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March 16, 2018, 04:37:23 PM
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This is ridiculous, similar to kwuckduck insanity but with even less effort, at least kwukduck is hilarious.

This is exactly how a bitter panic seller looks like. These guys obviously sold the bottom, and are now trying to get the price as low as possible to get back in. Luckily, they have no weight in the market... I don't know why they even bother spamming these FUD news.

Just ignore the FUDsters, we are going to all time high this year, buy the dip.
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March 16, 2018, 04:40:22 PM
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This is ridiculous, similar to kwuckduck insanity but with even less effort, at least kwukduck is hilarious.

This is exactly how a bitter panic seller looks like. These guys obviously sold the bottom, and are now trying to get the price as low as possible to get back in. Luckily, they have no weight in the market... I don't know why they even bother spamming these FUD news.

Just ignore the FUDsters, we are going to all time high this year, buy the dip.

Confirmed.

And, as every time such obvious shills appear, the price starts recovering.

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March 16, 2018, 05:02:59 PM
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He seems to pop up everywhere spewing something claiming the end of bitcoin and encouraging everyone else to sell. The thing that these guys don't realise is it's so obvious, why else would they be here trying to encourage everyone to sell if they truly believed it was the end of bitcoin? Because they're just nice guys and want to protect us from losing our money - fat chance that's true.

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March 16, 2018, 05:18:47 PM
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You may be right, but I don't see anything terrible about these themes. How can a temporary ban in a single US city cause panic? In the second article we are talking about tokens. We have been seeing that all governments are struggling with the ICO. This is not news. Now really all attention will be drawn to the G20 summit. For experienced users of cryptocurrencies is very difficult to make a panic.
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March 16, 2018, 05:22:02 PM
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He has been doing that because he is SHORT on BTC. His whole purpose is to reduce BTC price. He should be banned as such.
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March 16, 2018, 05:24:46 PM
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I miss TEH DUCK. It was more fun at that time.
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March 16, 2018, 05:38:36 PM
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Haha, my own topic, you're too kind. But honestly, why is a bearish user, shorting bitcoin, not allowed to post news he finds interesting? You only want positive news but hey, that's kinda hard these days. You're more than welcome though to post positive news once it arrives. To each their own perspective, right?

He has been doing that because he is SHORT on BTC. His whole purpose is to reduce BTC price. He should be banned as such.

Well if that was my goal, wouldn't it make more sense to mail those stories to the whales? I'm not sure how these handfuls bitcoin holders on this forum are supposed to decrease the price. Or are you long more than 1 bitcoin? Yesterday night somebody was pushing 500+ btc bids on bitfinex, somebody took one of them out, I think it was 365 bitcoins in 1 single trade. I highly doubt people like that read this forum and think 'wow this news article is BAD, now I'm going to sell", or do you honestly believe it works like that?
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March 16, 2018, 05:49:56 PM
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Guess you missed the 2500 BTC buy in one 1 minute candle swoop this morning on bitfinex alone..  Followed up by another! People with that kind of money don't buy a depreciating asset for sure.  Now imagine that on all exchanges.
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March 16, 2018, 05:55:21 PM
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Guess you missed the 2500 BTC buy in one 1 minute candle swoop this morning on bitfinex alone..  Followed up by another! People with that kind of money don't buy a depreciating asset for sure.  Now imagine that on all exchanges.

Well my point is, people like that make the price. And I HIGHLY doubt people like that form their opinions based on what they read on this forum LOL. Those < 1 bitcoin people hold here, who cares about that? I find it really funny people get all worked up here because someone is posting news they don't like.
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March 16, 2018, 05:56:23 PM
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I miss TEH DUCK. It was more fun at that time.


I truly miss the DUCK. He/she was very sporty and provided much needed humor to this forum. :-)
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March 16, 2018, 05:57:01 PM
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Guess you missed the 2500 BTC buy in one 1 minute candle swoop this morning on bitfinex alone..  Followed up by another! People with that kind of money don't buy a depreciating asset for sure.  Now imagine that on all exchanges.

Well my point is, people like that make the price. And I HIGHLY doubt people like that form their opinions based on what they read on this forum LOL. Those < 1 bitcoin people hold here, who cares about that? I find it really funny people get all worked up here because someone is posting news they don't like.

