Two suggestions regarding Merit

[Raja_MBZ]

1. The process of sending merit seems a bit annoying. You've to go through another web-page and select number of merit to be sent and then send it. IMO, it'd be better if it could be sent just by clicking "+Merit" button right within the thread.

2. It'd be much better if you guys allow only one merit by the merit-sender per post. This will reduce fake-merit-exchange or fake-merit-giving. There're people sending tens of their merits to a single post which clearly seems like something fishy.

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[fxbit]

just like watch button, its open a small applet asking for how much you want to give and then click Send to complete it

[MyIota]

1. The process of sending merit seems a bit annoying. You've to go through another web-page and select number of merit to be sent and then send it. IMO, it'd be better if it could be sent just by clicking "+Merit" button right within the thread.

2. It'd be much better if you guys allow only one merit by the merit-sender per post. This will reduce fake-merit-exchange or fake-merit-giving. There're people sending tens of their merits to a single post which clearly seems like something fishy.

I agree to #1

But disagree to #2. What if a post is really good and you feel like you want to award more than one merit? I feel like posts should receive an equal amount of merits as how good that post is.

[CodyAlfaridzi]

1. The process of sending merit seems a bit annoying. You've to go through another web-page and select number of merit to be sent and then send it. IMO, it'd be better if it could be sent just by clicking "+Merit" button right within the thread.

Check out this script, made by grue https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2833350.0. It works flawlessly so far.

2. It'd be much better if you guys allow only one merit by the merit-sender per post. This will reduce fake-merit-exchange or fake-merit-giving. There're people sending tens of their merits to a single post which clearly seems like something fishy.

It won't.

[Raja_MBZ]

1. The process of sending merit seems a bit annoying. You've to go through another web-page and select number of merit to be sent and then send it. IMO, it'd be better if it could be sent just by clicking "+Merit" button right within the thread.

2. It'd be much better if you guys allow only one merit by the merit-sender per post. This will reduce fake-merit-exchange or fake-merit-giving. There're people sending tens of their merits to a single post which clearly seems like something fishy.

I agree to #1

But disagree to #2. What if a post is really good and you feel like you want to award more than one merit? I feel like posts should receive an equal amount of merits as how good that post is.

Well if the post is really good, then at least there should be a limit of merit. If not limited to one, then maybe maximum two or three. More than that number of merit just for one post by one single person doesn't really make any sense at all.

1. The process of sending merit seems a bit annoying. You've to go through another web-page and select number of merit to be sent and then send it. IMO, it'd be better if it could be sent just by clicking "+Merit" button right within the thread.

Check out this script, made by grue https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2833350.0. It works flawlessly so far.

That's exactly what I thought of.

2. It'd be much better if you guys allow only one merit by the merit-sender per post. This will reduce fake-merit-exchange or fake-merit-giving. There're people sending tens of their merits to a single post which clearly seems like something fishy.

It won't.

Any good reason?

[CodyAlfaridzi]

Any good reason?

Obviously the abusers will just send those merits one by one to each post. Like you said in OP, allowing them to send big amount at once could make it easier for others to notice the abuse.

[hilariousetc]

1. The process of sending merit seems a bit annoying. You've to go through another web-page and select number of merit to be sent and then send it. IMO, it'd be better if it could be sent just by clicking "+Merit" button right within the thread.

2. It'd be much better if you guys allow only one merit by the merit-sender per post. This will reduce fake-merit-exchange or fake-merit-giving. There're people sending tens of their merits to a single post which clearly seems like something fishy.

Yeah, there should be a way to give merit without leaving the page. Maybe clicking it multiple times moves the merit up by one each time. I disagree about only allowing one merit per post though as a person writing a very detailed and constructive guide probably deserves more merit than just someone who makes a short but informative post. Besides, it's probably easy to spot abuses when people are giving a shit load of merit out for posts that probably don't really deserve it.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Allowing only one merit per post would result in the spammers/merit abusers creating 50 posts to each receive 1 merit from their alt accounts instead of receiving 50 merit on a single post. It could paradoxically increase spam.

