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October 16, 2013, 07:01:50 AM
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I see 162.99  Grin

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October 16, 2013, 08:02:38 AM
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Currently, MtGox: $159.50. It would probably break through $200 by end of year.

one $ one day, just one month after the price would reach $200 Grin

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October 16, 2013, 08:31:15 AM
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Since the rocket is about to take off where are the rocket pictures?  Grin
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October 16, 2013, 08:39:11 AM
Last edit: October 16, 2013, 05:06:22 PM by RationalSpeculator
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Remember what happened when proudhon turned bull? Now ElectricMucus thinks "the bubble" will be "reinflated"...

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SELL! SELL! SELL!

Hold on... he may not be the LAST bear.  Has the ir-rationalSpeculator bought back yet???

lol, the day trading speculator!

the silence is deafening.

Glad you guys missed me Smiley

I admit I am very surprised how quick and strong the price recovered after the SR crash. I would have expected a much deeper and much longer correction. However, price is now going up parabolically again, sentiment is getting overly confident: victory songs popping up, bears being mocked. Short term all indicators to buy sell. For the coming months I still estimate chances we get another correction to below $100 much higher than going into another tenfolding.


That being said I have come to the insight that my strategy is indeed no good. My returns on bitcoin are now lower than a buy and hold (1080% for 2013 vs 1200% for buy and hold), I only have half the coins I started with and a bunch of fiat. I worry that the price will continue to go up and I will be left behind.

If I could do it all over I would follow cypherdoc his advise to buy more in February 2013 when it was breaking the old all time high of $30 from 2011, and to never sell a single coin but simply buy and hold. Easier because no trading needed, less counterparty risks, less taxable events, and eventhough much more volatile, very likely also much more profitable. My counterarguments against a buy and hold: 'risk management' I no longer support. Sure I could have sold some coins as to lock in some profits but half? *shrugs head*

Lesson learned. Thank you all for helping me see.


What to do now? Buy back the coins and make large losses if $60 were to be hit? Or continue to wait for a correction to $60 that may never come?

I'll take the middle road. I'll raise my fiat canons to above $90, instead of above $60. And this time I'll charge them sufficiently as I hadn't done so on the recent SR correction and due to this could only buy a few.


As to defend against the characterizations made of me.

Cypherdoc, when proven wrong I prefer a man of silence over a man that does not take ownership.

Zerg, though I have certainly been a bear most of the time since it first crossed $150, I have always remained open to a relaunch into new all time highs, and have turned bullish every time the price had corrected sharply. In my trading as well as analyses here. You throwing me into the bear camp like EM seems not nuanced to me. Am I misrepresenting myself or are you overconfident or angry? Where have I spoken irrational?
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October 16, 2013, 08:43:09 AM
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thanks for self critical analysis


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October 16, 2013, 08:48:46 AM
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EDIT: Only fools or those with balls of stell are shorting now, you know... only 39k btc for sale atm on Gox orderbook, a lot of bears are going to be burned, just mark my words  Grin

I agree, quick changes of price is very likely now, but both ways  Cheesy
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October 16, 2013, 09:20:40 AM
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respect for this self critical analysis.

thanks Smiley
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October 16, 2013, 09:41:51 AM
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A conservative outlook:

"Es ist kein Zeichen geistiger Gesundheit, gut angepasst an eine kranke Gesellschaft zu sein."
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October 16, 2013, 09:49:30 AM
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A conservative outlook:


Conservative I would call the line that touches the bottoms.
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October 16, 2013, 10:48:23 AM
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A conservative outlook:


A year and two months for every tenfold increase. $2000 by Feb. 2015, $20,000 by Spring 2016, trillion-dollar market cap a few months later. So like 3 years to mainstream adoption. I can dig it.
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Conservative I would call the line that touches the bottoms.
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October 16, 2013, 11:00:12 AM
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A conservative outlook:


A year and two months for every tenfold increase. $2000 by Feb. 2015, $20,000 by Spring 2016, trillion-dollar market cap a few months later. So like 3 years to mainstream adoption. I can dig it.

I too love thinking logarithmically about this. By my analysis, we've plateaued a couple of times for long periods after a tenfold increase. The latest plateau appears to be over.

As I'll never forget you saying a while back, "We've got to get going ".
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October 16, 2013, 11:49:16 AM
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Meanwhile the BIT now has a nice return since launch. 11% in 3 weeks, nearly 600% annualized. Not a bad start.

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October 8, 2013:$12.52
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October 16, 2013, 12:55:02 PM
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@cypherdoc where can I get this logarithmic chart? One for Bitstamp would be nice....
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October 16, 2013, 02:05:06 PM
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Last month I received the ASIC and the emotions were exactly the same as they were in the dream I saw 6 months earlier
Holy shit, you predicted your emotions!?
Are you some sort of pan-dimensional being with, like, superpowers and stuff??

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October 16, 2013, 03:20:53 PM
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Last month I received the ASIC and the emotions were exactly the same as they were in the dream I saw 6 months earlier
Holy shit, you predicted your emotions!?
Are you some sort of pan-dimensional being with, like, superpowers and stuff??

Not sure how much of your reply is an obvious joke but in case you didn't get my point then imagine this:
You see a dream where you are extremely happy about something related to bitcoin. Now what would that be that could make you very happy about bitcoin? The answer to this rhetorical question is the actual prediction. The emotions are just a hint.

I believe there are not many people that get exact predictions in their dreams. I know one however. A female friend of mine saw a very detailed dream of another woman. The face, the name and a message in russian language "paзвoд". She didn't know what that word meant. However, soon it turned out that her husband was cheating her with the same exact woman that appeared in her dream and she was shocked when she found out that "paзвoд" means divorce. Dreams are not a joke, be glad if you get to see them. It gets even more awesome when you get to experience lucid dreaming and astral travel but I will save these stories for another time Cheesy

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Cameras are to superstition what crosses are to vampires...

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October 17, 2013, 04:11:22 AM
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Tonight I saw a dream that the 150-200 range will be over very quickly and the next stop is 200+ prices. The main message of that dream was not 200+ prices but the fact that 150 .. 200 range will be conquered surprisingly fast. One might wonder what is the time period for surprisingly fast. My wild guess was a month but it can be longer as the dream didn't say anything about exact dates - just the fact that it would happen quickly.


OR IT COULD EXPECTEDLY STAY BELOW 150

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October 17, 2013, 04:37:44 AM
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The main message of that dream was not 200+ prices but the fact that 150 .. 200 range will be conquered surprisingly fast. One might wonder what is the time period for surprisingly fast. My wild guess was a month but it can be longer as the dream didn't say anything about exact dates - just the fact that it would happen quickly.
Do you know what would be the exact opposite of surprising?

If the space between $158.49 and $199.53 took between 30.3 and 34.5 days to cross.

It wouldn't be surprising because based on price history to date*, that's how much time it takes on average to span a tenth of a decade.



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October 22, 2013, 07:27:22 AM
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Today 7 days after this dream we can already say that we've reached 200 and indeed it was unexpectedly fast. I now believe that sometimes I see future in my dreams. Cool

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