Its INTERESTING that you only find negative news INTERESTING!
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March 16, 2018, 05:57:32 PM
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Seriously, you need to scan your FUD news for facts before posting them.  You just post every crap story you can find and it's pretty stupid.. Anyone that cares can just look on a news site.. there are a ton of them.
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March 16, 2018, 05:58:13 PM
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Its INTERESTING that you only find negative news INTERESTING!

Well it's kinda hard these days to post positive news. What did I miss?
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March 16, 2018, 05:59:20 PM
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Seriously, you need to scan your FUD news for facts before posting them.  You just post every crap story you can find and it's pretty stupid.. Anyone that cares can just look on a news site.. there are a ton of them.

You can also ignore me or just don't read my "FUD" news as you call it. That's how democracy works. But you want to stop me posting alltogether because you're convinced that whales read my thread and base their trades on my news, haha, am I right or what
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March 16, 2018, 06:03:03 PM
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I miss TEH DUCK. It was more fun at that time.


I truly miss the DUCK. He/she was very sporty and provided much needed humor to this forum. :-)

Do not fear, we have not seen the last of him, of that I am sure. Just before the next bull run begins he will return to signal through his FUD that it's buy time for us.

Haha, my own topic, you're too kind. But honestly, why is a bearish user, shorting bitcoin, not allowed to post news he finds interesting? You only want positive news but hey, that's kinda hard these days. You're more than welcome though to post positive news once it arrives. To each their own perspective, right?

He has been doing that because he is SHORT on BTC. His whole purpose is to reduce BTC price. He should be banned as such.

Well if that was my goal, wouldn't it make more sense to mail those stories to the whales? I'm not sure how these handfuls bitcoin holders on this forum are supposed to decrease the price. Or are you long more than 1 bitcoin? Yesterday night somebody was pushing 500+ btc bids on bitfinex, somebody took one of them out, I think it was 365 bitcoins in 1 single trade. I highly doubt people like that read this forum and think 'wow this news article is BAD, now I'm going to sell", or do you honestly believe it works like that?

Well the whales are the ones trying to manipulate the smaller fishies and they need their foot soldiers to do that for them, you're one of those guys. You're right in saying you're entitled to your own opinion, if you wish to spend your time spreading negative news for whatever reason then you go ahead.


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March 16, 2018, 06:03:36 PM
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Well the whales are the ones trying to manipulate the smaller fishies and they need their foot soldiers to do that for them, you're one of those guys. You're right in saying you're entitled to your own opinion, if you wish to spend your time spreading negative news for whatever reason then you go ahead.
Ok so you're a 'foot soldier'. Now tell us, how many bitcoins do you hold, foot soldier? Please post a screenshot, I'd LOVE to know how YOU are going to impact the bitcoin price with your trades. This should be fun
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March 16, 2018, 07:15:35 PM
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Haha, my own topic, you're too kind. But honestly, why is a bearish user, shorting bitcoin, not allowed to post news he finds interesting? You only want positive news but hey, that's kinda hard these days. You're more than welcome though to post positive news once it arrives. To each their own perspective, right?

He has been doing that because he is SHORT on BTC. His whole purpose is to reduce BTC price. He should be banned as such.

Well if that was my goal, wouldn't it make more sense to mail those stories to the whales? I'm not sure how these handfuls bitcoin holders on this forum are supposed to decrease the price. Or are you long more than 1 bitcoin? Yesterday night somebody was pushing 500+ btc bids on bitfinex, somebody took one of them out, I think it was 365 bitcoins in 1 single trade. I highly doubt people like that read this forum and think 'wow this news article is BAD, now I'm going to sell", or do you honestly believe it works like that?

You are free to post whatever you want, but it is too obvious that you are shorting. Me personally, I admit the price can either up or down, even if im bullish long term.

The problem is when people like you think they can predict the future and point to news as being obviously bearish news, when they are subjected to interpretation. For me, regulatory news for instance, means bullish news. Even a ban on bitcoin is bullish, since it means bitcoin is working as the subversive anti-censorship tool that it is, and governments are taking it serious enough to ban it.

