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June 29, 2018, 08:04:09 AM
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I have a question for Manny fans or the Filipinos. This was asked by someone before but it gave no definite answer.

Manny Pacquiao is a senator in the Phillipines that would maybe make him more money, legally or illegally, than boxing. Why does he continue to do it? Is he in debt? I heard he spends and gambles too much. A common mistake among superstar athletes, I reckon.
I didn't heard that he is gambling because he is in a Christian community and he is a very religious person inside and outside of the ring. You are right that he is the Senator in the Philippines, he is preoccupied already. Maybe the reason why he is fighting is he wants to help his people in his province, Saranggani although I don't see any evidence in this.

Regarding to the fight, I don't really know how Matthysse fights but I think he will win in a decision. I am a Pacquiao fan but his speed now is not like his 5-6 years ago. Now he is slower and no news that he is training in a gym or whatsoever. Anyway, I will just watch it.

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June 29, 2018, 09:25:35 AM
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I have a question for Manny fans or the Filipinos. This was asked by someone before but it gave no definite answer.

Manny Pacquiao is a senator in the Phillipines that would maybe make him more money, legally or illegally, than boxing. Why does he continue to do it? Is he in debt? I heard he spends and gambles too much. A common mistake among superstar athletes, I reckon.

I don't think that being a Senator in the Philippines will made him a lot of money. Well, as far as gambling, there was reported that he totally turn his backs against it. I remember that there was reports that he sold all his cockfighters already. And I don't think he is in debt as well. The only reason why I think he is wants to box is that he wanted to prove that he is still the same Manny we have known, fast, quick hands and heavily handed specially his left. That's why he chooses Matthyse which is very dangerous, but if he can give us a good show then Manny will continue to fight, in my opinion.

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June 29, 2018, 11:12:35 AM
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It's gonna be a close fight, but my money is on Lucas Matthysse.

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June 29, 2018, 11:21:25 AM
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I have a question for Manny fans or the Filipinos. This was asked by someone before but it gave no definite answer.

Manny Pacquiao is a senator in the Phillipines that would maybe make him more money, legally or illegally, than boxing. Why does he continue to do it? Is he in debt? I heard he spends and gambles too much. A common mistake among superstar athletes, I reckon.

I don't think that being a Senator in the Philippines will made him a lot of money. Well, as far as gambling, there was reported that he totally turn his backs against it. I remember that there was reports that he sold all his cockfighters already. And I don't think he is in debt as well. The only reason why I think he is wants to box is that he wanted to prove that he is still the same Manny we have known, fast, quick hands and heavily handed specially his left. That's why he chooses Matthyse which is very dangerous, but if he can give us a good show then Manny will continue to fight, in my opinion.
I don’t think he will be ever in debt, because of the millions that he earns in his fights. It’s obviously that Manny is getting old and not focusing on just one thing at a time but he has never been the same before. After all, it’s going to be an interesting fight.

Everything is just a rumour, we will never know the truth unless the person announces it.

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June 29, 2018, 11:21:16 PM
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I have a question for Manny fans or the Filipinos. This was asked by someone before but it gave no definite answer.

Manny Pacquiao is a senator in the Phillipines that would maybe make him more money, legally or illegally, than boxing. Why does he continue to do it? Is he in debt? I heard he spends and gambles too much. A common mistake among superstar athletes, I reckon.

He already have lots of money prior in entering the Senate so I don't think he will earned lots of money just because of it. Take note that some of his contribution in the community are came from his own pocket.

Is he in debt? No way. He is currently the second richest senator in PH. He have lots of businesses and investments. Jinkee, his wife is known to be good at money saving and budgeting their funds. We all know that their family is poor so they are really good in terms of money saving.

Why he continue to fight? I said this before, it's hard to left the sport that makes him where he is now. It's passion and as long as he knows that his body is not yet on his limit, then he will continue. At first, I do want him to retire but now Im understand him much better.

Legacy is not what matters for him now even he will loss in his upcoming fights. He is happy doing boxing and that's it.

