I am a time-traveler from the future, here to beg you to stop what you are doing

[bitmover]

This is Reddit post, originally posted in 2014 by  Luka Magnotta
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1lfobc/i_am_a_timetraveler_from_the_future_here_to_beg/

I think the most impressive is the date. How come 4 years ago this guy predicted bitcoin price would reach 10k USD in 2017?

This is a very good reading, hope you guys enjoy. Some people may have read it already.

I am sending this message from the year 2025. Things are looking bleak here, and some of you will carry blood on your hands.

If you don't believe me, please move on, as I have no way of proving to you I'm really who I claim to be.

I don't want to waste any of your time, so I'm merely going to explain what happened.

On average, every year so far, the value of Bitcoin has increased by about a factor ten. From 0.1 dollar in 2010, to 1 dollar in 2011, to 10 dollar in 2012, to 100 dollar in 2013. From now on, there's a slight slowdown, as the value increased by a factor ten every two years, to 1,000 dollar in 2015, to 10,000 in 2017, 100,000 in 2019, and 1,000,000 in 2021. From here onwards, there's no good way of expressing its value in dollars, as the dollar is no longer used, nor is any central bank issued currency for that matter. There are two main forms of wealth in today's world. Land and cryptocurrency.

There are just over 19 million Bitcoin known to be used in the world today, as well as a few hundred thousand that were permanently lost, and we're still dealing with a population of just over 7 billion people today. On average, this means the average person owns just under 0.003 bitcoin. However, due to the unequal distribution of wealth in my world, the mean person owns just 0.001 bitcoin. That's right, most of you reading this today are rich. I personally live next to an annoying young man who logged into his old Reddit account two years ago and discovered that he received a tip of 0.01 Bitcoin back in 2013 for calling someone a "faggot" when he was a 16 year old boy. Upon making this discovery he bought an airline ticket, left his house without telling anyone anything and went to a Citadel.

"What is a Citadel?" you might wonder. Well, by the time Bitcoin became worth 1,000 dollar, services began to emerge for the "Bitcoin rich" to protect themselves as well as their wealth. It started with expensive safes, then began to include bodyguards, and today, "earlies" (our term for early adapters), as well as those rich whose wealth survived the "transition" live in isolated gated cities called Citadels, where most work is automated. Most such Citadels are born out of the fortification used to protect places where Bitcoin mining machines are located. The company known as ASICminer to you is known to me as a city where Mr. Friedman rules as a king.

In my world, soon to be your world, most governments no longer exist, as Bitcoin transactions are done anonymously and thus most governments can enforce no taxation on their citizens. Most of the success of Bitcoin is due to the fact that Bitcoin turned out to be an effective method to hide your wealth from the government. Whereas people entering "rogue states" like Luxemberg, Monaco and Liechtenstein were followed by unmanned drones to ensure that governments know who is hiding wealth, no such option was available to stop people from hiding their money in Bitcoin.

Governments tried to stay relevant in my society by buying Bitcoin, which just made the problem worse, by increasing the value of Bitcoin. Governments did so in secret of course, but my generation's "Snowdens" are in fact greedy government employees who transferred Bitcoin to their own private account, and escaped to anarchic places where no questions are asked as long as you can cough up some money.

The four institutions with the largest still accessible Bitcoin balance are believed to be as following:

-ASICminer - 50,000 Bitcoin

-The IMF's "currency stabilization fund" - 70,000 Bitcoin

-Government of Saudi Arabia - 110,000 Bitcoin

-The North Korean government - 180,000 Bitcoin

Economic growth today is about -2% per year. Why is this? If you own more than 0.01 Bitcoin, chances are you don't do anything with your money. There is no inflation, and thus no incentive to invest your money. Just like the medieval ages had no significant economic growth, as wealth was measured in gold, our society has no economic growth either, as people know their 0.01 Bitcoin will be enough to last them a lifetime. The fact that there are still new Bitcoin released is what prevents our world from collapse so far it seems, but people fear that the decline in inflation that will occur during the next block halving may further wreck our economy.

What happened to the Winklevoss twins? The Winklevoss twins were among the first to die. After seeing the enormous damage done to the fabric of society, terrorist movements emerged that sought to hunt down and murder anyone known to have a large balance of Bitcoin, or believed to be responsible in any way for the development of cryptocurrency. Ironically, these terrorist movements use Bitcoin to anonymously fund their operations.

