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July 09, 2018, 02:45:03 AM |
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@Boafeng. That news article is hype. Do not trust anything positive written on the fight before any fight. You will go home very disappointed hehehe. Remember Floyd versus Manny, or Floyd versus Conor McGregor? Both fights were hyped to be super fights, they pleased many people, but ended failing to impress the real fans.
It's all part of the promotion of the upcoming fight. You don't write negative news before a fight or else no one will watch. We can only hear negative news after the fight. Remember Floyd versus Manny, or Floyd versus Conor McGregor? Both fights were hyped to be super fights, they pleased many people, but ended failing to impress the real fans.
The fight between Floyd and Manny did not need an advertising as their names are popular enough even to non-fight fans all over the world. That fight was not hyped, this upcoming fight maybe. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Yes, hype the fight and tell no one of the hidden shoulder injury that Manny had before the fight because it is negative news. Also, for a fight that did not need advertising because of the big names, it was a very uneventful. It was overhyped.
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July 09, 2018, 10:06:59 AM |
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The Dude is done but i guess he can still sell a fight and make good money from his fame even though he might end up loosing so i think so long as he doesn't see anything wrong in tarnishing his reputation by loosing fights then we should leave him to make his money. It's good business dude!
Even if Senator Manny can still fill arenas, that doesn't mean its not the time to hang up the gloves yet. What Manny's camp should look at is his capacity to fight, can he still fight younger boxers and win. Manny is already a Legend and a future hall of famer. I would rather see him hang up the gloves while he is still on very good shape, than retire because someone knocked him out cold. I am supporting Pacquiao against Matthysse in the upcoming match on 15 July because pacquiao is in good body language and can defeat any player comes in his way. It is the rules not to have a perception to consider your opponent not a loser of a poor competent and I believe that Mathysse can upset in this game. It is boxing and my choice is Pacquiao in this game, what is yours?
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July 09, 2018, 09:15:40 PM |
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If Lucas Matthysse is not able to knockout Manny and fight will be via decision, more likely fight will go to Manny Pacquiao. Lucas Matthysse needs to score a lot in this fight and no back pedaling or running around, Manny Pacquiao will really hunt him down around the ring. Manny Pacquiao is out to prove that he still have a few fights left in him before he retires.
If he wins, he probably won't retire, that's the problem with older boxers, they don't give up. So odds are even if Pacman wins, he will still have another fight or two until he is inevitably bested, and probably KO'd by the better, younger man. Hopefully he has the sense to see this is the road all Boxers take, and manages to avoid the mistake though. I personally doubt it though, he looks like a guy that won't back down due to age.
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July 09, 2018, 10:16:24 PM |
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If Lucas Matthysse is not able to knockout Manny and fight will be via decision, more likely fight will go to Manny Pacquiao. Lucas Matthysse needs to score a lot in this fight and no back pedaling or running around, Manny Pacquiao will really hunt him down around the ring. Manny Pacquiao is out to prove that he still have a few fights left in him before he retires.
If he wins, he probably won't retire, that's the problem with older boxers, they don't give up. So odds are even if Pacman wins, he will still have another fight or two until he is inevitably bested, and probably KO'd by the better, younger man. Hopefully he has the sense to see this is the road all Boxers take, and manages to avoid the mistake though. I personally doubt it though, he looks like a guy that won't back down due to age. I think he's renting his record by taking these unnecessary fights. Hasn't paceman had enough if he's fighting for the money? I still think he will be better off focusing on politics than the ring. He's done and shouldn't let boxing retire him.
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July 09, 2018, 10:21:51 PM |
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Alright Manny's in Malaysia now. If he wins, he probably won't retire, that's the problem with older boxers, they don't give up.
I wouldn't judge him too early unless he said something new just like before, he told to the media that he'll start retiring soon but look there's fight with Horn and now with Matthysse. He has too many careers and who knows if he chose to focus with any of it like his political or jump for being a coach or a pastor or so.
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July 09, 2018, 11:04:17 PM |
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Alright Manny's in Malaysia now. If he wins, he probably won't retire, that's the problem with older boxers, they don't give up.
