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October 23, 2013, 02:23:13 PM
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Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkroadUNcensored/comments/1p0ogt/time_to_let_the_cat_out_of_the_hat/

EDIT MAJOR UPDATE!- It looks like most, if not all, of the news leaks are coming from a single reporter at Gawker named "ADRIAN CHEN." a recent email by another user to Adrian Chen, asking for information about his sources, was replied back "fuck off. Adrian Chen is known for pretending to have cancer, to teach reddit a lesson. A few other news links, including the claim of a "jail house interview" came from Ryan Mac at Forbes. Chen and Mac are apparently good buddies......headshot
Please spread this as much as possible!


For any Law enforcement or fellow hackers who wish to dive deeper, the IP of "nod" aka jmk aka silkroad admin is 24.17.153.200
How hard would it be to blackmail a government official or bribe them? History shows time and time again, not very. Most government employees are underpaid and will jump at a chunk of money tossed to them.

Any Ice.gov sites with "doclib" in the url should be ignored as likely backdoors, and proven very easy to alter these documents.
JMK is know to own a lamp server which he uses to rotate IP's while running multiple instances of an automation reddit script in many different VM windows to game the vote system.

Where does one even start when uncovering one of the largest digital scams of our lifetime? It’s going to be tough, but here we go…


I have one rule and one rule only; while you read my confession; remember that $80,000,000 is on the table. Think about what you can buy, and who you can buy, with that kind of money.


I first realized something under handed was going on when I read this post from a Silk Road Moderator telling a new account to FE for “SuperTrips.” SuperTrips was a known “selective scammer” notorious for only sending out a 25% of actual orders.
Super trips offered a “no FE, and reship or 100% refund if tracking does not show delivered.” What shocked many on Silk Road was, when SuperTrips was taken to the resolution center, he would refuse to show tracking, or any evidence he even shipped a package, and support would award him 100% of the transaction.

Any other vendor had to produce tracking or proof of shipment; otherwise a 50/50 split was always in place. Upon investigation, I found that the only accounts who actually ever received anything from SuperTrips, were accounts who ONLY bought from SuperTrips and ALWAYS had a 100% success rate. They are what many refer to as “shill” accounts; fake accounts whose only purpose is to falsely inflate the credibility of a vendor. SuperTrips was not a real vendor, and he was not located in Germany. He was a Scam account propped up by the Silkroad staff for extra revenue, he never actually shipped anything. His score was always so 100% because, again he was extra revenue for Silkroad, and they had the key to the ratings meter.

I can safely claim that many of the “major” scammers were actually nothing more than silkroad staff. They always waited days before even thinking about banning an apparent scammer raking in thousands, but had no problem banning several small time vendors the second they stepped out of line. Thurgood is another great example. The official ruling on Thurgood, after making away with $56,000 was “he was never banned; he was demoted for out of escrow transactions”


In the very last days leading up to the “server seizures” very blatant and obvious cash grab starts to occur by staff. People were suddenly finding their BTC were completely drained, and not just a couple of people, many people reported accounts with funds zeroed out, pins not working, and accounts just plain not working. After doing the math, the “customer support” section of the forums received a 85% increase in pins, coins, and account problems. It would seem someone wanted to stop any amount of BTC from leaving the site.


On the day of the seizure, the Silkroad URL redirects you to a seizure notice. a very strange seizure notice.

You see, never once in the history of FBI site seizures has the** FBI ever put a sites logo in the background of a seizure notice.** What was even more interesting, was that the notice used a high quality logo unable to be found by anyone else despite an hour of searching, until a random user popped in and said “I found it in 2 minutes by using Google.“ No, you did not. I spent 30 minutes staring at Google images, and I found nothing.
Another confusing aspect of this whole elaborate scam, is the media’s acceptance of obvious photo shopped pictures for show casing DPR’s “normal life”

The mouth which comes from this photo is one shameful mistake.


the lighting and shadowing on this heavily modified picture is all fucked up.

Nearly every single photo of ross you find on google has a huge amount of Photoshop mistakes in it.

WTF is going on with his ears!

But by far, the largest support for my argument is the youtube video “Interview with Rene Pinnell and Ross Ulbricht.” Go to the video, open it in full screen, and stare, STARE at Ross’s nose. His nose is constantly being edited.

I believe I know whose face they are using as a template. After hours of searching one night, I connected this person with an account belonging to one of the staff members of the silk road. Notice the ears, and the nose. This photo was taken months ago, so I believe whoever this person may be may have gotten a gastric lap band surgery or something. Evidence of this is how chunky "ross" is in the interview video. He also helped Jmkogut move.