Most people who own any significant amount of Bitcoin no longer speak to their families and lost their friends, because they had to change their identities. There have been also been a few suicides of people who could not handle the guilt after seeing what happened to the bag-holders, the type of skeptical people who continued to believe it would eventually collapse, even after hearing the rumors of governments buying Bitcoin. Many people were taken hostage, and thus, it is suspected that 25% percent of "Bitcoin rich" actually physically tortured someone to get him to spill his password.

Why didn't we abandon Bitcoin, and move to another system? Well, we tried of course. We tried to step over to an inflationary cryptocurrency, but nobody with an IQ above 70 was willing to step up first and volunteer. After all, why would you voluntarily invest a lot of your money into a currency where you know your wealth will continually decline? The thing that made Bitcoin so dangerous to society was also what made it so successful. Bitcoin allows us to give into our greed.

In Africa, surveys show that an estimated 70% of people believe that Bitcoin was invented by the devil himself. There's a reason for this. It's a very sensitive issue that today is generally referred to as "the tragedy". The African Union had ambitious plans to help its citizens be ready to step over to Bitcoin. Governments gave their own citizens cell phones for free, tied to their government ID, and thus government sought to integrate Bitcoin into their economy. All went well, until "the tragedy" that is. A criminal organization, believed to be located in Russia, exploited a hardware fault in the government issued cell phones. It's believed that the entire continent of Africa lost an estimated 60% of its wealth in a period of 48 hours. What followed was a period of chaos and civil war, until the Saudi Arabian and North Korean governments, two of the world's major superpowers due to their authoritarian political system's unique ability to adapt to the "Bitcoin challenge", divided most African land between themselves and were praised as heroes by the local African population for it.

You might wonder, what is our plan now? It's clear that the current situation can not be sustained, without ending in a nuclear holocaust. I am part of an underground network, who seek to launch a coordinated attack against the very infrastructure of the Internet itself. We have at our disposal about 20 nuclear submarines, which we will use to cut all underwater cables between different continents. After this has been successfully achieved, we will launch a simultaneous nuclear pulse attack on every densely population area of the world. We believe that the resulting chaos will allow the world's population to rise up in revolt, and destroy as many computers out there as possible, until we reach the point where Bitcoin loses any relevance.

Of course, this outcome will likely lead to billions of deaths. This is a price we are forced to pay, to avoid the eternal enslavement of humanity to a tiny elite.

This is also the reason we contacted you.

It doesn't have to be like this. You do not have to share our fate. I don't know how, but you must find a way to destroy this godforsaken project in its infancy. I know this is a difficult thing to ask of you. You believed you were helping the world by eliminating the central banking cartel that governs your economies.

However, I have seen where it ends.

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[kingofrogues07]

Thanks for you sharing this post. Probably people were kidding with this guy at 2015 But in 2017-2018 predictions come true.

[player514]

This is Reddit post, originally posted in 2014 by  Luka Magnotta
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1lfobc/i_am_a_timetraveler_from_the_future_here_to_beg/

I think the most impressive is the date. How come 4 years ago this guy predicted bitcoin price would reach 10k USD in 2017?

This is a very good reading, hope you guys enjoy. Some people may have read it already.



I am sending this message from the year 2025. Things are looking bleak here, and some of you will carry blood on your hands.

If you don't believe me, please move on, as I have no way of proving to you I'm really who I claim to be.

I don't want to waste any of your time, so I'm merely going to explain what happened.

On average, every year so far, the value of Bitcoin has increased by about a factor ten. From 0.1 dollar in 2010, to 1 dollar in 2011, to 10 dollar in 2012, to 100 dollar in 2013. From now on, there's a slight slowdown, as the value increased by a factor ten every two years, to 1,000 dollar in 2015, to 10,000 in 2017, 100,000 in 2019, and 1,000,000 in 2021. From here onwards, there's no good way of expressing its value in dollars, as the dollar is no longer used, nor is any central bank issued currency for that matter. There are two main forms of wealth in today's world. Land and cryptocurrency.