So bearish news are relative, if you think shorting bitcoin is a good idea at any rate... good luck with that, because all shorters get eventually rekt.
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March 16, 2018, 07:34:29 PM
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Just ignore the FUDsters, we are going to all time high this year, buy the dip.
I've noticed that guy that keeps on debating with useless arguments and question about things that he wants to start with the discussions that he is creating.

I thought he is a coiner that supports bitcoin but it looks like he's not. But his posts are totally subjective and advantageous especially the market now is bearish.

I truly miss the DUCK. He/she was very sporty and provided much needed humor to this forum. :-)
Where he is? Yeah he's a very sporty one and I don't know why his posts are really giving everyone an assurance that a pump will come.

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March 16, 2018, 08:29:57 PM
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I just think the pros and cons in expressing this opinion is common. However if both are equally well to build that's amazing, different ways of viewing doesn't mean the enemy let's take the good side only. If sjefdeklerk says something it's best to make it a benchmark because i'm sure there's something we can take from his opinion

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March 16, 2018, 08:36:27 PM
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Big question that I would like answered.  Why would he bother coming here if he wasn't a Bitcoin enthusiast?   Only reason I'm here is because I believe Bitcoin is the new digital currency of the future.  Thought this way since 2012 and still do.   

I don't go to the turnip forums because frankly I don't care for turnips.  Maybe if someone paid me, I'd go to the turnip forums and say they suck.
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March 16, 2018, 09:24:16 PM
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Big question that I would like answered.  Why would he bother coming here if he wasn't a Bitcoin enthusiast?   Only reason I'm here is because I believe Bitcoin is the new digital currency of the future.  Thought this way since 2012 and still do.   

I don't go to the turnip forums because frankly I don't care for turnips.  Maybe if someone paid me, I'd go to the turnip forums and say they suck.

You don't have to believe in something to make a lot of money from it.
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March 16, 2018, 10:23:45 PM
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And?
Remember all that stuff about free speech and other bs like that?

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It's his choice...we want to waste his time this way, let him be.
If people get influenced by him it's no big deal, they would have panicked anyhow at the first sign.


For me, regulatory news for instance, means bullish news. Even a ban on bitcoin is bullish, since it means bitcoin is working as the subversive anti-censorship tool that it is, and governments are taking it serious enough to ban it.

So bearish news are relative, if you think shorting bitcoin is a good idea at any rate... good luck with that, because all shorters get eventually rekt.

To be honest, I don't like attitudes like these a lot more than fudsters as blinkered horses are not my favorites either.
So let's just ignore any piece of news that we don't like cause it's better to live in a bubble.
Not my style!

I don't go to the turnip forums because frankly I don't care for turnips.  Maybe if someone paid me, I'd go to the turnip forums and say they suck.

Well, there are guys with no kids and no nephew that hang around forums where children posts......
Juts as there are Russians who haven't seen once the statue of liberty but have made thousands of posts about the US and they will tell you they know far better how life there is.



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Well the whales are the ones trying to manipulate the smaller fishies and they need their foot soldiers to do that for them, you're one of those guys. You're right in saying you're entitled to your own opinion, if you wish to spend your time spreading negative news for whatever reason then you go ahead.
Ok so you're a 'foot soldier'. Now tell us, how many bitcoins do you hold, foot soldier? Please post a screenshot, I'd LOVE to know how YOU are going to impact the bitcoin price with your trades. This should be fun

No, you're the foot solder for the whales who like to crash the price so they can profit. Without people like you to spread FUD then they'd be less successful. How many bitcoin I hold is completely irrelevant.

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To be honest, I don't like attitudes like these a lot more than fudsters as blinkered horses are not my favorites either.
So let's just ignore any piece of news that we don't like cause it's better to live in a bubble.
Not my style!


If you don't understan why a ban on bitcoin means bitcoin is on the right track maybe you don't know what Bitcoin is to begin with. Why do you think satoshi added a newspaper article on the genesis block about banks in the brink of collapse? Exactly.

The nature of Bitcoin is always a challenging one against the status quo. If they aren't fighting back, Bitcoin is not important enough. If they have to resort of a ban, they are showing impotence.

May I remind you what happened quickly after the latest biggest ban news?