“I love this sport and until the passion is gone, I will continue to fight for God, my family, my fans and my country,”

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June 30, 2018, 12:45:48 AM
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I would never rule out Pacquiao from any fight and will always watch his fights, it was unfortunate to see him lose against that aussie guy last time. His 2 win streak was looking good after the Floyd fight. If he is in good physical condition he can keep doing it for a while. I see him still kicking ass past age 40 if he stays in shape and active like Hopkins. But he has a very physical style, unlike Floyd which was able to slow down the pace of a fight and perform surgery on opponents. Pac may have difficulties with young prospects.
My favorite right now is Loma, but he has to still face bigger names to become a future hall of famer.
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June 30, 2018, 02:14:06 AM
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I would never rule out Pacquiao from any fight and will always watch his fights, it was unfortunate to see him lose against that aussie guy last time. His 2 win streak was looking good after the Floyd fight. If he is in good physical condition he can keep doing it for a while. I see him still kicking ass past age 40 if he stays in shape and active like Hopkins. But he has a very physical style, unlike Floyd which was able to slow down the pace of a fight and perform surgery on opponents. Pac may have difficulties with young prospects.
My favorite right now is Loma, but he has to still face bigger names to become a future hall of famer.

@bbc.reporter, it looks like @harizen has already point out the reason why Pacquiao is still fighting and would love to continue doing it.

@thejaytiesto, that lost to Jeff Horn is just a fluke, anyone who have watch it will not agree to the judges. We really like Pacquaio to fight, however, father time is really catching up on him. His fighting style will be a big factor specially if you are aging as compare to Floyd who is very defensive, while Pacquiao loves to bang. Loma and Crawford are the new cash cow of boxing.

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I would never rule out Pacquiao from any fight and will always watch his fights, it was unfortunate to see him lose against that aussie guy last time. His 2 win streak was looking good after the Floyd fight. If he is in good physical condition he can keep doing it for a while. I see him still kicking ass past age 40 if he stays in shape and active like Hopkins. But he has a very physical style, unlike Floyd which was able to slow down the pace of a fight and perform surgery on opponents. Pac may have difficulties with young prospects.
My favorite right now is Loma, but he has to still face bigger names to become a future hall of famer.

@bbc.reporter, it looks like @harizen has already point out the reason why Pacquiao is still fighting and would love to continue doing it.

@thejaytiesto, that lost to Jeff Horn is just a fluke, anyone who have watch it will not agree to the judges. We really like Pacquaio to fight, however, father time is really catching up on him. His fighting style will be a big factor specially if you are aging as compare to Floyd who is very defensive, while Pacquiao loves to bang. Loma and Crawford are the new cash cow of boxing.
Loma vs Crawford would be epic, but Loma vs Mickey more realistic. Crawford is too big for Loma, but so was Loma for Rigo and the fight happened... I think Loma could bulk 10lbs and fight Crawford at 140 but he may not take the risk.
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July 01, 2018, 04:07:29 AM
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It's gonna be a close fight, but my money is on Lucas Matthysse.

I am not the person that do not want Pacquiao to fight any bouts but he has his age now. He might be still strong as hell but his reflexes, his speed will not be the same as in the past. They might be close at their ages but I think from the last fight Pacquiao has, I guess it is time for him to hang the gloves and start to focus on giving his full service for the people as he is a Senator of our country.

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July 01, 2018, 05:48:14 AM
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I don't want to badmouth or insult Pacquiao, but I think it may be better for him to concentrate on his career in politics. He is already 40 years old and I am afraid that the fight against Matthysse may be one-sided.

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July 01, 2018, 09:07:13 AM
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I don't want to badmouth or insult Pacquiao, but I think it may be better for him to concentrate on his career in politics. He is already 40 years old and I am afraid that the fight against Matthysse may be one-sided.

I would agree except that we don't know what's on Manny Pacquiao's mind specially that boxing is his first love to say the least. And I'm pretty sure that he is doing good in politics as well but the fight against Matthysee will not be one-sided. He wanted to redeem himself against the lost to Jeff Horn that he is really training hard this time to prove to everyone that he still has it, to compete at top level boxer and be the champion once again.