There are just over 19 million Bitcoin known to be used in the world today, as well as a few hundred thousand that were permanently lost, and we're still dealing with a population of just over 7 billion people today. On average, this means the average person owns just under 0.003 bitcoin. However, due to the unequal distribution of wealth in my world, the mean person owns just 0.001 bitcoin. That's right, most of you reading this today are rich. I personally live next to an annoying young man who logged into his old Reddit account two years ago and discovered that he received a tip of 0.01 Bitcoin back in 2013 for calling someone a "faggot" when he was a 16 year old boy. Upon making this discovery he bought an airline ticket, left his house without telling anyone anything and went to a Citadel.

"What is a Citadel?" you might wonder. Well, by the time Bitcoin became worth 1,000 dollar, services began to emerge for the "Bitcoin rich" to protect themselves as well as their wealth. It started with expensive safes, then began to include bodyguards, and today, "earlies" (our term for early adapters), as well as those rich whose wealth survived the "transition" live in isolated gated cities called Citadels, where most work is automated. Most such Citadels are born out of the fortification used to protect places where Bitcoin mining machines are located. The company known as ASICminer to you is known to me as a city where Mr. Friedman rules as a king.

In my world, soon to be your world, most governments no longer exist, as Bitcoin transactions are done anonymously and thus most governments can enforce no taxation on their citizens. Most of the success of Bitcoin is due to the fact that Bitcoin turned out to be an effective method to hide your wealth from the government. Whereas people entering "rogue states" like Luxemberg, Monaco and Liechtenstein were followed by unmanned drones to ensure that governments know who is hiding wealth, no such option was available to stop people from hiding their money in Bitcoin.

Governments tried to stay relevant in my society by buying Bitcoin, which just made the problem worse, by increasing the value of Bitcoin. Governments did so in secret of course, but my generation's "Snowdens" are in fact greedy government employees who transferred Bitcoin to their own private account, and escaped to anarchic places where no questions are asked as long as you can cough up some money.

The four institutions with the largest still accessible Bitcoin balance are believed to be as following:

-ASICminer - 50,000 Bitcoin

-The IMF's "currency stabilization fund" - 70,000 Bitcoin

-Government of Saudi Arabia - 110,000 Bitcoin

-The North Korean government - 180,000 Bitcoin

Economic growth today is about -2% per year. Why is this? If you own more than 0.01 Bitcoin, chances are you don't do anything with your money. There is no inflation, and thus no incentive to invest your money. Just like the medieval ages had no significant economic growth, as wealth was measured in gold, our society has no economic growth either, as people know their 0.01 Bitcoin will be enough to last them a lifetime. The fact that there are still new Bitcoin released is what prevents our world from collapse so far it seems, but people fear that the decline in inflation that will occur during the next block halving may further wreck our economy.

What happened to the Winklevoss twins? The Winklevoss twins were among the first to die. After seeing the enormous damage done to the fabric of society, terrorist movements emerged that sought to hunt down and murder anyone known to have a large balance of Bitcoin, or believed to be responsible in any way for the development of cryptocurrency. Ironically, these terrorist movements use Bitcoin to anonymously fund their operations.

Most people who own any significant amount of Bitcoin no longer speak to their families and lost their friends, because they had to change their identities. There have been also been a few suicides of people who could not handle the guilt after seeing what happened to the bag-holders, the type of skeptical people who continued to believe it would eventually collapse, even after hearing the rumors of governments buying Bitcoin. Many people were taken hostage, and thus, it is suspected that 25% percent of "Bitcoin rich" actually physically tortured someone to get him to spill his password.

Why didn't we abandon Bitcoin, and move to another system? Well, we tried of course. We tried to step over to an inflationary cryptocurrency, but nobody with an IQ above 70 was willing to step up first and volunteer. After all, why would you voluntarily invest a lot of your money into a currency where you know your wealth will continually decline? The thing that made Bitcoin so dangerous to society was also what made it so successful. Bitcoin allows us to give into our greed.

In Africa, surveys show that an estimated 70% of people believe that Bitcoin was invented by the devil himself. There's a reason for this. It's a very sensitive issue that today is generally referred to as "the tragedy". The African Union had ambitious plans to help its citizens be ready to step over to Bitcoin. Governments gave their own citizens cell phones for free, tied to their government ID, and thus government sought to integrate Bitcoin into their economy. All went well, until "the tragedy" that is. A criminal organization, believed to be located in Russia, exploited a hardware fault in the government issued cell phones. It's believed that the entire continent of Africa lost an estimated 60% of its wealth in a period of 48 hours. What followed was a period of chaos and civil war, until the Saudi Arabian and North Korean governments, two of the world's major superpowers due to their authoritarian political system's unique ability to adapt to the "Bitcoin challenge", divided most African land between themselves and were praised as heroes by the local African population for it.