Exactly, it triggered a dip... then a big bullrun.
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Well the whales are the ones trying to manipulate the smaller fishies and they need their foot soldiers to do that for them, you're one of those guys. You're right in saying you're entitled to your own opinion, if you wish to spend your time spreading negative news for whatever reason then you go ahead.
Ok so you're a 'foot soldier'. Now tell us, how many bitcoins do you hold, foot soldier? Please post a screenshot, I'd LOVE to know how YOU are going to impact the bitcoin price with your trades. This should be fun

No, you're the foot solder for the whales who like to crash the price so they can profit. Without people like you to spread FUD then they'd be less successful. How many bitcoin I hold is completely irrelevant.

Haha without me bitcoin won't crash ok Mr delusional good luck with your 0.002 btc position, may you get rich some day
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I am starting to get really sad - why people can't understand that big corporations (Google, Facebook) or nations cannot control crypto.
So what if Google will ban crypto ads? These ads were most likely linked to shitcoins and stuff, who cares.
If we keep cold blood and disregard all obvious attempts to destroy crypto - we could have reach more than $100k by now.
Instead we live in fear that someone in the future will tell us that BTC is worthless and all brainwashed people will belive in that.
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Well the whales are the ones trying to manipulate the smaller fishies and they need their foot soldiers to do that for them, you're one of those guys. You're right in saying you're entitled to your own opinion, if you wish to spend your time spreading negative news for whatever reason then you go ahead.
Ok so you're a 'foot soldier'. Now tell us, how many bitcoins do you hold, foot soldier? Please post a screenshot, I'd LOVE to know how YOU are going to impact the bitcoin price with your trades. This should be fun

No, you're the foot solder for the whales who like to crash the price so they can profit. Without people like you to spread FUD then they'd be less successful. How many bitcoin I hold is completely irrelevant.

Haha without me bitcoin won't crash ok Mr delusional good luck with your 0.002 btc position, may you get rich some day

I realise more each time why it is that you reach your conclusions and that's because you are incapable of reading what is actually in front of you. Let me bold something for you. Work on your reading.

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To be honest, I don't like attitudes like these a lot more than fudsters as blinkered horses are not my favorites either.
So let's just ignore any piece of news that we don't like cause it's better to live in a bubble.
Not my style!


If you don't understan why a ban on bitcoin means bitcoin is on the right track maybe you don't know what Bitcoin is to begin with. Why do you think satoshi added a newspaper article on the genesis block about banks in the brink of collapse? Exactly.

The nature of Bitcoin is always a challenging one against the status quo. If they aren't fighting back, Bitcoin is not important enough. If they have to resort of a ban, they are showing impotence.

May I remind you what happened quickly after the latest biggest ban news?

Exactly, it triggered a dip... then a big bullrun.

That was not a ban against BTC. It was a ban against some exchanges that from my point of view should have stayed dead and never come back to life.
And the bull run was precisely because of that.

If you really think that a ban on Bitcoin from one of the western members of the G7 would be a good sign, then probably no argument will ever convince you that BTC isn't something magical that is the answer for everything.
No real country (I discard Morocco, Ecuador or Nepal from such list) has taken serious stances against Bitcoin.
If one will move against it, and I pray from all my heart it will never happen, what we have seen till now would look like a "La Tomatina" compared to what will happen.


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and again a new post from this guy to create fud.
ban this guy...
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Guess you missed the 2500 BTC buy in one 1 minute candle swoop this morning on bitfinex alone..  Followed up by another! People with that kind of money don't buy a depreciating asset for sure.  Now imagine that on all exchanges.

Well my point is, people like that make the price. And I HIGHLY doubt people like that form their opinions based on what they read on this forum LOL. Those < 1 bitcoin people hold here, who cares about that? I find it really funny people get all worked up here because someone is posting news they don't like.

Your point is ..... You have no point! At least if you want to spread your FUD, no one is stopping you but do it with some little bit of dignity. The truth is that, a lot of newbies/investors and those who find the idea of blockchain technology interesting, could come here to get some information and your FUD apparently does not help in anyway.

The essence of this forum is to share ideas, discuss the best way forward and to let people understand that this is real and the future, not to scare them away, and since you already assumed that those who are here do not have much to affect the market, then why spread the FUD anyway?
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look at his post history. only fud posts.
he needs to be removed from this forum.
guys like him scare new investors off.
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March 22, 2018, 10:00:43 AM
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Its INTERESTING that you only find negative news INTERESTING!