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July 01, 2018, 09:26:06 AM
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I would never rule out Pacquiao from any fight and will always watch his fights, it was unfortunate to see him lose against that aussie guy last time. His 2 win streak was looking good after the Floyd fight. If he is in good physical condition he can keep doing it for a while. I see him still kicking ass past age 40 if he stays in shape and active like Hopkins. But he has a very physical style, unlike Floyd which was able to slow down the pace of a fight and perform surgery on opponents. Pac may have difficulties with young prospects.
My favorite right now is Loma, but he has to still face bigger names to become a future hall of famer.

@bbc.reporter, it looks like @harizen has already point out the reason why Pacquiao is still fighting and would love to continue doing it.

@thejaytiesto, that lost to Jeff Horn is just a fluke, anyone who have watch it will not agree to the judges. We really like Pacquaio to fight, however, father time is really catching up on him. His fighting style will be a big factor specially if you are aging as compare to Floyd who is very defensive, while Pacquiao loves to bang. Loma and Crawford are the new cash cow of boxing.
Loma vs Crawford would be epic, but Loma vs Mickey more realistic. Crawford is too big for Loma, but so was Loma for Rigo and the fight happened... I think Loma could bulk 10lbs and fight Crawford at 140 but he may not take the risk.

I agree. Loma vs Crawford would be epic except that Crawford is already campaigning at the 140-147 lbs already. I don't think that Loma can go as high as Welter at this time. Mickey been calling out Loma if I'm not mistaken so let's see if those 2 fight. Its more realistic as you have said, and if the money is right, we might see them fight in 2019.

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July 02, 2018, 02:39:26 AM
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People really gets old and everything would be just in a history.
I've missed the time when everyone here in the Philippines are all excited to watch the upcoming fights of Pacquiao. All the family members easily recognizes the date and who's the opponent but now, turns like even my father and uncles have no idea that there would be a Pacquiao vs Matthysse fight. Well, I couldn't blame them because there are now less fight/preparation coverage on the national TV and newspapers unlike in the past.

Still, I'd love to see Pacman wins the fight. I hope that he will end his career with no consecutive defeats  Wink.
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July 02, 2018, 05:52:39 AM
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People really gets old and everything would be just in a history.
I've missed the time when everyone here in the Philippines are all excited to watch the upcoming fights of Pacquiao. All the family members easily recognizes the date and who's the opponent but now, turns like even my father and uncles have no idea that there would be a Pacquiao vs Matthysse fight. Well, I couldn't blame them because there are now less fight/preparation coverage on the national TV and newspapers unlike in the past.

Still, I'd love to see Pacman wins the fight. I hope that he will end his career with no consecutive defeats  Wink.

Yes. It used to be where all Filipinos are eagerly waiting for the next Pacquiao fan and every man in the streets knows when is the scheduled fight and even have their whole neighbourhood tune in and the world stops when he fought. And even my Father who is a big Manny fans wouldn't missed a fight. Sadly though he just passed away. Manny is no longer the cash cow and others have taken the spot from him. But we will never forgot how he transcends the boxing world specially for every Filipinos in the world.

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July 02, 2018, 06:50:10 AM
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I don't want to badmouth or insult Pacquiao, but I think it may be better for him to concentrate on his career in politics. He is already 40 years old and I am afraid that the fight against Matthysse may be one-sided.

The Dude is done but i guess he can still sell a fight and make good money from his fame even though he might end up loosing so i think so long as he doesn't see anything wrong in tarnishing his reputation by loosing fights then we should leave him to make his money. It's good business dude!
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July 02, 2018, 08:30:48 AM
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I don't want to badmouth or insult Pacquiao, but I think it may be better for him to concentrate on his career in politics. He is already 40 years old and I am afraid that the fight against Matthysse may be one-sided.

The Dude is done but i guess he can still sell a fight and make good money from his fame even though he might end up loosing so i think so long as he doesn't see anything wrong in tarnishing his reputation by loosing fights then we should leave him to make his money. It's good business dude!