[rajatjain]

1. The process of sending merit seems a bit annoying. You've to go through another web-page and select number of merit to be sent and then send it. IMO, it'd be better if it could be sent just by clicking "+Merit" button right within the thread.

2. It'd be much better if you guys allow only one merit by the merit-sender per post. This will reduce fake-merit-exchange or fake-merit-giving. There're people sending tens of their merits to a single post which clearly seems like something fishy.

Regarding #2, i don't think it will solve the purpose. Let's say that one post is allowed to have only one merit per sender, but there is a other workaround which involves sending merits to all the different posts of the user just to ensure that fake merits are given. Moreover there are some high quality posts which does provide such good insights that members having huge number of merits do want to give away more for it. Fake merits will be done irrespective of a post's quality or any conditions applied.

If its a interesting/extremely good post which brings some good knowledge to the forum, even a 100 merits may be less and if its a shit post even 1 merit is way more than that person should ever get.

[vinz7229]

1. The process of sending merit seems a bit annoying. You've to go through another web-page and select number of merit to be sent and then send it. IMO, it'd be better if it could be sent just by clicking "+Merit" button right within the thread.

2. It'd be much better if you guys allow only one merit by the merit-sender per post. This will reduce fake-merit-exchange or fake-merit-giving. There're people sending tens of their merits to a single post which clearly seems like something fishy.

Yeah!! Specially for those member who have multiple accounts,  they tend to give merits to their other accounts just to meet the new requirements in joining some signature campaign, even though the post or reply is not informative still, it get merits.

[Jet Cash]

The current system seems to work for me, and it avoids making merit awards accidentally,

I agree that the max award should be reduced. I suggested a max of 2 per post per member.

[Vod]

hi sir, would you like to review my two posts?
is this worth to merit? and if not, please get directions so I can make a better post. Thank you in advance
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2195033.msg32375394#msg32375394
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2199262.msg32374920#msg32374920

What does this have to do with this topic?

Posters like you, that don't care about anyone but themselves, will not go far in this forum anymore.  :/

[TheUltraElite]

1. The process of sending merit seems a bit annoying. You've to go through another web-page and select number of merit to be sent and then send it. IMO, it'd be better if it could be sent just by clicking "+Merit" button right within the thread.

If I recall correctly, somebody posted here about this before you did and they had developed some add-on something for this. Which will lead to a popup for sending merits - not a complete new page for it.

EDIT - found it was posted in this thread already - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2833350.0

Also what you are saying implies a fixed amount of merit to every click of the +merit button. You should clarify this in OP.

2. It'd be much better if you guys allow only one merit by the merit-sender per post. This will reduce fake-merit-exchange or fake-merit-giving. There're people sending tens of their merits to a single post which clearly seems like something fishy.

Are you saying that only one person can merit a post? After that nobody can merit it? If thats what you mean to say then I disagree to this.Many threads and posts here are worth meriting and they deserve merits.

Also isnt it indirectly allowing alt-rings to get caught?

hi sir, would you like to review my two posts?
is this worth to merit? and if not, please get directions so I can make a better post. Thank you in advance
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2195033.msg32375394#msg32375394
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2199262.msg32374920#msg32374920

You forced me to to add your username to my "Ignore" list. I am sure Jet Cash will also do the same. Go away from this forum.

[Jet Cash]

You forced me to to add your username to my "Ignore" list. I am sure Jet Cash will also do the same. Go away from this forum.

I'm trying to be a bit more benign at the moment, but there still seems to be a bit of merit begging going on.

We've got some excellent technical posters here. I'd like to see an expansion in the macro-economic discussions as well, but any such thread seems to be overrun with low level posting. We are going through some massive changes at the moment - the recent announcement by Google is just one example of this. I think I'm going to discout all of the discussions on the merit system, and try to encorage quality posting about the effects of Bitcoin and crypto in the world economy.