Well it's kinda hard these days to post positive news. What did I miss?
That is because you are not taking your time to find some. Ever imagined throwing a discussion on Lightening network, probably on the good things to look forward to from the G20 summit and so on and so forth.

The reason you have decided to spam negative ones is because you apparently know it will end up giving you some attention, not like you really want to add anything tangible to the community anyway. However you want to play your card, good for you, but at least find a way to do it without embarrassing yourself most of the time.
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It seem's that FUD user has an alt here in forum , check the merit history ( HERE ) ktabb which is full member sent merit to "sjefdeklerk - jr member " 3 times . even though the post is just a news from other site and totally fake. Priority? Or maybe ktabb is a Fud also . By the way perhaps spreading fuds here in forum isn't against the rules unless if those accounts is really connected. Lol
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and again a new post from this guy to create fud.
ban this guy...

No reason for a ban. Sooner or later he just will give up.
As it was mentioned, his attempts to influence the users here is pretty lame and weak.
What he is doing is a waste of time. He may be one of the guys who sold way too early or is just one of these so called nocoiners who are just bitter about themselves because they never bought in although knowing about BTC since a few years.
Just ignore that guy. You have a button for that!
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and again a new post from this guy to create fud.
ban this guy...

No reason for a ban. Sooner or later he just will give up.
As it was mentioned, his attempts to influence the users here is pretty lame and weak.
What he is doing is a waste of time. He may be one of the guys who sold way too early or is just one of these so called nocoiners who are just bitter about themselves because they never bought in although knowing about BTC since a few years.
Just ignore that guy. You have a button for that!

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=1474678;sa=showPosts

This is ridiculous, similar to kwuckduck insanity but with even less effort, at least kwukduck is hilarious.

This is exactly how a bitter panic seller looks like. These guys obviously sold the bottom, and are now trying to get the price as low as possible to get back in. Luckily, they have no weight in the market... I don't know why they even bother spamming these FUD news.

Just ignore the FUDsters, we are going to all time high this year, buy the dip.
Grin I thought I have been the only one who has noticed this. This particular account does not even have a single thing to offer than to open bullshit topics to display how embittered he is. I wonder why anyone will ever pay attention to someone like that in the first place who apparently has no single idea of anything he says and does not even make any single meaning at all. Apparently, he has been tagged as the current FUDster with no brain Grin ... Good for him!
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March 24, 2018, 01:01:26 PM
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and again a new post from this guy to create fud.
ban this guy...

No reason for a ban. Sooner or later he just will give up.
As it was mentioned, his attempts to influence the users here is pretty lame and weak.
What he is doing is a waste of time. He may be one of the guys who sold way too early or is just one of these so called nocoiners who are just bitter about themselves because they never bought in although knowing about BTC since a few years.
Just ignore that guy. You have a button for that!
A very wise position. I'm not a supporter of various radical methods of dealing with accounts. There is always the possibility of error. Every person's opinion is subjective and cannot claim the truth. Everyone can ignore opinion of the opponent but to demand shutdown of the account it is excessive. Someone might not like your account tomorrow.
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March 24, 2018, 05:41:39 PM
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He seems to pop up everywhere spewing something claiming the end of bitcoin and encouraging everyone else to sell. The thing that these guys don't realise is it's so obvious, why else would they be here trying to encourage everyone to sell if they truly believed it was the end of bitcoin? Because they're just nice guys and want to protect us from losing our money - fat chance that's true.
He is just a vexed soul who ended up screwing himself as a result of his stupidity and now is looking for someone to join him to suffer the same pains he is presently suffering for selling lower and probably at loss only to end up trying to pick the pieces. I am actually happy a lot of people already perceive him to be this way and at least, maybe he will finally decide to drop his bullshit account that has nothing to offer.

In my opinion these kinds of people have nothing to offer to the community except to keep embarrassing themselves and sharing things that absolutely makes no sense and I actually implore any newbie to do the same. After all, if everyone places him on ignore list, he will be busy writing his own post and answering them by himself with no one paying attention to him.
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