That's the sad reality of boxing these days all for money, they seem to make matches like these to milk the money out of people but then considering their careers are short don't even know if one should blame them. Maybe he's going to use money to invest heavily in his political career since his boxing days are heavily outnumbered.
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July 02, 2018, 09:24:10 AM
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I guess this is an interesting fight, there is this possibility that Manny Pacquiao may kiss the canvass with a heavy puncher as Matthysse.  Remember how Marquez knocked down Pacquiao?  This might be the fight Matthysse may watch and study.  Aside from that Manny is not as prime as he was when he fought Marquez.

A very interesting fight indeed. Will manny really kiss the canvas like what happen during the marquez fight?, well to tell you frankly in my opinion for the past fights of manny and marquez i can consider that punch as a lucky one. So basically lucas might well have that luck in his punch.

What i like about this fight tho is that lucas is really a taugh guy and he can really stand in front of manny which makes it so exciting.

Even tho that lucas is the current champion it seems that he is the underdog on this fight

I could still remember the lucas molina fight so manny should have to be really careful on this one
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July 02, 2018, 12:36:29 PM
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I guess this is an interesting fight, there is this possibility that Manny Pacquiao may kiss the canvass with a heavy puncher as Matthysse.  Remember how Marquez knocked down Pacquiao?  This might be the fight Matthysse may watch and study.  Aside from that Manny is not as prime as he was when he fought Marquez.

A very interesting fight indeed. Will manny really kiss the canvas like what happen during the marquez fight?, well to tell you frankly in my opinion for the past fights of manny and marquez i can consider that punch as a lucky one. So basically lucas might well have that luck in his punch.

What i like about this fight tho is that lucas is really a taugh guy and he can really stand in front of manny which makes it so exciting.

Even tho that lucas is the current champion it seems that he is the underdog on this fight

I could still remember the lucas molina fight so manny should have to be really careful on this one

I don't think that Manny will kiss the canvas again with this Lucas fight. The Marquez KO was a lucky punch that put him in the canvass for good. But want I like about this fight is that Lucas is really still at his prime, IMHO and will be dangerous as any other opponent of money. I think he is one of the hardest puncher Manny has face in recent memory. The Molina vs Mattysse was voted as fight of the year 2014/2015 if I'm not mistaken. But if you are really interested in Lucas previous fights, just look at his fight with Victor Postol (Manny's sparring mate before) and see that he tends to start very quick but when he is hit, he slows down that's why Postol KO him.

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July 02, 2018, 03:49:33 PM
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I don't want to badmouth or insult Pacquiao, but I think it may be better for him to concentrate on his career in politics. He is already 40 years old and I am afraid that the fight against Matthysse may be one-sided.

The Dude is done but i guess he can still sell a fight and make good money from his fame even though he might end up loosing so i think so long as he doesn't see anything wrong in tarnishing his reputation by loosing fights then we should leave him to make his money. It's good business dude!

That's the sad reality of boxing these days all for money, they seem to make matches like these to milk the money out of people but then considering their careers are short don't even know if one should blame them. Maybe he's going to use money to invest heavily in his political career since his boxing days are heavily outnumbered.
We knew that boxing is about fight of course with title and money into it but i don't believe its for money. Because he already have a very good life and boxing is even a big risk. If it is for money we will going to see a bad fight. I don't want to judge him for whatever reason he is still fighting its not our business and its his life.

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July 02, 2018, 11:56:00 PM
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I don't think that Manny will kiss the canvas again with this Lucas fight. The Marquez KO was a lucky punch that put him in the canvass for good. But want I like about this fight is that Lucas is really still at his prime, IMHO and will be dangerous as any other opponent of money. I think he is one of the hardest puncher Manny has face in recent memory. The Molina vs Mattysse was voted as fight of the year 2014/2015 if I'm not mistaken. But if you are really interested in Lucas previous fights, just look at his fight with Victor Postol (Manny's sparring mate before) and see that he tends to start very quick but when he is hit, he slows down that's why Postol KO him.

the fight of postol and lucas I think happens first before lucas fights molina. You are right that at that time lucas might really get exhausted maybe because of his conditioning practice fails. However on the fight between molina he still really shows how a champion really are. That made him really dangerous but as i have said i think that he is the underdog for this fight because on my theory manny can knock him out if not once maybe twice. Now the exciting part here is if he manage to show that heart of a champion again or will manny can overpower  him
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