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March 12, 2018, 04:12:35 AM
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HI,

I am very new to Bitcoin. I have an account with Coinbase. While on line I tried to make a purchase, I sent the Bitcoin to an address for deposit. The Bitcoin went through the address and has bounced around, a total of 1106  confirmations to be exact.. When I track it, it says spent at the last address. I came across the vendor on another site, I spoke with him and he said it wasn't his address. But he would work with me.

Is it possible to get my Bitcoin back? I would be happy to pay a bounty in Bitcoin if I can get it back.

Thanks!
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Bitcoin addresses contain a checksum, so it is very unlikely that mistyping an address will cause you to lose money.
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March 12, 2018, 04:17:06 AM
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no, unfortunately for you bitcoin transactions are not reversible if they are confirmed and your transaction (based on what you said) is already confirmed.

your only possible option is to figure out where you got that address which you sent to. if you can find out the owner then you may ask him to send it back. otherwise if you copied a wrong address or for example if you have a clipboard-hijacker malware on your computer which changes copied bitcoin addresses, then you are out of luck.

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March 12, 2018, 09:10:50 AM
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As pooya says above, you can't get the coins back if they're confirmed - that's part of the Bitcoin appeal, irreversible transactions. There's another possibility here: the vendor could be trying his luck. If you got the address from the vendor's site/page (you should prove where you got it, a screenshot perhaps?) and if your device isn't compromised (you scan and find nothing), you could also try look up the address, perhaps the vendor is already linked to it or linked to any of the addresses that the "spent" coins went to.

A bit tricky to do business with Bitcoin for newcomers but you probably know by now to confirm ownership of the address if doing direct txs with vendors. Which site did you do this on?

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March 12, 2018, 11:51:43 AM
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HI,

I am very new to Bitcoin. I have an account with Coinbase. While on line I tried to make a purchase, I sent the Bitcoin to an address for deposit. The Bitcoin went through the address and has bounced around, a total of 1106  confirmations to be exact.. When I track it, it says spent at the last address. I came across the vendor on another site, I spoke with him and he said it wasn't his address. But he would work with me.

Is it possible to get my Bitcoin back? I would be happy to pay a bounty in Bitcoin if I can get it back.

Thanks!

Always and always double check what you are doing and to whom are you sending your money. The whole idea behind bitcoin is that there is no middleman who can do charge backs or anything, you are responsible for your funds and thus you should act accordingly. Maybe you had some malware that switched the address which you have copied I know those exist as well.
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March 12, 2018, 12:25:20 PM
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HI,

I am very new to Bitcoin. I have an account with Coinbase. While on line I tried to make a purchase, I sent the Bitcoin to an address for deposit. The Bitcoin went through the address and has bounced around, a total of 1106  confirmations to be exact.. When I track it, it says spent at the last address. I came across the vendor on another site, I spoke with him and he said it wasn't his address. But he would work with me.

Is it possible to get my Bitcoin back? I would be happy to pay a bounty in Bitcoin if I can get it back.

Thanks!
This happened with me during my initial days dealing with bitcoin and ethereum ... unfortunately you cant get them back
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March 12, 2018, 09:56:08 PM
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HI,

I am very new to Bitcoin. I have an account with Coinbase. While on line I tried to make a purchase, I sent the Bitcoin to an address for deposit. The Bitcoin went through the address and has bounced around, a total of 1106  confirmations to be exact.. When I track it, it says spent at the last address. I came across the vendor on another site, I spoke with him and he said it wasn't his address. But he would work with me.

Is it possible to get my Bitcoin back? I would be happy to pay a bounty in Bitcoin if I can get it back.

Thanks!

If you are 100% the deposit address is correct, then the vendor is trying to scam you.
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March 13, 2018, 08:20:44 AM
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Well this is for sure no way to reverse a bitcoin transaction. There are two possibilities  1. seller is trying to scam you 2. You sent your bitcoins to wrong address

If its first scenario then try to get some info from seller like
1. Confirm with seller correct bitcoin and see what address did you use to send your bitcoin  (compare with your trans history in coinbase)
2. Check with seller if they uses unique new address for each sale or using same address for all users (logically they should be using same address)
3. If its same then you should see multiple receivings from different customers along with you transaction <----- means seller denying the receiving

4. Now if they generate unique address each sale, ask them how they generate and how they keep track of it. It is possible new address generated and lost by seller.

If the seller is honest and legitimate they will help. Otherwise you can only forget and curse the seller :p

In case second scenario if you sent to wrong address then you have trace the source of that address and request the source to send it back.

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March 13, 2018, 07:49:03 PM
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HI,

I am very new to Bitcoin. I have an account with Coinbase. While on line I tried to make a purchase, I sent the Bitcoin to an address for deposit. The Bitcoin went through the address and has bounced around, a total of 1106  confirmations to be exact.. When I track it, it says spent at the last address. I came across the vendor on another site, I spoke with him and he said it wasn't his address. But he would work with me.

Is it possible to get my Bitcoin back? I would be happy to pay a bounty in Bitcoin if I can get it back.

Thanks!

If you are 100% the deposit address is correct, then the vendor is trying to scam you.
Possible case and might considered to investigate around if you did send into the right address.This is really plausible if someone neglect or denied on receiving it on exact address but he refuse that he receive nothing then its just a pure scam but if you sent it on a wrong address then for sure considered those bitcoins are lost forever since theres no way on reversing such transaction which had been broadcasted already.