I wouldn't judge him too early unless he said something new just like before, he told to the media that he'll start retiring soon but look there's fight with Horn and now with Matthysse. He has too many careers and who knows if he chose to focus with any of it like his political or jump for being a coach or a pastor or so. Same thoughts.! Out of all recent careers as of now you would really be confused on which field he would tried to focus on but i bet he wont easily leave boxing yet this is the thing who lift him up and make a trademark on his name same goes with financial aspect. We cant really judge on what he would tend to do and you are right its been talked about retirement about his last fight with Horn but now we are seeing him fighting once again. This would be a good match up basing on opponents current statistics.
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July 10, 2018, 07:30:17 AM |
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Ever heard Victor Postol of Ukraine? The only fighter to score a knockout win over Matthysse. The man behind Postol's success is a Marvin Somodio, Filipino. Longtime deputy of Pacquiao’s former trainer, Freddie Roach. Somodio, who also gained a wealth of experience by being part of Pacquiao’s training team via Roach beginning 2009, said he sees Pacquiao scoring a decisive win over Matthysse.
Somodio said Postol isn't that strong puncher but manage to knockout Matthysse. Somodio said if Matthysse can't get Pacquiao after 4rounds, Manny will get him and won't reach 12rounds.
I'm very confident with this fight that Pacquiao will prove us once again that he still can fight.
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July 10, 2018, 08:58:07 AM |
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Although Manny Pacquiao past his prime and he reached his 40's which is seems to be too old for getting into this kind of sports but his hand speed and power slowly diminished but still Manny Pacquiao still has an edge to win this fight i am not rooting for a knock out but still an expectation of unanimous decision will be the outcome of this game.
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July 10, 2018, 09:19:08 AM |
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@harizen. When was the last time Manny Pacquiao was knocked out by an opponent, and what are the chances that Lucas Matthysse can do it? It might make the fight more entertaining to bet on Lucas knocking out Manny and wait for that to happen hehehe.
That was Lucas Matthysse's aim so we just need to wait if he can really showed it on the ring. No way we can know how much is the chances. Possibilities are always there. Remember the time when Juan Manual Marquez hit that fatal blow to Pacquaio that made the latter kiss the floor? That was unexpected so in here, there is also chances. Try to browse for sports booking sites as who knows they might opened a bet for Knockout option.
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July 10, 2018, 01:12:36 PM |
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@harizen. When was the last time Manny Pacquiao was knocked out by an opponent, and what are the chances that Lucas Matthysse can do it? It might make the fight more entertaining to bet on Lucas knocking out Manny and wait for that to happen hehehe.
That was Lucas Matthysse's aim so we just need to wait if he can really showed it on the ring. No way we can know how much is the chances. Possibilities are always there. Remember the time when Juan Manual Marquez hit that fatal blow to Pacquaio that made the latter kiss the floor? That was unexpected so in here, there is also chances. Try to browse for sports booking sites as who knows they might opened a bet for Knockout option. That chances are too small and often called as lucky punch, i think it because also with Marquez attributes of being a counter puncher. Winning by knockout especially to knockout Manny is very hard thing to do. We know how Manny is giving the tempo of the fight and he doesn't want to be in the corner of the fight he is always giving aggressiveness so the chances are small especially if the fighter or Matthysse is not a good puncher.
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July 10, 2018, 01:26:04 PM |
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Ever heard Victor Postol of Ukraine? The only fighter to score a knockout win over Matthysse. The man behind Postol's success is a Marvin Somodio, Filipino. Longtime deputy of Pacquiao’s former trainer, Freddie Roach. Somodio, who also gained a wealth of experience by being part of Pacquiao’s training team via Roach beginning 2009, said he sees Pacquiao scoring a decisive win over Matthysse.
Somodio said Postol isn't that strong puncher but manage to knockout Matthysse. Somodio said if Matthysse can't get Pacquiao after 4rounds, Manny will get him and won't reach 12rounds.
I'm very confident with this fight that Pacquiao will prove us once again that he still can fight.
WOW! nice source wherever you got this. But I wouldn't be confident of saying that this is going to be an easy and sure win for MP, Matthysse probably learned from that lose and trained hard for this fight. Few more days to go, everyone's excited.
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July 10, 2018, 11:18:06 PM |
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Although Manny Pacquiao past his prime and he reached his 40's which is seems to be too old for getting into this kind of sports but his hand speed and power slowly diminished but still Manny Pacquiao still has an edge to win this fight i am not rooting for a knock out but still an expectation of unanimous decision will be the outcome of this game.