[Vannie12]

1. The process of sending merit seems a bit annoying. You've to go through another web-page and select number of merit to be sent and then send it. IMO, it'd be better if it could be sent just by clicking "+Merit" button right within the thread.

I think this was already resolved.

2. It'd be much better if you guys allow only one merit by the merit-sender per post. This will reduce fake-merit-exchange or fake-merit-giving. There're people sending tens of their merits to a single post which clearly seems like something fishy.

I think limiting the merits given by a merit-sender should be limited, but not one merit only. I would agree with Jet Cash, I would say two is better. Posts may be classified in two- good post and great post. I think that would be enough to tell a post was indeed constructive, precise or straight to the point and indeed helpful and informative or just simply right and informative.

[Direwolve735]

2. It'd be much better if you guys allow only one merit by the merit-sender per post. This will reduce fake-merit-exchange or fake-merit-giving. There're people sending tens of their merits to a single post which clearly seems like something fishy.

It won`t reduce face-merit-giving, because nothing prevents people from clicking on the button several times for different posts and sending more than one merit. This will take more time than now, but it certainly will not stop those who send 10 or more merits. There are a lot of questions to the merit system, it is not perfect, but it's impossible to solve them all at once. I think that not much time has passed to see, analyze and correct the shortcomings of the system.

[Chaki]

Number two I guess is not right, somewhat if you really want to give your merit. To some one like giving a ten merits to someone, perhaps that person want that person with a good post to be promote to the next rank because of that single post but qualified one.. It's up to. The giver how many he give....

[MainIbem]

1. The process of sending merit seems a bit annoying. You've to go through another web-page and select number of merit to be sent and then send it. IMO, it'd be better if it could be sent just by clicking "+Merit" button right within the thread.

2. It'd be much better if you guys allow only one merit by the merit-sender per post. This will reduce fake-merit-exchange or fake-merit-giving. There're people sending tens of their merits to a single post which clearly seems like something fishy.

Merits are not renewable at a level. If you exhaust your merits on one post, you cannot reward again if you are still on the same level.
Also with exception of Jr member, no single person has enough merit points to effect a rank up. So giving more merits score to one post is harmful.
I think the forum worked on this merit system very well taken into consideration most of these fears.

[sitnikov]

1. The process of sending merit seems a bit annoying. You've to go through another web-page and select number of merit to be sent and then send it. IMO, it'd be better if it could be sent just by clicking "+Merit" button right within the thread.

2. It'd be much better if you guys allow only one merit by the merit-sender per post. This will reduce fake-merit-exchange or fake-merit-giving. There're people sending tens of their merits to a single post which clearly seems like something fishy.

1) This is most probably to prevent cases when someone may send merits by mistake. By asking for a confirmation on new page, this is prevented. Since merits are scarce, we cannot afford it to be spend by mistake.

2) I agree with this to some extent. Allowing someone to send up to 50 merit points for a single post is simthing I cannot understand. Only reason I can think is that it was intentional to catch members sending merits in bulk to alt accounts.

[uelque]

1. The process of sending merit seems a bit annoying. You've to go through another web-page and select number of merit to be sent and then send it. IMO, it'd be better if it could be sent just by clicking "+Merit" button right within the thread.

2. It'd be much better if you guys allow only one merit by the merit-sender per post. This will reduce fake-merit-exchange or fake-merit-giving. There're people sending tens of their merits to a single post which clearly seems like something fishy.

I doesn't find it annoying unless our internet connection was poor. What seems most annoying to me is when I saw a merited poor quality post. But I bit agree that there should be a limit when meriting a post to avoid or even lessen not fake merits (because it can still be given at a lower rate), rather, the ability of giving high counts of merits to poor quality post. We, cannot totally avoid giving of fake merits of someone to someone but we can avoid a high-counts of fake merits at the end.