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March 19, 2018, 10:40:39 AM |
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https://ibb.co/eWmKSxhttps://ibb.co/fA7R7xI'm estimate the mining profit using % avg. diff increased last year to estimated the future diff so the mining profit will be less as you mine . The price of coins will not be calculated because you can hold coin instead of mining if the price of mining equipment is too expensive. Market price is the estimate today price. The estimate value of ASIC is Salvage Value + Mining profit in 12 months The estimate value of GPU is Normal GPU price (Before mining rush) - Depreciation + Mining profit in 12 months + Mining price premium(which almost dropped to zero ) This price still not calculated the risk of New series of GPU, Big mining farm dump GPU price, broken card, New algo ASIC shrink market cap of mining GPU, New ASIC series kick off old one So.. what do you think am I too pessimistic. who estimate the price differently we could discuss Thank you Hope this topic will not be deleted cause you know.. someone might lose benefit.
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kriskarthik
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March 19, 2018, 01:03:32 PM |
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I think the price bubble is only due to demand vs supply as all those GPUs are manufactured as batches. Once new batches of GPU hit the market the price will come down gradually.
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March 19, 2018, 01:09:51 PM |
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I think the price bubble is only due to demand vs supply as all those GPUs are manufactured as batches. Once new batches of GPU hit the market the price will come down gradually.
I agree. Similar thing happened last year with AMD near april. Also, near june-july 2017 Nvidia slowly started to decrease prices. |
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March 19, 2018, 01:54:13 PM |
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I think this one could be worse, last year Mining card premium price was not included
But this one could be worse if price still stable and new series come out as a result current series might not be profitable
Since there a lot of mining GPU more than last series in that case.. big mining farm will dumping GPUs to gamers which has a lot less demand this is what i'm afraid of .
How likely do you think this could happens.
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March 19, 2018, 01:58:55 PM |
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I'm sure prices will increase when btc will be $15k  |
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March 19, 2018, 02:13:56 PM |
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It is certainly bubble.
I stopped buying cards once they reached 1000-1200eur for 1080ti, depending on model.
Return would be greater than 1year and difficulty is increasing rapidly.
Nicehash is killer of new coins ....
Maybe one needs to mine solo too.
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March 19, 2018, 02:26:42 PM |
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I was planing to mine coins like ETH months ago but after seeing the prices I was like stun by how much it were. I did have high end desktop for gaming but it didn't cost much up to $2K but this time I can see some GPUs worth more than $1K already. Its not that big if it can mine like 1ETH a day then I won't mind but it it can't then this sure isn't worth.
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March 20, 2018, 12:11:10 AM |
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I was planing to mine coins like ETH months ago but after seeing the prices I was like stun by how much it were. I did have high end desktop for gaming but it didn't cost much up to $2K but this time I can see some GPUs worth more than $1K already. Its not that big if it can mine like 1ETH a day then I won't mind but it it can't then this sure isn't worth.
oh buy 6k worth of rx 580's and earn a 550 coin each day makes it worth it to you . Mining was not that good. on its best days the rx580 was 300 bucks so 300 for 6k and 8 bucks a day for each card so maybe 160-200 a day for a month or 2 was the best it was. |
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March 20, 2018, 12:48:50 AM |
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It is certainly bubble.
I stopped buying cards once they reached 1000-1200eur for 1080ti, depending on model.
Return would be greater than 1year and difficulty is increasing rapidly.
Nicehash is killer of new coins ....
Maybe one needs to mine solo too.
I wouldn't recommend solomining unless you personally control large amounts of hashrate on the chain you want to solo on, as variance will be extreme if you only have a couple rigs in your control. Card prices will come down and are coming down even right now; there's a 1080 MSI Duke in stock for $679 on Newegg and it's been at that price for two hours now. Things will only slip down unless mining profitability goes up again. |
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ivakar
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March 20, 2018, 04:09:30 AM |
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The gpus pries were high before the mining kicks in, yes, after that they become even higher and that premium is still there, but I know the demand for cards are falling, cause profits from mining are falling as well
So, I expect that prices for cards will come back to last spring values, unless bitcoin hit 25k level within a month...
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March 21, 2018, 07:17:00 AM |
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halo my friend,
don't worry be happy. You should keep the graphics card (GPU) in order not to get damaged and maintain it. You can sell it again; the price will not go down. I believe it
looks at current prices last year and current prices.