You might wonder, what is our plan now? It's clear that the current situation can not be sustained, without ending in a nuclear holocaust. I am part of an underground network, who seek to launch a coordinated attack against the very infrastructure of the Internet itself. We have at our disposal about 20 nuclear submarines, which we will use to cut all underwater cables between different continents. After this has been successfully achieved, we will launch a simultaneous nuclear pulse attack on every densely population area of the world. We believe that the resulting chaos will allow the world's population to rise up in revolt, and destroy as many computers out there as possible, until we reach the point where Bitcoin loses any relevance.

Of course, this outcome will likely lead to billions of deaths. This is a price we are forced to pay, to avoid the eternal enslavement of humanity to a tiny elite.

This is also the reason we contacted you.

It doesn't have to be like this. You do not have to share our fate. I don't know how, but you must find a way to destroy this godforsaken project in its infancy. I know this is a difficult thing to ask of you. You believed you were helping the world by eliminating the central banking cartel that governs your economies.

However, I have seen where it ends.

I think this is cute and all but I really don't believe it. The account was deleted right after, and there is little to no proof behind his statements. If he actually is from the future why wouldn't he be afraid to prove it? It seems so odd that I actually have to prove that this guy isn't from the future, but people here are willing to believe almost anything. Bitcoin reaching 10k in 2017 is a very common prediction. Furthermore, if he knew how the trend would actually be going, why wouldn't he mention that it actually reached 19k in 2017 instead? Too many holes in this story for me...

[Tyrantt]

I think this is cute and all but I really don't believe it. The account was deleted right after, and there is little to no proof behind his statements. If he actually is from the future why wouldn't he be afraid to prove it? It seems so odd that I actually have to prove that this guy isn't from the future, but people here are willing to believe almost anything. Bitcoin reaching 10k in 2017 is a very common prediction. Furthermore, if he knew how the trend would actually be going, why wouldn't he mention that it actually reached 19k in 2017 instead? Too many holes in this story for me...

Damn, I really thought he really was from the future. :/ Why do you have to prove it? No one said they believe he actually is from the future. It's alright, I think most of us know that he isn't really from the future but thanks for the info.

[vit05]

In my world, soon to be your world, most governments no longer exist, as Bitcoin transactions are done anonymously and thus most governments can enforce no taxation on their citizens. Most of the success of Bitcoin is due to the fact that Bitcoin turned out to be an effective method to hide your wealth from the government. Whereas people entering "rogue states" like Luxemberg, Monaco and Liechtenstein were followed by unmanned drones to ensure that governments know who is hiding wealth, no such option was available to stop people from hiding their money in Bitcoin.

That part is sensational. One of the biggest reasons when the debate is put on the existence of the dollar is about that function is unique to it. You can only pay taxes with the currency issued by your country. We may soon have citizens questioning the need to use only the currency issued by the central bank to pay taxes and fees. Since many people can regularly use Bitcoin to pay for their goods, for their food, to receive their salary etc.

[Jacques_Bittard]

Quite accurate vision of the futures darkest scenario. I recognized many parts of it, that make me despise bitcoin and bitcoiners surrounding it.
      

Why didn't we abandon Bitcoin, and move to another system? Well, we tried of course. We tried to step over to an inflationary cryptocurrency, but nobody with an IQ above 70 was willing to step up first and volunteer. After all, why would you voluntarily invest a lot of your money into a currency where you know your wealth will continually decline? The thing that made Bitcoin so dangerous to society was also what made it so successful. Bitcoin allows us to give into our greed.

Luckily, people with this level of stupidity aren't the majority, so this scenario still has low probability to come true.
I bet that the worst of people here are cheering for the scenario to come true though. Most of the people here don't give a crap what happens to the rest, just as long they get rich.

