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No. I do not think it does because if the father is going gambling then more likely the wife will too making it a family affair. There are female gamblers too. It goes both ways and this also ends up as a faimly problem. Getting addicted to gambling does not mean one should not take care of family. Actually women should not gamble because have a huge role to play in a child upbringing. But so does the father. The kids stay home while the mother makes sure the father doesn't lose all their money at the casino and also making sure he stays honest and doesn't cheat on her with a cocktail waitress. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Well thats another story pertaining to adultery then. Kids need to be taken care of by the entire family. Any compromise done by either parent is unacceptable. I think yes. Becoming a parent will make them more responsible for their life and they will save their money for their children instead of wasting them in some casinos. Being a parent is a good experience for all of us because it does not change our mindset but also our life
Becoming a parent is different experience of life altogether. It can turn a bad human is a good human in a few months.
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March 25, 2018, 12:38:57 PM |
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This was the discussion topic we were having last night, a bunch of gambling friends and one of them an expecting dad. There were counter arguments that his child also would turn out a gambler like he is.
The arguments were that it is his in his gene and that'll pass on to his child, since every one in his family was a gambler.
The counter argument was that the child would make a logical decision and genes won't play any part in this.
Which brought us to another important question what if turns out a gambler would they both play together. Would he be comfortable?
Amid this he walked out and texted me he didn't wish to gamble anymore, so wanted your views on this.
My father is a gambler all his life and growing up I’ve seen him do his thing I even know the people he gamble with and became my friend as well but I can say that I never got the gambler side of him because I value money so much its not that I haven’t tried doing but not like him that he can’t go a day without gambling. So I think it really depends on the child if he/she knows that doing such will bring no good then he/she will decide if he/she wants that kind of life.
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March 25, 2018, 01:04:20 PM |
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There were counter arguments that his child also would turn out a gambler like he is.
This argument is vague not because the father is a gambler the child will also grow as a gambler too? not unless he'll let his kid grow with him together in the casino. Yeah, in fact, how will a man in his right sense even allow his kids to make the same mistake he is making unless he is totally cursed by his forefathers ? An addicted gambler even as a father should always know better what he is trying to battle with, so trying to bring your kid into the picture is just evil. Secondly, if it were to be genetic, I am sure I should have been a hardcore gambler by now, but it is a path that everyone can decide to take in their life and a matter of choice. A child who can see the impact of gambling in his father’s life even if he gets to know he does will never choose that path.
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March 25, 2018, 02:27:00 PM |
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That's funny when you relate your genes to being a gambler. Personally I think it is the lifestyle of a person that makes him/her a gambler and if the child grew up seeing his parents being a gambler so most likely he will become a gambler as well. I'm pretty close to someone who grew up to have a father that's a gambler and up until now even if his father is struggling with gambling, he was not into that kind of thing. He mentioned to me once that he does not want to be like his father, in debt and almost got nothing because of how addicted he was with gambling. So it does not really run in the genes but it is within the person himself if he wants to be like this father.
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March 25, 2018, 02:36:54 PM |
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I think yes. Becoming a parent will make them more responsible for their life and they will save their money for their children instead of wasting them in some casinos. Being a parent is a good experience for all of us because it does not change our mindset but also our life
Precisely.But it's really hard to be a good parent somehow.The lifestyle we used to do while we're still single will just change in a sudden.And we should nothing to do with it but change for the better.Or else all your bad habits like gambling will be absorbed by your kids thinking that it will bring them good also.Kids are very keen observers so as a parent,we should be extra careful with what we have shown to them since we are considered models for them.
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March 25, 2018, 07:28:13 PM |
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becoming a parent could changes the gambler to be a good parent so his kids not follow his way to earn money. but if he cannot changes his self, then it might be difficult for him to tell his kid to not playing gambling because kids always follow their parents did. so if we want to teach our kids, we need to teach our self first so we can tell and teach our kids about the good things and we can see our kids learn only good things that we told.
there is a saying that what adults do , childrens will also follow it even if its bad for them. i guess that saying can always happen on real events and it can happen to your child because they will follow your bad habits on which is playing a gambling. even if your good at hiding , time will come that they will always find out about it. so i guess in order to be a good parent and a good influence to other children. much better if we can avoid playing gambling if there is a children beside us, rather we will only do gambling in a private place or in casinos and online sites. Basically, it’s not a saying, it is a logic or concept that what the elders do, the children follow the same thing no matter even if it is good for them or not. The simple answer to this logic is that children are not old enough to have the sense that which thing is good for them and which has a bad impact on their lives; they just think that their elders are doing a good thing because they can never teach wrong.