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March 21, 2018, 08:34:14 AM |
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The gpus pries were high before the mining kicks in, yes, after that they become even higher and that premium is still there, but I know the demand for cards are falling, cause profits from mining are falling as well
So, I expect that prices for cards will come back to last spring values, unless bitcoin hit 25k level within a month...
The mining is not so profitable at the moment. But after the new wave of pump, it will be profitable again. |
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March 21, 2018, 08:39:35 AM |
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The market sets prices. If ppl ready to buy at high prices - why not sell?
Higher prices only due to limited supply and high demand.
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March 21, 2018, 11:36:12 AM |
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The gpus pries were high before the mining kicks in, yes, after that they become even higher and that premium is still there, but I know the demand for cards are falling, cause profits from mining are falling as well
So, I expect that prices for cards will come back to last spring values, unless bitcoin hit 25k level within a month...
The mining is not so profitable at the moment. But after the new wave of pump, it will be profitable again. Mining is ALWAYS profitable unless you are selling your coins at current prices and directly moving to $.. This is LONG race.. There are no short cuts. Stay in the race or this is not for you  |
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March 21, 2018, 12:56:57 PM |
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The gpus pries were high before the mining kicks in, yes, after that they become even higher and that premium is still there, but I know the demand for cards are falling, cause profits from mining are falling as well
So, I expect that prices for cards will come back to last spring values, unless bitcoin hit 25k level within a month...
The mining is not so profitable at the moment. But after the new wave of pump, it will be profitable again. Mining is ALWAYS profitable unless you are selling your coins at current prices and directly moving to $.. This is LONG race.. There are no short cuts. Stay in the race or this is not for you That's just it. Even if the market cap goes to the very bottom - people will still mine. Why? Because they saw the folks who were mining 1-5 Eth a day back in 2015-2016. I dont know when GPU prices will ever go down, maybe if PoW became obsolete, or if Nvidia and AMD started making products segregated (like mining specific GPUs with high calculation speeds and no video output for miners, and the conventional for Gamers). The only issue is that Nvidia and AMD are loving this. GPU's are obviously intentionally scarce and overpriced. I just wish some underdog can stop this monopoly with quality GPU's at affordable prices. |
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March 21, 2018, 01:10:29 PM |
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The market sets prices. If ppl ready to buy at high prices - why not sell?
Higher prices only due to limited supply and high demand.
Perfect demand and supply theory buddy. We can invest on mining if you are able to bear the electricity without trouble from the electricity boards. This is hard issue for every miners. Since the demand is increased on all the Asian countries for GPU cards. All the market is selling cards higher price when we compare it on last year and now. Hopefully there is no people to come inside mining field bro. |
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March 21, 2018, 01:43:28 PM |
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It depends on how you see it. It can only be a bubble if miners sell their bought GPUs from last year because mining is not that profitable anymore. As I see it the reason it the prices of GPUs are inflated is because the manufacturers cannot keep up with the demand the same goes for DDR4 RAM last year and the retailers just want to profita in the situation. Surely the price is starting to stabilize we just have to wait.
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March 21, 2018, 02:25:29 PM |
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It depends on how you see it. It can only be a bubble if miners sell their bought GPUs from last year because mining is not that profitable anymore. As I see it the reason it the prices of GPUs are inflated is because the manufacturers cannot keep up with the demand the same goes for DDR4 RAM last year and the retailers just want to profita in the situation. Surely the price is starting to stabilize we just have to wait.
There are people who hate the GPU mining because of increased difficulty rate most of the altcoins. We need to wait for some months to see what will be this time happen on mining altcoins. When we all worry about difficulty and electricity. Its a funny to see the person worry about RAM cost comparing with the last year and now bro. Yes GPU rate has bubbled. |
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March 23, 2018, 11:33:22 AM |
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There are people who hate the GPU mining because of increased difficulty rate most of the altcoins. We need to wait for some months to see what will be this time happen on mining altcoins.
When we all worry about difficulty and electricity. Its a funny to see the person worry about RAM cost comparing with the last year and now bro.
Yes GPU rate has bubbled.
this is the truth about my friend, he started mining in January 2018, we know that month the coin price is very high, but now he is very worried and complaining with the price of ALT coins. lol |
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