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March 17, 2018, 07:26:03 PM
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Something a little special and rare on offer Smiley

A full set of gold Escudos from the 1500's during King Phillip II of Spain's reign, also known as Gold Doubloons of pirate treasure legend fame.

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Philip II (Spanish: Felipe II; 21 May 1527 – 13 September 1598) was King of Spain from 1556 and of Portugal from 1581.
From 1554 he was King of Naples and Sicily as well as Duke of Milan. During his marriage to Queen Mary I (1554–58),
he was also King of England and Ireland. From 1555, he was lord of the Seventeen Provinces of the Netherlands.
Known in Spanish as "Philip the Prudent" (Felipe el Prudente), his empire included territories on every continent then known to Europeans.
During his reign, Spain reached the height of its influence and power. This is sometimes called the Golden Age. The expression,
"the empire on which the sun never sets," was coined during Philip's time to reflect the extent of his dominion.

Gold 1 Escudos
Gold 2 Escudos (Doubloon)
Gold 4 Escudos (Double Doubloon)

At this point in history the 8 Escudos (piece of 8 ) did not exist, inflation and the large denomination came under a later king.

These coins are hammered coins not milled like modern coins.  The quality of strike was not considered important at the time of creation and only the weight of the coin was considered crucial.  The Doubloon and Doubloon however both have excellent quality strikes with a nicely centred image.

Coins were sourced from well known dealers in Paris and Spain.

Coins on offer:

Gold 4 Escudos cob type (hammered coin)
Double Doubloon of pirate fame.
King Phillip II.
Dated 1556 to 1598
Mint: Sevilla
Weight:  13,50 g
diameter:  32 mm

Gold 2 Escudos cob type (hammered coin)
Doubloon of pirate fame.
King Phillip II.
Dated 1556 to 1598
Mint: Toledo (very rare mint)
Weight:  6.70 g
diameter:  26 mm

Gold 1 Escudos cob type (hammered coin)
King Phillip II.
Dated 1556 to 1598
Mint: Unknown
Weight:  3.37 g
diameter:  18 mm






An excellent opportunity to fullfill a childhood pirate fantasy Smiley

Price for the complete set (Price is firm ): )


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March 17, 2018, 09:59:42 PM
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those are just plain sexy

I saw some silver ones when I was growing up in Florida, they were found at the beach near Saint Augustine
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March 17, 2018, 10:14:38 PM
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those are just plain sexy

I saw some silver ones when I was growing up in Florida, they were found at the beach near Saint Augustine

The gold coins were called Escudos (or doubloons in slang), the silver ones were called Reales.  Main advantage of gold is that sea water does not corrode them unlike the silver reales which are heavily corroded when recovered from ship wrecks.

1 Escudo used to be worth 16 Reales.
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March 17, 2018, 11:19:19 PM
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Very interesting! I do love me some old pirate gold... would you take some more photos of the coins? Close up front and back of each
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March 17, 2018, 11:34:26 PM
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Very interesting! I do love me some old pirate gold... would you take some more photos of the coins? Close up front and back of each

No probs, night time here in the UK so not the best lighting for good quality pics.

Will grab some pics in the morning on a sheet of paper with my username + date on it too.
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March 18, 2018, 01:16:42 AM
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Very cool collection you have assembled.

Like dazedfool suggests, if you could get some close up photos showing the details that would be great.

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March 18, 2018, 02:50:02 PM
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A stack of Gods!
Hope you got that somewhere very safe!

Well done, and thanks for sharing!

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March 19, 2018, 07:53:14 PM
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Cannot see price of it picture isn't working.
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March 19, 2018, 07:55:14 PM
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Cannot see price of it picture isn't working.

Showing for me, try refreshing the page.

current price = 1.085BTC for the full set.
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March 20, 2018, 04:47:57 PM
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Are those funky coin holders / glass domes also included ?
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Are those funky coin holders / glass domes also included ?

Yes, all included.

p.s. also in the UK which makes life easier if you are interested.
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March 21, 2018, 02:15:39 AM
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awesome collection.  Do you buy precious metals for investment purposes or just for collecting?  I'm curious where the best place to buy precious metals are with the exception of places like Apmex and Ebay.
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awesome collection.  Do you buy precious metals for investment purposes or just for collecting?  I'm curious where the best place to buy precious metals are with the exception of places like Apmex and Ebay.

I am in the UK and usually buy gold from Hatton Garden Metals, Atkinsons, Baird&Co.  For silver I use a Belgium dealer - goldsilver.be as we get with 20% VAT on silver in the UK.

I buy mainly as an investment so its gold as close to spot as possible e.g. Krugerannds, Britannias, bars.  After I hit a decend amount of OZ's I then started buying a few collecable pieces to keep things interesting like the Doubloons, proof 1oz gold Queens Beasts series, and the Pistrucci sovereign set.

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I am in the UK and usually buy gold from Hatton Garden Metals, Atkinsons, Baird&Co.  For silver I use a Belgium dealer - goldsilver.be as we get with 20% VAT on silver in the UK.


As a Belgian I can vouch for goldsilver.be, that's also my go-to place for bullion. Great prices in euro and fast and decent shipping!

Great coins you are selling by the way, not my specialty so no idea about the actual value, but love the historic value!
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March 21, 2018, 12:42:36 PM
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I have had a few interested people but they are struggling to work out the value as its a bit of a specialist subject.

A good resource is here you can compare pricing:
http://www.pirategoldcoins.com/

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March 21, 2018, 02:49:39 PM
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those are just plain sexy

I saw some silver ones when I was growing up in Florida, they were found at the beach near Saint Augustine

The gold coins were called Escudos (or doubloons in slang), the silver ones were called Reales.  Main advantage of gold is that sea water does not corrode them unlike the silver reales which are heavily corroded when recovered from ship wrecks.

1 Escudo used to be worth 16 Reales.

cool stuff, yep the silver ones had to have a crust removed from them, saw a few more for sale in a Dive shop display case when I was a kid pretty sure those were gold. They inspired me to look for treasure at a young age.  When I was a little older ( 13/14) I made a metal detector from Radio Shack parts lol... I never did find much on the beach's ( a small silver ring) but it was a lot of fun back then just to look and check out Bikini's.

Bought a nice Garrett GTI detector back in 2006 tried to get my kids interested in treasure hunting.... nope lol ... they did like Archery though Smiley
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