin marks the creation of a new paradigm.

My personal view is that Satoshi is a person, a single person, probably male.  Probably not part of the intelligence community, or if they are, Bitcoin was probably not something created by/for their use (though it may be being used by them now).  More like a hobby project.  But I haven't spent oodles of time trying to figure out Satoshi's identity.  They chose to go dark for a reason, I respect that.

Thank you, Satoshi, for your great contribution to humanity!

Best regards,
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March 22, 2018, 03:41:38 AM
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I don't think so. I don't see a point if they will do that. FBI is an organization to fight/investigate crime. They are not impostors. If Satoshi is alive and he knows that FBI is using his name, I 'm sure he will do something about it. He will never allow anyone to over his legacy. Considering how good he is, no wonder the FBI doesn't have any info about him.
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March 22, 2018, 10:38:48 AM
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i dont think it , but bitcoin is supported by hidden government i think it is china
Remember when China abandoned support bitcoin what did happen !!
whoever bitcoin is supported by hidden government.
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March 22, 2018, 12:15:15 PM
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Satoshi Nakamoto could be anyone.

If you want to look through the governmental agencies point of view, Bitcoin can be seen like a tool by the most indebted governments.

The world is a zero sum game, and fiat currencies have their value pushed down.
There is a race to devaluate currencies as much as government can, so they will repay their national debt with money that isn't worth anything anymore.
They don't care if this destroys people's wealth in the process.

Why is the USA still leading, and how it's power is fading away ?
It is through the US Dollar. Most of the world still uses it as a global reserve currency, and the USA has a total authority over it, but this is changing a little more, day after day.

Bitcoin can be anything.
It can be a trojan horse created by the Chinese to disrupt the world power order. (As portrayed in the TV serie "Mr Robot" with Ecoin (USA) vs Bitcoin (China))

Only the future will tell us, but serious discussions about SN are very interesting.
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March 22, 2018, 06:51:32 PM
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No way, why would he work for the FBI or other agencies. I mean you can never know but I don't see the logic on why Satoshi can be the FBI. He's probably somewhere on a island or in some low-key country hiding from the feds.
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March 23, 2018, 03:21:40 AM
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england always used to be very good in cryptography. so it might be islands than western land) but its gonna take a while until the facts would be uncovered
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It can be from the beautiful Pearl of the Orient Seas.  Grin Grin Grin
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March 30, 2018, 01:00:06 PM
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You know DARPA , FBI and similar agencies have large RnD budgets.
Internet(first intranet) and TOR developed by similar agencies and they followed criminal with that products.
And we know that first mined bitcoins are not moving, who doesnt touches his 10 billion usd ? If S.N. is dead maybe thats why but if not it maybe a government project.
You cant touch country's money becaouse it is illegal. Yes they sold silkroad's money but that was a standart procedure. So its high probability bitcoin is a USA funded secret project. Nobody is allowed to say it and nobody is allowed to move first bitcoins. This is far best option.

It is hard to believe that someone doesn't touch such a big amount of money, but different people have different motivation and system of values.

In order to create something such complex and innovative as Bitcoin, a person should be far above it, meaning his main interests are laying in his creation success in the fist place. And moving this 10 or something billions would do exactly the opposite - spread FUD and cause market crash.
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March 30, 2018, 11:20:43 PM
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First off satoshi for sure had other btc wallets and not just the one with 1 million btc.  For all we know satoshi could be an aritficial intelligence robot that wanted to a design a currency to make itself wealthy and take over the world.
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March 31, 2018, 11:06:40 AM
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I think it can't be, because bitcoin not handle by the government. So I think is impossible. Bitcoin now decentralized system.
The system is good because in this system bitcoin can low and high the price. If bitcoin do centralized system, I'm not sure the price go high fast.
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