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March 25, 2018, 08:11:41 PM |
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I don't think it does but it depends on the person. Like some people who are addicted to cigarettes stop smoking after becoming a parent, but some don't. It's the same with gambling. For some people it will be a moment to stop and others won't change anything.
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March 25, 2018, 09:30:16 PM |
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becoming a parent could changes the gambler to be a good parent so his kids not follow his way to earn money. but if he cannot changes his self, then it might be difficult for him to tell his kid to not playing gambling because kids always follow their parents did. so if we want to teach our kids, we need to teach our self first so we can tell and teach our kids about the good things and we can see our kids learn only good things that we told.
there is a saying that what adults do , childrens will also follow it even if its bad for them. i guess that saying can always happen on real events and it can happen to your child because they will follow your bad habits on which is playing a gambling. even if your good at hiding , time will come that they will always find out about it. so i guess in order to be a good parent and a good influence to other children. much better if we can avoid playing gambling if there is a children beside us, rather we will only do gambling in a private place or in casinos and online sites. Basically, it’s not a saying, it is a logic or concept that what the elders do, the children follow the same thing no matter even if it is good for them or not. The simple answer to this logic is that children are not old enough to have the sense that which thing is good for them and which has a bad impact on their lives; they just think that their elders are doing a good thing because they can never teach wrong. In short this is totally an elders fault when young minds/age would already be involved into gambling because they havent taught on what are the possible risk ahead on playing gambling on where they are just simply following into those things that have been done or on the things that they do see.Some says its hereditary which i do believe that it isnt really connected at all because this is just a habit that can simply be controlled or stopped if we want to.
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March 25, 2018, 11:30:11 PM |
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Yes, being parent has big responsibilities. In the fact that you need feed your children and your husband/wife which mean that all your money is for securing your family.
If gambler did not chance I think nothing will happen to their family, because they have no enough time for family and did not monitor the situation inside the house.
Even gambling is easy way to earn money but it is coming from illegal and use to support your famkly, I think it's not a good images of parents.
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March 25, 2018, 11:39:19 PM |
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Yes, being parent has big responsibilities. In the fact that you need feed your children and your husband/wife which mean that all your money is for securing your family.
If gambler did not chance I think nothing will happen to their family, because they have no enough time for family and did not monitor the situation inside the house.
Even gambling is easy way to earn money but it is coming from illegal and use to support your famkly, I think it's not a good images of parents.
But there are really situations or instances in life which cant really be avoided on where you would need to do the last resort on making money which means thru gambling which is actually a very bad idea to do. Being a parent comes with a really big responsibility to raise up your sibling into a better and good path.Even on my side I cant afford to let my child see me doing gambling.I would rather keep it on my own than on exposing myself to them.
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March 26, 2018, 02:58:36 AM |
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Not really. I have a cousin that does not have a job and even after having 4 kids, it does not still make him think that he needs to change and stop on what he's doing.
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March 26, 2018, 03:18:02 AM |
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As a new parent myself, I would say yes. Why you ask. For a few very important reasons like:
1. When you didn't have a child, you can lose everything and just go about your life without anyone you need to support. That child will need money to live and if you can't provide that then he/she will not be live a good life.
Well, dunno if your wife would be happy about you gambling away your house ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I get the other points though And it's not whether it could change a gambler, but that it should.. I dont think anyone will be happy to know that their house was gambled away, them knowing or not. But generally things do change when you get a kid with you. You have to think above yourself and try to be a responsible person as that would be the best thing to do. Gambling has a lot of risk, and gambling money intended for your family is something illogical and irresponsible.
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March 26, 2018, 05:57:04 AM |
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Not really. I have a cousin that does not have a job and even after having 4 kids, it does not still make him think that he needs to change and stop on what he's doing.
There are gamblers that can't give up their own hobby just because they became a parent. Even here in my place I've got some relatives who are not stopping in gambling even they have a bunch of kids to feed and to take care off. It all depends, they can still gamble but they have to be responsible and provide all the things that their kid/s needed.
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March 26, 2018, 06:22:59 AM |
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Not really. I have a cousin that does not have a job and even after having 4 kids, it does not still make him think that he needs to change and stop on what he's doing.
There are gamblers that can't give up their own hobby just because they became a parent. Even here in my place I've got some relatives who are not stopping in gambling even they have a bunch of kids to feed and to take care off. It all depends, they can still gamble but they have to be responsible and provide all the things that their kid/s needed. I think if the first time that you had your kid there going to stop your hobby for a while but once you are back and probably your child is already capable of being independent it would come back. I agree with your statement that you can be still responsible as long as you are giving the kids what they really need especially in order to have their education.
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March 26, 2018, 10:08:55 AM |
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Yes, being parent has big responsibilities. In the fact that you need feed your children and your husband/wife which mean that all your money is for securing your family.