[davis196]

Economic growth today is about -2% per year. Why is this? If you own more than 0.01 Bitcoin, chances are you don't do anything with your money. There is no inflation, and thus no incentive to invest your money. Just like the medieval ages had no significant economic growth, as wealth was measured in gold, our society has no economic growth either, as people know their 0.01 Bitcoin will be enough to last them a lifetime. The fact that there are still new Bitcoin released is what prevents our world from collapse so far it seems, but people fear that the decline in inflation that will occur during the next block halving may further wreck our economy.

This is ridiculous.This guy doesn`t know anything about how the economy works.The lack of inflation doesn`t mean that there`s no incentive to invest your money.We will use our bitcoins to buy food and clothes,pay the bills and fuel our cars with gas.The only thing that drives an economy to grow is the demand for goods and services.This guy thinks that all goods and services will disappear in the future.
The meadieval ages had no economic growth because of other reasons,not because of the gold ,being used as the main currency.

[Kim Ji Won]

Oh great! another Nostradamus wannabe in the community. I didn't even bother to read the whole story, reading the first few words, I already figured how the story will go. Here is a fun fact for all of you guys for those who are always getting carried away by this kind of predictions that causes FUDs all over the community. There are tons of people in the crypto world that is doing baseless predictions and claiming what will happen to the future of cryptocurrencies without any conclusive evidence, and chances are, a few of those people will somehow get a correct prediction at some point then he/she can continue to live and pass on the tale. I hope you guys get my point.

[batang_bitcoin]

I've seen this again and I thought before he's really from the future but I like the idea on how he gives his positive speculation to bitcoin. But if this for real then we just have to hold until 2021 so basically next year $100,000 = 1 bitcoin. Dang, I was near on believing again after reading this and seen those figures.

[vintages]

Lol...the post title made me open the thread but seeing that its Reddit   oh Lord...will they never cease to amaze me. I read the whole article. I don't believe in time travellers though but the way the guy seems to lay down his claims might force some people to believe him and whoever backed out from bitcoin because of these is just a confuse being. True, we don't know what the future hold, we'll just wait to see it.

[Jacques_Bittard]

Economic growth today is about -2% per year. Why is this? If you own more than 0.01 Bitcoin, chances are you don't do anything with your money. There is no inflation, and thus no incentive to invest your money. Just like the medieval ages had no significant economic growth, as wealth was measured in gold, our society has no economic growth either, as people know their 0.01 Bitcoin will be enough to last them a lifetime. The fact that there are still new Bitcoin released is what prevents our world from collapse so far it seems, but people fear that the decline in inflation that will occur during the next block halving may further wreck our economy.

This is ridiculous.This guy doesn`t know anything about how the economy works.The lack of inflation doesn`t mean that there`s no incentive to invest your money.We will use our bitcoins to buy food and clothes,pay the bills and fuel our cars with gas.The only thing that drives an economy to grow is the demand for goods and services.This guy thinks that all goods and services will disappear in the future.
The meadieval ages had no economic growth because of other reasons,not because of the gold ,being used as the main currency.

It is especially ugly when someone clearly stupid in economics, tries to insult someone else for this.
The economy is not only ran by you paying the bills or fueling your car. There are also companies out there worth hundreds of billions. They are the ones who will decide on the economy, not you and your unimportant amount of wealth. And if it's more profitable to be liquid, then to use this money for new investments, then it's not hard to guess on the outcome. It just wouldn't be profitable to invest anywhere, since just sitting on your pile of cash would be risk free profit.

Some bitcoiners are stupid enough to miss this. But majority understand this, and they just don't care. They are blinded by greed and can't notice anything other then their own wallets getting fatter.
Some of the worst people I have met, are from the cryptocurrency scenery.

[Raimy]

Obviously no predictions what so ever, I don't know why you credit him for his $10k prediction in 2017 when instead it was actually $20,000. Why no mention of that? Also his 2013 prediction of $100 did not mention the $1,200 high that year, nor the subsequent crash back to $100-$200 the year after.

I know this is all in good fun, but please don't even for a second claim he or anyone else was a prophet. I am sure if you counted up the posts from then, there would be just as many predictions claiming $10k in 2017 as there were ones saying it would drop to $0 in 2018.

[bitmover]

...as the value increased by a factor ten every two years, to 1,000 dollar in 2015, to 10,000 in 2017, 100,000 in 2019, and 1,000,000 in 2021. From here onwards, there's no good way of expressing its value in dollars, as the dollar is no longer used...