Jmkogut, until very recently (actually hours after I questioned him about that picture) was head moderator for r/silkroad, before deleting his account. A quick history search of the r/silkroad sub shows Jmk opening the sub two weeks before Silkroad actually opened. A week into the opening the sub was falsely banned by a Reddit admin because he thought they were using the actual sub to set up deals. A few days later Jmkogut cleared it up with admins over in r/request and the sub was unbanned. I first become watchful of jmkogut one day while we were talking about my suspicions that the admins over at the road were scammers in IRC, he mentioned something about using AMAZON cloud servers as a proxy, interested I did a quick IP check and sure enough, he was talking to me from a amazon hosted server.

When JM joined IRC he always had a bot running on a different server. The bot was pretty much a automation bot to run the many of his several different IRC channels he hosted. I asked him “so you have two separate servers? What does the IRC bot run off of?” jmkogut replied back “he’s on a old computer on my home network.” Being the curious cat I always am, I checked the location of the servers IP; Bellingham, WA.
Huh.
Wait...

The recently arrested “heroin” dealer nod, who, if many of you will remember, was heavily protected by DPR when a poster tried to expose his attempted “cocaine cartel” to the general forums, sent out all of his packages from Bellingham WA… What are the odds?

The same odds that if you call the jail that DPR is being held at, the staff will inform you the current listing for Ross Ulbricht is false, and bugged into the system and cannot be removed. Try it. I will leave you with this. The FBI has not made a single official comment via any of their press channels. Many claim because of the government shut down. The FBI media relations team has updated nearly every day before, and since the arrest of dpr. On the day of DPRS arrest, the San Francisco FBI office put out a official new release proclaiming, “Former Vice President of Finance Pleads Guilty to Fraud Scheme and Tax Evasion.”

Several updates since the day of his arrest and not a single one mention or hints about silk road, or about even arresting the largest drug kingpin in the world.
What would you do for $80,000,000?

FYI, sheepsmarket and BMR are owned by the same group of scammers that owned silkroad. More on that when I open my new web page dedicate to exposing silkroad.
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October 23, 2013, 02:30:47 PM
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Interesting, but I swear that I've seen documents pulled from the gov's website showing the charges and what not. Not ice.gov, but the courts themselves.

Always in for a good conspiracy theory, if it's true or not.

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October 23, 2013, 02:34:19 PM
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I think I've seen a complaint - is that the same as an arrest warrant? (I honestly have no idea what I am talking about here!)

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October 23, 2013, 02:41:05 PM
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I think I've seen a complaint - is that the same as an arrest warrant? (I honestly have no idea what I am talking about here!)

Even if they aren't the same, an official complaint alleging all of the stuff, sure is a huge step to their story being much more than a conspiracy theory.

The other thing, is the story has been picked up across huge publisher's across the globe. You don't imagine that a single one of them didn't do any due diligence? And if one of them happened to and it was complete bs, that they wouldn't publish that all other articles are bs?

Again, fun conspiracy theory. But for me, I need a little more umph behind it before I start getting a hard on. You can't just say so.

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October 23, 2013, 02:54:37 PM
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Well I certainly have the high quality Silk Road logo and I found it on google.
I had an obsession with the idea of a totally free market and their choice of logo I thought was amazing.
So I set out to hunt down the logo to use for my BitcoinTalk account default pic. I googled Silk Road Logo
but wasn't able to find a high quality image. So what I did instead was type in man on camel stencil, or man on camel,
man riding camel, and sure enough after about 10 minutes of searching I was able to find a stenciled image of a man riding a camel.
 It happened to be the same image that the Silk Road uses just not colored in green. I went ahead and colored it in on Photoshop at school and am
now using it as my default as you all know. The image I grabbed from google was a very high quality .png file and it wouldn't pixelate whether it was
enlarged or minimized.


That's the real truth behind my Silk Road image.
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October 23, 2013, 02:54:57 PM
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 Cheesy Agreed!

I thought it made an interesting read though and some others might enjoy it; hopefully I dropped it in the right sub-forum though.

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Well I certainly have the high quality Silk Road logo and I found it on google.
I had an obsession with the idea of a totally free market and their choice of logo I thought was amazing.
So I set out to hunt down the logo to use for my BitcoinTalk account default pic. I googled Silk Road Logo
but wasn't able to find a high quality image. So what I did instead was type in man on camel stencil, or man on camel,
man riding camel, and sure enough after about 10 minutes of searching I was able to find a stenciled image of a man riding a camel.
 It happened to be the same image that the Silk Road uses just not colored in green. I went ahead and colored it in on Photoshop at school and am
now using it as my default as you all know. The image I grabbed from google was a very high quality .png file and it wouldn't pixelate whether it was
enlarged or minimized.