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March 17, 2018, 03:39:57 AM
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I hate it when people are easily scammed like this. Bitcoin transaction is a one way thing. At least try to investigate the address you send it to. Probably the vendor did received it but lying. You should run a background check on the vendor's address to know if it is linked with the address you send it too.The only thing there is that; if you find out he is lying, you can't nail him if you don't know him physical.
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March 17, 2018, 05:52:32 AM
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"I sent the Bitcoin to an address for deposit."I came across the vendor on another site

First thing. Is it the exact same address that the vendor has given to you? Put both on a notepad and compare.

"I came across the vendor on another site"

What another site? Is the same vendor using another site? You need to give a better explanation so people could help you. But one thing is for sure, you will never be able to ask for a chargeback from Bitcoin. If you have sent, it is not yours anymore.
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March 17, 2018, 03:05:29 PM
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"I sent the Bitcoin to an address for deposit."I came across the vendor on another site

First thing. Is it the exact same address that the vendor has given to you? Put both on a notepad and compare.

"I came across the vendor on another site"

What another site? Is the same vendor using another site? You need to give a better explanation so people could help you. But one thing is for sure, you will never be able to ask for a chargeback from Bitcoin. If you have sent, it is not yours anymore.

I don't think there is any remedy as to retrieving the bitcoin, he sent a bitcoin to a wrong address except the vendor decides to have a change of heart. His post points to a direction, which is that he has lost it unfortunately .
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March 18, 2018, 05:26:57 AM
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HI,

I am very new to Bitcoin. I have an account with Coinbase. While on line I tried to make a purchase, I sent the Bitcoin to an address for deposit. The Bitcoin went through the address and has bounced around, a total of 1106  confirmations to be exact.. When I track it, it says spent at the last address. I came across the vendor on another site, I spoke with him and he said it wasn't his address. But he would work with me.

Is it possible to get my Bitcoin back? I would be happy to pay a bounty in Bitcoin if I can get it back.

Thanks!
There is no way to get back your bitcoins so you need to be careful with the address while making transactions,lots of newbies are making errors while copying the address.But the vendor may scam you so you need to check the address again.That is why there are escrows available for crypto transaction next time don't forget to hire an escrow while purchasing something.

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March 20, 2018, 01:37:06 PM
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Maybe you should change your exchange platform for more reliable one?
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March 20, 2018, 03:49:21 PM
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This is one of the big limitations of BTC and other cryptocurrencies. Once you have made a transaction and its confirmed, you can't undo that. Just make sure you have entered the right address before making a transaction to avoid any problem.
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March 20, 2018, 10:53:33 PM
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no, unfortunately for you bitcoin transactions are not reversible if they are confirmed and your transaction (based on what you said) is already confirmed.

your only possible option is to figure out where you got that address which you sent to. if you can find out the owner then you may ask him to send it back. otherwise if you copied a wrong address or for example if you have a clipboard-hijacker malware on your computer which changes copied bitcoin addresses, then you are out of luck.

How would I find out who the owner is?
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March 20, 2018, 11:13:12 PM
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As pooya says above, you can't get the coins back if they're confirmed - that's part of the Bitcoin appeal, irreversible transactions. There's another possibility here: the vendor could be trying his luck. If you got the address from the vendor's site/page (you should prove where you got it, a screenshot perhaps?) and if your device isn't compromised (you scan and find nothing), you could also try look up the address, perhaps the vendor is already linked to it or linked to any of the addresses that the "spent" coins went to.

A bit tricky to do business with Bitcoin for newcomers but you probably know by now to confirm ownership of the address if doing direct txs with vendors. Which site did you do this on?

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March 21, 2018, 04:35:06 AM
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So you sent 0.0485 BTC to "1ALVch..." in this transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx/b408b84eeb9a4a630537f2c453e0b3506faf5903a8f945fea3643e697c488a82 Huh

If so, that BTC was confirmed as you say in Block# 512013... and was then subsequently spent by the owner of that address (https://blockchain.info/tx/4adf53e1b94fbffd2c0029aa6596b9d1b32704c542b3a840f7d7da42f8c6ea47)

If the person you tried to send BTC to is saying that "1ALVch.." is NOT their address, then either you've sent it to the wrong address (accidentally copy/pasted the wrong address... or clipboard malware?)... or the vendor is trying to scam you.

Do you have a record anywhere of where you got this address from? Like an email or IM message or something? Or did you just copy it from a website?

How would I find out who the owner is?
Unless the owner of the address has linked that address to some sort of identifying information (ie. posted it in a message from an account, or posted it as a "tip" address on a website or something), then your chances of identifying the owner are relatively slim... Additionally, for the amount of BTC you've lost, it probably isn't worth trying to use a blockchain analysis service either.

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March 23, 2018, 01:26:57 PM
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Limited emission and missed coins is one of values of decentralization bitcoin. It will lead growing BTC.
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March 23, 2018, 03:17:23 PM
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if in my opinion not lost but stolen by a group of people who are not responsible. want to have a lot of assets but lazy hard work. finally they use a shortcut .
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March 24, 2018, 07:15:14 AM
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One thing that you know is that you did not send the bitcoin <with a typo> to a address without a owner. <because the bitcoins have been moved by the owner of the other address to another adress> You are dealing with a scammer or a thief, because this person is using those funds.

If it was a random address and it had a owner, then that owner would have noticed that money and they would send it back, if it was not meant for them. <if you were lucky>

Bitcoin gives individuals 100% control over their finances and unfortunately that come with a lot of responsibilities. You cannot go back to Banks or centralized services, if something goes wrong, you have to deal with that on your own.

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