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March 22, 2018, 02:45:58 PM
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This seems strange to me. Since the merit system has been introduced, the forums (or at least I) have been witnessing a number of newbie accounts with some great knowledge posts. Some sound like they've been around for years, and it's something interesting that they've a recently created account.

In simple words, it smells like a surge in multiple accounts to me. Roll Eyes
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March 22, 2018, 02:49:04 PM
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This could actually be a veiled way of sending merits to yourself. Given a good post, few would question the use of sMerit upon it.
However, this would only be to "new" account farmers rather than older ones since they would just as well post on their higher-ranked accounts and rank them up.

Perhaps it's a new wave of accounts being farmed as the max monthly merit cap is reached?

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March 22, 2018, 02:52:31 PM
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This seems strange to me. Since the merit system has been introduced, the forums (or at least I) have been witnessing a number of newbie accounts with some great knowledge posts. Some sound like they've been around for years, and it's something interesting that they've a recently created account.

In simple words, it smells like a surge in multiple accounts to me. Roll Eyes
Yep, i also thinking about this.
But for me, i still don't know. Can we have 2 or more account?
Because I remember, I've found on the bounty. People using 2 different account with 1 eth address.
I don't know, that is allowed or not..
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March 22, 2018, 02:54:54 PM
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This could actually be a veiled way of sending merits to yourself. Given a good post, few would question the use of sMerit upon it.
However, this would only be to "new" account farmers rather than older ones since they would just as well post on their higher-ranked accounts and rank them up.

Perhaps it's a new wave of accounts being farmed as the max monthly merit cap is reached?

Abusers will always try to abuse everything they come across if they can. There are numbers of new accounts those are trying to make seriousgood posts and they do not have any alts

Me for example  Grin


But for me, i still don't know. Can we have 2 or more account?


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March 22, 2018, 02:57:53 PM
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This could actually be a veiled way of sending merits to yourself. Given a good post, few would question the use of sMerit upon it.
However, this would only be to "new" account farmers rather than older ones since they would just as well post on their higher-ranked accounts and rank them up.

Perhaps it's a new wave of accounts being farmed as the max monthly merit cap is reached?
The worry thing is, if there is new account that created by other who already have accounr here with higher rank and then the new one create a good post and then the old account with the higher rank and have much merit, give merit to their new account's post.
Sorry, a bit difficult to explain it, because my english is not good enough..  Smiley
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March 22, 2018, 03:01:29 PM
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However, this would only be to "new" account farmers rather than older ones since they would just as well post on their higher-ranked accounts and rank them up.

I've noticed this as well. Is it a new more intelligent set of account farmers moving in to pick the business as shitposting account farmers are forced out? Or are more Bitcoin enthusiasts joining the forum? I guess we'll find out if these well-informed noobs suddenly start posting is broken pidgin English after they have ranked up a few times.  Wink


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March 22, 2018, 03:08:51 PM
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This could actually be a veiled way of sending merits to yourself. Given a good post, few would question the use of sMerit upon it.
However, this would only be to "new" account farmers rather than older ones since they would just as well post on their higher-ranked accounts and rank them up.

Perhaps it's a new wave of accounts being farmed as the max monthly merit cap is reached?

Abusers will always try to abuse everything they come across if they can. There are numbers of new accounts those are trying to make seriousgood posts and they do not have any alts

Me for example  Grin


But for me, i still don't know. Can we have 2 or more account?


Read this, there are green signal.
There is mentioned, multiple account and account sales are allowed.
Its mean, no problem if 1person having 2 account?
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March 22, 2018, 03:14:32 PM
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This could actually be a veiled way of sending merits to yourself. Given a good post, few would question the use of sMerit upon it.
However, this would only be to "new" account farmers rather than older ones since they would just as well post on their higher-ranked accounts and rank them up.

Perhaps it's a new wave of accounts being farmed as the max monthly merit cap is reached?

Recently I am policing on accounts with suspicious merit exchanges and I did noticed some of the high ranked accounts are actually giving suspicious amount of merits to some of their new accounts (ALT obviously). I am tagging them with my best.

I do have some ideas that I believe applying will really reduce this kind of alt farming abuses.


There is mentioned, multiple account and account sales are allowed.
Its mean, no problem if 1person having 2 account?


According to the rule - yes  Roll Eyes

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March 22, 2018, 03:15:56 PM
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There is mentioned, multiple account and account sales are allowed.
Its mean, no problem if 1person having 2 account?

It is allowed but unless you publically declare it then it will be considered untrustworthy behaviour and you'll get a red tag. For example, theymos has a second account called theymos_away and everyone know that so he's not hiding anything. If someone has multiple accounts so they can cheat bounties it is another story.

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March 22, 2018, 03:21:59 PM
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There is mentioned, multiple account and account sales are allowed.
Its mean, no problem if 1person having 2 account?