If gambler did not chance I think nothing will happen to their family, because they have no enough time for family and did not monitor the situation inside the house.
Even gambling is easy way to earn money but it is coming from illegal and use to support your famkly, I think it's not a good images of parents.
I totally agree with you on this. Before anyone becomes a parent, one must first know all the responsibilities he/she has to commit. All of your bad habits, your lazy attitude and other relevant stuff should be changed once someone becomes a parent. The responsibility that you have to commit is greater than anything else, since you are building the most basic unit of society- which is a family. Relatively, people who typically gamble and become a parent afterwards change their ways due to the magnitude of responsibilities. But this also poses a danger to them as there exist this tendency for them to go back to their old ways.
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March 26, 2018, 10:25:18 AM |
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This was the discussion topic we were having last night, a bunch of gambling friends and one of them an expecting dad. There were counter arguments that his child also would turn out a gambler like he is.
The arguments were that it is his in his gene and that'll pass on to his child, since every one in his family was a gambler.
The counter argument was that the child would make a logical decision and genes won't play any part in this.
Which brought us to another important question what if turns out a gambler would they both play together. Would he be comfortable?
Amid this he walked out and texted me he didn't wish to gamble anymore, so wanted your views on this.
I think having a child is a big step in life, and changes people a lot, because once they do they realize that they have responsibilities, a duty to be fulfilled to give that child the best they could give so he can grow up and be a good person, and gamblers of all people start losing their passion and their addiction for gambling because the money they go spending in the casino is best to be saved or given to that child.
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March 26, 2018, 11:05:38 AM |
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I think having a child is a big step in life, and changes people a lot, because once they do they realize that they have responsibilities, a duty to be fulfilled to give that child the best they could give so he can grow up and be a good person, and gamblers of all people start losing their passion and their addiction for gambling because the money they go spending in the casino is best to be saved or given to that child.
Getting responsibility will definitely give you a big change but it doesn't mean that as a gambler you have to change. It only adds you something that you need to sustain as a parent, not all are the same. There are some that changes and there are some that doesn't.
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March 26, 2018, 11:27:53 AM |
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Not really. I have a cousin that does not have a job and even after having 4 kids, it does not still make him think that he needs to change and stop on what he's doing.
There are gamblers that can't give up their own hobby just because they became a parent. Even here in my place I've got some relatives who are not stopping in gambling even they have a bunch of kids to feed and to take care off. It all depends, they can still gamble but they have to be responsible and provide all the things that their kid/s needed. I think if the first time that you had your kid there going to stop your hobby for a while but once you are back and probably your child is already capable of being independent it would come back. I agree with your statement that you can be still responsible as long as you are giving the kids what they really need especially in order to have their education. You can stop for awhile so that you can focus taking care of your kid. If you're a hands on dad or mom then you have to sacrifice gambling for it. I think this isn't really an issue for those people that are starting to have kids. What matters is on how you are going to take care of that kid while it is growing. Are you going to allow him to know gambling and be like his dad/mom?
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March 26, 2018, 03:48:06 PM |
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The genes argument is nonsense, there is nothing wired on our genes that makes us gamble.
I understand from what you are saying that he is not a responsible gambler, that at least sometimes he gambles more than he would like and then regrets. Having a child can change his behavior but in many cases it doesn’t’. You’ll tell us later how he’s doing.
Yeah, most responsible gamblers will not even want to let their child be aware of what they do in their own little time to unwind and where the problem would be is being an addict, and also no responsible father will lure the child into doing what he is fighting to get out from. It is not a matter of gene like the OP have said, gambling is a choice and unless the child decides to go in that footstep with a decision he is making all by himself, then we have a Junior gambler in our hands then like his dad.
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March 26, 2018, 07:07:34 PM |
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Yes, being parent has big responsibilities. In the fact that you need feed your children and your husband/wife which mean that all your money is for securing your family.
If gambler did not chance I think nothing will happen to their family, because they have no enough time for family and did not monitor the situation inside the house.
Even gambling is easy way to earn money but it is coming from illegal and use to support your famkly, I think it's not a good images of parents.
But there are really situations or instances in life which cant really be avoided on where you would need to do the last resort on making money which means thru gambling which is actually a very bad idea to do. Being a parent comes with a really big responsibility to raise up your sibling into a better and good path.Even on my side I cant afford to let my child see me doing gambling.I would rather keep it on my own than on exposing myself to them. Right, being a parent is a big responsibility and it is also considered as a lifetime contract. When a gambler realizes this, it could help in changing that person. Some people are very hard to talk about bad things that they are doing but when they became parents, they changed. I witnessed this already, it is like a baby has a magic that could his parents change for the better. Parents will do the things that will make you happy and can sacrifice even big things just to secure their child's safety and wellness.
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