Can we expect some active mod in India forum?

[YOSHIE]

Forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=89.0 - http://archive.is/RJPL4

In connection with the needs of the new moderators in the Indian forum, I also support this thread topic, as a means for members especially in India, whether on forums, ICOs, etc., in general or moderators in particular (new moderators, I hope you don't mind advice from thmember, for the good of the india forum for the sake of togetherness too). Because remember, members who submit criticism are answered for suggestions to be made in place to avoid spamming, fraud, scammers, etc.

I think to be able to make the Indian forum a free forum, to express opinions as long as the topics discussed are still related to the main topic of the Indian forum.

For that Moderator, in the most basic and simple sense is a person who is given the mandate to regulate the course of the forum. It is indeed difficult, at least, the mod can represent three interests: the interests of the organizing committee, understanding of the participants, and the interests of the speaker,

I regret:
For now there are still frequent misunderstandings, the moderator is considered the second caste in a forum, under the speaker. This is a wrong understanding.

The truth is:
Mod responsibilities, functions, and moderator duties are very important, so the degree is the same as the speaker, sometimes even higher, I also hope there is a solution for the Indian forum section.

[BitcoinExchangeIndia.com]

Remove topic: Where did you buy your first bitcoin from? in topic #5092398 by member #237466

May I know why the above said topic of mine was removed?

Create a new topic for it. This topic is for getting Moderator. I do not think any global moderator will look inside this topic to reply to you.

Done - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5094774.0

[manishanand]

Yes, you are correct anyone is posting anywhere due to which most of the members of India are not even looking to Indian Board. If we try to re-elect the moderator then it would be good

[Avirunes]

Yes, you are correct anyone is posting anywhere due to which most of the members of India are not even looking to Indian Board. If we try to re-elect the moderator then it would be good

I vote for the same. It's been a long time since BensonSamuel was removed from his position as moderator of Indian Board. I  also don't mind if BensonSamuel again holds of that position if the Coinsecure incident was settled to the satisfaction.

Same discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3319980.0

[JSRAW]

Not many senior or legendary Indian member hangout in Indian board. very handful member visits the local thread regularly. we surely need Indian guy who can Moderate local thread and who can understand at least 3 local languages(Tamil, Bangla, Hindi). otherwise, we need more than one.

[Heisenberg_Hunter]

The Indian board has always been a hotbed for spammers, shitposters and more importantly scammers to promote their shitty scammy exchanges and offers. Benson was active in managing the spams only during 2017 and the board became bad right back in the start of 2018. After the coinsecure hack I guess he won't just get back to the forum to moderate the board or has become quite busy lately.

May I know why the above said topic of mine was removed?

Topics similar to these generate insane amount of spam by newbies and signature spammers to fill their post count criteria. Moreover such kind of topics doesn't help anyone and is more or less a spam generation topic which must be locked after certain replies or must be trashed. Also framing this as a legimate topic is not exactly right. On top of that topics like these, bring referral spammers to share their link. These newbie referral spammers probably necro bump very old topics to share their links to earn a few pennies.

I don't really post anything on the Indian board but I am a regular visitor to merit few good posts (which I rarely find) and trash the shit present out there. From what I have identified after 9 months of reporting hundreds of posts is that

1. The board lacks few sub boards such as Altcoin Announcements, Scam Accusations and Reputation Board. These are literally important since Altcoin Announcements are being spammed in the Regional Languages Board and Altcoins(India) Board.
The regional board should be used for discussing about Btc in Regional Languages.

2. The Altcoins (India) board is full of translation spams and most of them are being completely translated by Google Translator. Apart from very few trusted translators like erikalui who do their work sincerely, almost all the other translators are using Google Translator and lack the basic language skills to translate announcements. I can bring out those guys to limelight, but I am not a native Hindi guy and my assumptions might be wrong. If they are to be caught, those translations are to be removed and they should be painted red from DT.

3. A moderator is just a volunteer and not a defacto leader of the community. Most of the Indians believe that the Mods are leaders to govern them. A MOD is only for rearranging posts in right board, prevent spams at a larger extent and nuke newbies if they believe they are plagiarising or promoting scams.

4. Indian board is populated by newbie spammers (spambies with activities not higher than 1) and there isn't literally any real discussion taking place. There are few handful of good posters (TheUltraElite, avikz, amishmanish, legendster, newIndia, deadly,botany, Joel_Jantsen) who rarely visit the board (probably being more inactive) to share their thoughts and involve in discussion.

5. Most of them lack the knowledge to indulge in discussion and talk bullshit without reading previous replies. One liner spams, duplicate posting has been common in most of the topics in Indian board.