A slow Manny Pacquiao is faster than an average boxer as they say so we can see here that Manny has an advantage in terms of speed. Speed is power, the volume of punches that Manny throws in a single round evidently diminished in his last fights but still he has advantage over Matthysse. The only thing that worries me here is the lucky punch that might hit Manny but i think Manny would be careful enough not to fall to the same fate he suffer against Juan Manuel Marquez. Manny Pacquiao should win this fight as this is a preparatory for his retirement fight against Crawford and should he lose this one then it would be goodbye boxing for him.
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July 11, 2018, 03:36:23 AM |
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Just a couple of days before the actual fight. I'm sure that the Philippines is already preparing PPV shows all over. hhahaha. They all love Manny and even though he lost some of his luster, Filipinos still loves to watch his fight live in every bar and even in a cinema. That's how Filipino loves him because he really one specially boxer and its going hard to be duplicated again.
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July 11, 2018, 05:01:44 AM |
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I wanted to share you a good article coming from Bradley himself. I’ve always said that Manny Pacquiao’s B game is better than a lot of guys’ A game,” Bradley said during ESPN’s broadcast Saturday night from Fresno, California. “Still today, he still has that speed and he still has that punching power. I think he’s still available and ready to fight any of these guys in the division, and I don’t think anybody’s afraid of him right now. “Well, the young ones will always let you know when it’s time to hang ‘em up,” Bradley said. “So until a young one reminds Manny Pacquiao that this is the boxing business and you better be on your A game, I think he should continue on doing whatever makes him happy.” https://www.boxingscene.com/bradley-pacquiao-still-matches-up-well-with-any-welterweight--129822At least as a boxer, and fan, he makes a unbiased comment about how good Manny is up to this point of his career. @bisdak40, it would be fitting if Manny can fight Crawford. Again it will be like ODLH vs Manny, wherein the young Manny demolished Oscar and somewhat passed him the torch as the next cash cow wish Manny did. Crawford has been touted as the next big thing in boxing and Bob Arum's cash cow now so I have no doubt that the fight can happen in the future.
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July 11, 2018, 06:11:30 AM |
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Just a couple of days before the actual fight. I'm sure that the Philippines is already preparing PPV shows all over. hhahaha. They all love Manny and even though he lost some of his luster, Filipinos still loves to watch his fight live in every bar and even in a cinema. That's how Filipino loves him because he really one specially boxer and its going hard to be duplicated again.
Excited to watch how this fight will going to end, Pacman's die hard fans will surely bet all in for him and even there's already a question with his capability to knock down his opponents believers will still entrust their fate for him inside the gambling arena, till the last round or the announcement of the referee before things will end for this two respected boxers.
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July 11, 2018, 06:33:12 AM |
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Just a couple of days before the actual fight. I'm sure that the Philippines is already preparing PPV shows all over. hhahaha. They all love Manny and even though he lost some of his luster, Filipinos still loves to watch his fight live in every bar and even in a cinema. That's how Filipino loves him because he really one specially boxer and its going hard to be duplicated again.
Yes. Some nearby bars are offering a live telecast now. Not just for Manny but there are Filipinos on undercard too. I have a ticket pass honestly on one of those but unfortunately I like to watched at home because I can't make it to travel by that early in the morning. It's weekend so restday and I want to stay at home. There are lots of free streaming sites available just as before. I just need to find a server early as slots are limited. Back to topic, Pacquiao and Matthysee are still on weight maintaining training as part of preparation for the upcoming weigh-in on Saturday. Both believed they will be in for weight limit and I guess too that there will be no problem.
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July 11, 2018, 06:57:41 AM |
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Just a couple of days before the actual fight. I'm sure that the Philippines is already preparing PPV shows all over. hhahaha. They all love Manny and even though he lost some of his luster, Filipinos still loves to watch his fight live in every bar and even in a cinema. That's how Filipino loves him because he really one specially boxer and its going hard to be duplicated again.