It is allowed but unless you publically declare it then it will be considered untrustworthy behaviour and you'll get a red tag. For example, theymos has a second account called theymos_away and everyone know that so he's not hiding anything. If someone has multiple accounts so they can cheat bounties it is another story.

Ahh I see, i got your point.
As long if we transparent with our account and not to scam someone or bounty, then it's okay We have 2 account.. Am i correct?
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March 22, 2018, 03:25:30 PM
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Ahh I see, i got your point.
As long if we transparent with our account and not to scam someone or bounty, then it's okay We have 2 account.. Am i correct?

The best way to do it is to leave trust from each account to the other saying it is your alt and then also post in the known Alts thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.0

That way there will be no misunderstanding.

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March 22, 2018, 03:33:19 PM
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Some sound like they've been around for years, and it's something interesting that they've a recently created account.
In simple words, it smells like a surge in multiple accounts to me. Roll Eyes

Laws of demand and offer probably.
With the usual account farming rendered useless and dormant account worthless it might be possible that the prices have gone "to the moon" and older members knowledgeable enough are replacing the usual bots

I saw one thread claiming that merit has reached prices of 18$ or so (which I highly doubt), but still, maybe creating new accounts, posting to earn 10 or so merits and selling them might be a profitable business ....

As long as the merit is really earned I doubt anyone has a problem with it.
Besides it's going to be far easier to see when the account has changed hands in this situation, when the user suddenly turns illiterate.

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March 22, 2018, 03:36:32 PM
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Certainly. I've seen an increase in the number of newbie accounts with pretty constructive posts all around and I do merit them if I find the posts genuinely interesting or of substance.

It's important to note that a good portion of those are actually people copying posts from other places and passing them off as their own. Check the posts before you merit them and if they're copying, report them to the moderator as well.

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I have witnessed this issue before merit system as well where newbies made great posts.

I even asked 1 or 2 newbies that how you know lots of things about crypto while you are just a newbie here?

So the case was simple enough to understand that they are just farming accounts to feed their greed.

But the current merit system has definitely increased the difficulty level for them. The task is not easy for them anymore imo.
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This kind of merit farming might go under the radar for the first few merits, but I do not think it is possible to rank up to Full Member and above (100+ merits required) without getting noticed. In any case, once the initial smerits run out and merits have to be actually earned, this kind of farming will come to a slow halt.
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This kind of merit farming might go under the radar for the first few merits, but I do not think it is possible to rank up to Full Member and above (100+ merits required) without getting noticed. In any case, once the initial smerits run out and merits have to be actually earned, this kind of farming will come to a slow halt.
That's it. Account farmers will not be able to earn more merit by themselves via their threads. That means their sMerits will run away sooner or later when the cycle of Merits-sMerits between their alt accounts come to the end. At and after the end of the cycle, they will almost never get any more merit. And as you said, it's really hard for them to rank up to Full Member and above without notice from lots of radar in the forum. The only way for them to rank up to Full Member and higher is giving their contributions to the forum through their threads (which they probably never do). I guess most of farming accounts will be stucked at Member rank.
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This seems strange to me. Since the merit system has been introduced, the forums (or at least I) have been witnessing a number of newbie accounts with some great knowledge posts. Some sound like they've been around for years, and it's something interesting that they've a recently created account.

In simple words, it smells like a surge in multiple accounts to me. Roll Eyes
Yep, i also thinking about this.
But for me, i still don't know. Can we have 2 or more account?
Because I remember, I've found on the bounty. People using 2 different account with 1 eth address.
I don't know, that is allowed or not..

Well, there are some cases that some newbies have actually read most or the pinned posts here or they have been guided by a person whose been here for a long time ago. Just like me, my brother was already a member here last year and then he guided and teach what and not to do, although I still have some mistakes that's why some of my posts we're deleted.
And in some cases, you may be right on it, even though having multiple accounts here aren't tolerated but still they're not giving a damn shit on the rules just to earn big. If you can find again somebody who smells fishy and 2 accounts we're using the same address then Report it immediately or you can also post their profiles so many of us can know about it.
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I seem to be the sole idiot who hasn't really noticed what OP's talking about.  He didn't give any examples, so maybe those excellent newbie posters do their thing in sections I have on ignore or something. 

If you can write good English and know just a little about bitcoin, you might be able to garner some merits, but I'd imagine that approach to account farming would be extremely tedious, given how niggardly people are being with their sMerits.  You'd have to be consistently writing posts made out of solid gold (like nullius, for example) to even have a chance of ranking up ONE account, much less a whole stable of them like farmers used to have. 

And yeah, merits can be exchanged between alts, but I think the community is doing a really good job of catching that, and DT members are tagging these untrustworthy, dishonest, merit traders.  Sunshine is the best disinfectant, my peeps.

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