6. Most of the topics created in the board are for promoting new scam exchanges, a futuristic spam topic which would be populated soon enough by spambies.
This forum is for discussing and expressing thoughts and not for discussing shits to spam the forum.

It is clear that an elected mod can only clear the ongoing spams but can never bring back the board as it was used to be Benson period. Clearly stating that, the board lacks good posters/ the posters have moved on to main board and doesn't want to get themselves squinted with the ongoing spams.

And we need to take into account that India is a nation where centralization plays a major role. The elected moderator must not suppress the other members through his power. He must act as a fellow member along with others and needs to bring back old good posters who were active in the Indian board during Benson era.

IMHO The board is currently controllable with reports (assuming they are getting handled quite quickly). If the situation gets out of hands i.e reports are not regularly handled then we should pressurize theymos for appointing someone.

P.S could anyone spot an instance of at least one referral code spam in the Indian Board right now? It won't be, because I along with other reporters report them quite often and they are getting handled at a faster rate. The only child board which isn't moderated/reported right now is Altcoins (India) child board. There are huge google translation spams taking place, but since I am not a native Hindi guy (but can speak,read and write Hindi to quite an extent) I may still be bad at my decisions. I am open to PM from reputed native Hindi speaking Indians if they are willing to work with me to bring out those translation spammers.

P.P.S I have been viewing this topic since the time it was posted, and was reading through all the replies. I guess this should be the right time to appoint a MOD since the translators are getting out of control.

@theymos could you give us the statistics of who reports quite often in the Indian Board?

[S_Therapist]

Not many senior or legendary Indian member hangout in Indian board. very handful member visits the local thread regularly. we surely need Indian guy who can Moderate local thread and who can understand at least 3 local languages(Tamil, Bangla, Hindi). otherwise, we need more than one.

That will be tough to get one, or 3 different mod will be required, lol. India has a lot of local languages and it will be impossible for a person to handle most of them.

[eaLiTy]

That will be tough to get one, or 3 different mod will be required, lol. India has a lot of local languages and it will be impossible for a person to handle most of them.

There is not much active threads coming up in India local board and most of my reports are sorted by global mods, overall I have 920 reports with 99% accuracy and if they find it as a hectic job they will appoint someone to share the duties. There is a lot of sorting to be done as well as new child boards are needed to clear the entire mess. It is possible to revamp everything by trashing the spam and meriting users who take an effort thereby creating a healthy local board.

[r1s2g3]

Yes, you are correct anyone is posting anywhere due to which most of the members of India are not even looking to Indian Board. If we try to re-elect the moderator then it would be good

This is true that most Indian do not visit that board because when you access the global boards that are using same language( English) then better to discuss in global boards instead of posting in local board unless your issue is local.
Moderators are not elected but appointed by theymos.

--snip--

If you need any help in Hindi, you can ask me. I am native Hindi speaker.
I suspect there might be many Indians like me that never created a single post there and rarely(or not at all) visit that board.

[r1s2g3]

Lot of grievances coming from the Indian boards.

People are posting low quality to get bonus for posting in local boards.

Translators are not doing the job properly.

It is more than year passed that Indian board is without Mod after Coinsecure hack.

[erikalui]

^ I don't know even why that signature campaign is paying for posts in the Indian section when the section is almost dead.

All my reports from the Local Indian board have been unhandled. It's almost instant now means the moment anyone reports, it is marked unhandled. 

However, translators even before never did a proper job as Benson never handled any reports. His Hindi was itself bad:

मुझे इस परिचय पढ़ना चाहिए पता है क्या करते.
यह हिन्दी में विशुद्ध रूप से चर्चा करना चाहता है जो किसी के लिए एक धागा है.

[Heisenberg_Hunter]

To be quite true, the board is transforming itself into a off-Topic Local Board.   Most of the topics started in the Indian Board are just for post count and either is unnecessary to the forum as a whole. Why do we need to know When we bought our first bitcoin?. Topics like this does generate spam and people around there are just posting  to complete their post quota per week. Since they aren't being moderated, they are free to talk shit and get away with the money.

Reports in the Indian Section should be considered for a moderator to be appointed for that board, if they aren't willing to report much they are not fit to be a moderator. theymos is the only guy who can provide us these stats!

 legenster is a good to be made a moderator, but we are not really sure he is ready to accept the position and work for that. He was literally inactive for most of the time last year, so what if he becomes inactive after he was appointed as a MOD?  Similarly with amishmanish, (a really good poster who has better knowledge on btc and forum workings) but he isn't really active from last year.

All my reports from the Local Indian board have been unhandled.