Yes. Some nearby bars are offering a live telecast now. Not just for Manny but there are Filipinos on undercard too. I have a ticket pass honestly on one of those but unfortunately I like to watched at home because I can't make it to travel by that early in the morning. It's weekend so restday and I want to stay at home. There are lots of free streaming sites available just as before. I just need to find a server early as slots are limited. Back to topic, Pacquiao and Matthysee are still on weight maintaining training as part of preparation for the upcoming weigh-in on Saturday. Both believed they will be in for weight limit and I guess too that there will be no problem. Probably not duplicated but admired and hope to be like him or better. He made Philippines proud because of the achievements that he had. He just had his prime days and we will see on the next match on how he is going to fight. It's fun to travel with Manny fighting here in the Philippines because almost everyone watches him here and there is no traffic. Less crime, that's what others say. Haha ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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July 11, 2018, 10:39:22 AM |
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Just a couple of days before the actual fight. I'm sure that the Philippines is already preparing PPV shows all over. hhahaha. They all love Manny and even though he lost some of his luster, Filipinos still loves to watch his fight live in every bar and even in a cinema. That's how Filipino loves him because he really one specially boxer and its going hard to be duplicated again.
Yes. Some nearby bars are offering a live telecast now. Not just for Manny but there are Filipinos on undercard too. I have a ticket pass honestly on one of those but unfortunately I like to watched at home because I can't make it to travel by that early in the morning. It's weekend so restday and I want to stay at home. There are lots of free streaming sites available just as before. I just need to find a server early as slots are limited. Back to topic, Pacquiao and Matthysee are still on weight maintaining training as part of preparation for the upcoming weigh-in on Saturday. Both believed they will be in for weight limit and I guess too that there will be no problem. Probably not duplicated but admired and hope to be like him or better. He made Philippines proud because of the achievements that he had. He just had his prime days and we will see on the next match on how he is going to fight. It's fun to travel with Manny fighting here in the Philippines because almost everyone watches him here and there is no traffic. Less crime, that's what others say. Haha ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I think there's still a lot of hype surrounding the fights and I just came from a landbase casino and I see they are offering bets. I totally forgot to put one because I wanted to get home because of the traffic!!! (Only in the Philippines). ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I guess many Filipinos will still watch him eventhough that we has somewhat aged and lost some of his power. Expect less crimes as everyone, even criminals momentarily stop what they are doing to watch the fight. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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July 11, 2018, 04:09:15 PM |
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The Dude is done but i guess he can still sell a fight and make good money from his fame even though he might end up loosing so i think so long as he doesn't see anything wrong in tarnishing his reputation by loosing fights then we should leave him to make his money. It's good business dude!
Even if Senator Manny can still fill arenas, that doesn't mean its not the time to hang up the gloves yet. What Manny's camp should look at is his capacity to fight, can he still fight younger boxers and win. Manny is already a Legend and a future hall of famer. I would rather see him hang up the gloves while he is still on very good shape, than retire because someone knocked him out cold. I am supporting Pacquiao against Matthysse in the upcoming match on 15 July because pacquiao is in good body language and can defeat any player comes in his way. It is the rules not to have a perception to consider your opponent not a loser of a poor competent and I believe that Mathysse can upset in this game. It is boxing and my choice is Pacquiao in this game, what is yours? What makes Manny Pacquiao interesting is his play style, which you may find aggressive. His age does not hinder him from performing fights that people want to watch, unlike modern boxing which primarily relies on the scoring system (although I that should be the case but typically it's boring). My only concern is about his endurance, stamina and power since aging inevitably makes someone weak. Not to mention, his reflexes and dodging abilities tend to get slower as time passes by but with his experience, I believe that he will win this fight. Again, win or lose he will make a big bang of a buck. Personally, even that we consider him as the people's champion, I am worried about his performance as a Senator in the country. People voted him in order to lead (although his qualifications are underwhelming relative to other senators) and fights like these tend to make him absent from most of the plenary sessions in the Senate. Hopefully after this fight, he dedicates most of his time into serving and voicing out the concern of people in our country.
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July 12, 2018, 01:34:14 PM |
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@Boafeng. That news article is hype. Do not trust anything positive written on the fight before any fight. You will go home very disappointed hehehe. Remember Floyd versus Manny, or Floyd versus Conor McGregor? Both fights were hyped to be super fights, they pleased many people, but ended failing to impress the real fans.
Floyd vs Manny was good from a very technical perspective if you enjoy defensive boxing... Floyd neutered Manny, he did what he had to do, it was Manny's job to be the aggressor, who was expecting Floyd to take huge risks? he hasn't been doing that for a while. He made Manny swing at air and miss many shots, Floyd was scoring surgically as usual. It may have been a bit tedious at some points and missing some action but I wasn't expecting anything much different than what we saw. Floyd vs Connor was a fun match, I enjoyed both the hype and the actual match even as a "real boxing fan".
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