That's the real truth behind my Silk Road image.

and on page 1 results of "man on camel stencil" she was found Link

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October 23, 2013, 03:01:36 PM
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Well I certainly have the high quality Silk Road logo and I found it on google.
I had an obsession with the idea of a totally free market and their choice of logo I thought was amazing.
So I set out to hunt down the logo to use for my BitcoinTalk account default pic. I googled Silk Road Logo
but wasn't able to find a high quality image. So what I did instead was type in man on camel stencil, or man on camel,
man riding camel, and sure enough after about 10 minutes of searching I was able to find a stenciled image of a man riding a camel.
 It happened to be the same image that the Silk Road uses just not colored in green. I went ahead and colored it in on Photoshop at school and am
now using it as my default as you all know. The image I grabbed from google was a very high quality .png file and it wouldn't pixelate whether it was
enlarged or minimized.


That's the real truth behind my Silk Road image.

and on page 1 results of "man on camel stencil" she was found Link

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OP, stop doing meth and posting.
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October 23, 2013, 04:55:58 PM
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I saw criminal court filings posted on ice.gov stating charges against Ross Ulbricht. How does that affect this analysis? Very interesting -- some real conspiracy porn here (great read) -- but I don't know about this.
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I saw criminal court filings posted on ice.gov stating charges against Ross Ulbricht. How does that affect this analysis? Very interesting -- some real conspiracy porn here (great read) -- but I don't know about this.

Yeah, I suppose the conspiracy managed to put this on ICE's website without their knowledge.

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FYI, sheepsmarket and BMR are owned by the same group of scammers that owned silkroad. More on that when I open my new web page dedicate to exposing silkroad.

Arent they busy setting up SR 2.0?
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http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/1p1jln/dodcoachellahhinfinitesource_creates_new/
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Doesn't surprise me.  Absolutely craptacular bullshit only thrives in the absence of skepticism.

And this is nothing if not absolutely craptacular bullshit.
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(I honestly have no idea what I am talking about here!)


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Doesn't surprise me.  Absolutely craptacular bullshit only thrives in the absence of skepticism.

And this is nothing if not absolutely craptacular bullshit.

Nothing tops a conspiracy theory, where the theorist tries to control conspiracy theories on their theory.

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October 23, 2013, 07:35:02 PM
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In the very last days leading up to the “server seizures” very blatant and obvious cash grab starts to occur by staff. People were suddenly finding their BTC were completely drained, and not just a couple of people, many people reported accounts with funds zeroed out, pins not working, and accounts just plain not working. After doing the math, the “customer support” section of the forums received a 85% increase in pins, coins, and account problems. It would seem someone wanted to stop any amount of BTC from leaving the site.

wait ... nothing convinced me, but this file made me think about it


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(I honestly have no idea what I am talking about here!)



Drugs. I'm pretty sure he's doing drugs.
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October 23, 2013, 10:43:13 PM
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Hmmm. Patrick O'Niel (reporter, "chobopeon") claims he knows somebody who was at DPR's trial:

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Hi, Patrick oneill from the daily dot here. I've been covering SR for a while.

I'm not entirely sure what you're driving at, but if it's that the Sr takedown was a scam and never happened, I have a coworker who was at the actual court dates in SF. I wasn't as I'm not in SF but I will be attending the dates elsewhere. maybe were all part of the conspiracy but probably not.

Your theory seems to suggest that Ross ulbricht isnt even in jail. I'm thinking he is and it's not just Adrian Chen and Greenberg from Forbes who say so. Again, I'm having a hard time figuring out what you're actually driving at here but I think that probably deals a blow to the theory.

Then OP asks for proof:

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Mind if I see some proof? Your account history I just screen shot shows someone who does nothing but plays starcraft and faps to gonewild. While I don't think you are doing anything wrong, you should protect yourself against carpel tunnel syndrome in your lifetime.

Edit: Oh, you're the people who claimed visited DPR Smiley.

Then Patrick TRIES to post proof:

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I never claimed to visit DPR, where do you see that? I'm only claiming that a co-worker attended the court dates in SF and that Ross Ulbricht was there.

And if you actually wanted proof youd note that I've been posting patrick o'neill's stories to the relevant subs for a long time. In any event, here's a proof tweet (https://twitter.com/chobopeon/status/393135483854655488). Not sure what that accomplishes though.

Congrats on screenshotting my account history though, make sure you cherish it always!

I haven't played StarCraft in many months, it's sad, but no time ;[

But this post is missing from the reddit thread! Did the OP/moderator, whose motto is "Censorship? Not on my watch." censor the post? It's in Patrick's post history (http://www.reddit.com/user/chobopeon) but not in the reddit comment thread!

Edit: I tried posting this in reply to the request for proof:
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So, I'm just going to try posting proof here on Patrick's behalf, to see if it gets deleted like his did: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=316687.msg3397952#msg3397952

Sure enough, it was deleted, even though you can see it in my posting history (http://www.reddit.com/user/dacoinminster) This doesn't seem like someone who is seeking the truth Smiley




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