Not true. I reports around 20-30 spams and malicious links per month for the past 1 year from the Indian Board and just 2 of them were unhandled till now. One was the Unofficial Rules, and the other was the CURA Network translation.

It's almost instant now means the moment anyone reports, it is marked unhandled. 

Handling reports doesn't work that way. Initially you report a spam, they get accumulated in the unhandled queue of the global moderators (since India board doesn't have a moderator). They handle the report when they feel like the comment you gave is right for the topic/post to be trashed. For instance, if hilarious doesn't handle the report it goes to mprep and if he doesn't handle them it reaches out to rickbig. If all the 3 have rejected them, it remains in the unhandled state forever.

However, translators even before never did a proper job as Benson never handled any reports. His Hindi was itself bad:

Benson was from south and probably he wasn't good in Hindi. This is why the Altcoins(India) sub-board and the Translations weren't moderated right from the beginning.

The only solution to this could be, theymos should hire 2 forum users as Indian moderators. One should handle only the translations and other one should manage all the other Indian sub-boards. The Translator MOD should receive higher pay than the normal guy.

[erikalui]

^My unhandled reports have remained the same since a week. I don't know if there is any time limit for these reports but I stopped reporting after that as I felt no mod will handle them.

[r1s2g3]

I guess enough time has passed ,since the removal of the Indian Moderator. Theymos ,please appoint someone as a moderator in Indian subboard.

You can find the name of some recommended members here.

[Mpamaegbu]

I think this is a bigger problem that has been left unhandled even after a year it was observed and reported. There is now another thread opened about similar issue here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147676.0

Theymos should see this as a necessity and act.

[r1s2g3]

^My unhandled reports have remained the same since a week. I don't know if there is any time limit for these reports but I stopped reporting after that as I felt no mod will handle them.

After reading the  eality below reply , erikalui , I can say that "Unhandled report " in your case is soft bad.Mods are unsure whether they should take action on it or not. So it will remain unhandled forever.

Sure, you can, But if you look at the above thread , look like nobody is handling the report.

I am saying this time and again, my reports are being handled by the global moderator, not sure who that is but it is handled  .

[eaLiTy]

After reading the  eality below reply , erikalui , I can say that "Unhandled report " in your case is soft bad.Mods are unsure whether they should take action on it or not. So it will remain unhandled forever.

There are certain aspects that i have to mention here buddy since i am seeing these type of thread too often regarding a moderator. Is it possible to clear the entire mess, yes it is possible if you spend some days to clear everything up.

I will show you one aspect of my report history where one moderator passed  and market as Unhandled with my report while i did report again with detailed explanation on what to do with the post and it went through. I was planning to clean up everything but then when i saw that some of the post takes a longer time to get resolved mainly older post, i took a break from reporting older posts even though they are trash, i know i am bugging the mod with my reports  but will clean everything up in due time.

[Avirunes]

^My unhandled reports have remained the same since a week. I don't know if there is any time limit for these reports but I stopped reporting after that as I felt no mod will handle them.

After reading the  eality below reply , erikalui , I can say that "Unhandled report " in your case is soft bad.Mods are unsure whether they should take action on it or not. So it will remain unhandled forever.

Could be possible that mod acted on the basis of the report that someone already made prior to report made by you. Maybe in that case his report was  marked as "Good" and yours as "Unhandled" because yours didn't needed any action afterwards since it was already settled.

I don't usually report now but I was into it last year I guess and I still have 4-5 unhandled reports from that time. 

[jademaxsuy]

Cryptocurrency forum like bitcointalk.org may be a 10 year old but it does not mean that it could address all the problems in the forum especially when it comes to languages and the differences of the users coming from around the world.

In the case of OP still needs to be patient as the forum still growing and who knows one day theymos might consider giving every local forums to have another sub forums classified in the likes of major section of bitcointalk loke the SMT, owns a meta sub board, Technical discussions and etc.

Again, for now let us be patient. Remimder that patient is a virtue.

[Heisenberg_Hunter]

After reading the  eality below reply , erikalui , I can say that "Unhandled report " in your case is soft bad.Mods are unsure whether they should take action on it or not. So it will remain unhandled forever.

If the reports were made for an Indian language, the report gets marked as unhandled and none of the mods would act upon them since they are not really aware of the language. That's the bigger problem which lies in the Indian Board. The English reports are getting handled quite often as they are meant to be and there seems to be not much problem associated with that. We also need to note that we don't need to report posts in Off-Topic (India) unless they are promotional spams.

I am saying this time and again, my reports are being handled by the global moderator, not sure who that is but it is handled  .

mitzie or Rickbig (Not sure)