This is the best part for me, there's no good way of expressing bitcoin value in dollars, as dollar is no longer used lol

[BagzMM]

...as the value increased by a factor ten every two years, to 1,000 dollar in 2015, to 10,000 in 2017, 100,000 in 2019, and 1,000,000 in 2021. From here onwards, there's no good way of expressing its value in dollars, as the dollar is no longer used...

This is the best part for me, there's no good way of expressing bitcoin value in dollars, as dollar is no longer used lol

Woow, I wish for that to happen as I must hold all I have in hopes for a fortune. Whoever he is it seems a good perdition that bitcoin is real and this is the future of digital currency. Thanks for sharing.

[rizkyhiw]

Perhaps this man who foresaw this, someone very clever in this field of prediction, can see several years later, will it predict me for the future? Will I become a very rich millionaire? I realize that the prediction is just luck, sometimes when our struggle can be stopped quickly.
but I do not really believe in predictions predictions that can persuade a person to quit, maybe the person does not have confidence, indeed the future becomes a mystery.

[Lucius]

This is Reddit post, originally posted in 2014 by  Luka Magnotta
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1lfobc/i_am_a_timetraveler_from_the_future_here_to_beg/

I think the most impressive is the date. How come 4 years ago this guy predicted bitcoin price would reach 10k USD in 2017?

This is a very good reading, hope you guys enjoy. Some people may have read it already.

I think I know how this guy "from the future" predict 10 000$ for 2017,he just watch TimDraper2014Prediction ,so maybe Tim is also came from the future...No he is not from future and I see this reddit post few time on this forum,every time I read it I find some extra nonsense in it.

For instance "There are just over 19 million Bitcoin known to be used in the world today",but we all know that millions of BTC are lost over the years,estimates are around 3-5 million have disappeared irretrievably.

Another incredible stupidity is that this timetraveler and his buddies will take 20 nuclear submarines and solve problem of the world by nuke "every densely population area".This is just a bad scenario for some low-cost science fiction movie...

[gentlemand]

I think this is cute and all but I really don't believe it. The account was deleted right after, and there is little to no proof behind his statements. If he actually is from the future why wouldn't he be afraid to prove it? It seems so odd that I actually have to prove that this guy isn't from the future, but people here are willing to believe almost anything. Bitcoin reaching 10k in 2017 is a very common prediction. Furthermore, if he knew how the trend would actually be going, why wouldn't he mention that it actually reached 19k in 2017 instead? Too many holes in this story for me...

I'm preparing a lawsuit for having my chain yanked by this guy. Join me.

If there's one thing that gets my goat it's time travellers who do nothing but prick tease. I know a handful who have done the decent thing and shown me their hovering beard trimmers and talking lawns, but the rest didn't and can go hang as far as I'm concerned.

I myself am my very own great grandfather but I don't like to reflect on it.

[northcoin2018]

This is Reddit post, originally posted in 2014 by  Luka Magnotta
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1lfobc/i_am_a_timetraveler_from_the_future_here_to_beg/

I think the most impressive is the date. How come 4 years ago this guy predicted bitcoin price would reach 10k USD in 2017?

This is a very good reading, hope you guys enjoy. Some people may have read it already.



I am sending this message from the year 2025. Things are looking bleak here, and some of you will carry blood on your hands.

If you don't believe me, please move on, as I have no way of proving to you I'm really who I claim to be.

I don't want to waste any of your time, so I'm merely going to explain what happened.

On average, every year so far, the value of Bitcoin has increased by about a factor ten. From 0.1 dollar in 2010, to 1 dollar in 2011, to 10 dollar in 2012, to 100 dollar in 2013. From now on, there's a slight slowdown, as the value increased by a factor ten every two years, to 1,000 dollar in 2015, to 10,000 in 2017, 100,000 in 2019, and 1,000,000 in 2021. From here onwards, there's no good way of expressing its value in dollars, as the dollar is no longer used, nor is any central bank issued currency for that matter. There are two main forms of wealth in today's world. Land and cryptocurrency.

There are just over 19 million Bitcoin known to be used in the world today, as well as a few hundred thousand that were permanently lost, and we're still dealing with a population of just over 7 billion people today. On average, this means the average person owns just under 0.003 bitcoin. However, due to the unequal distribution of wealth in my world, the mean person owns just 0.001 bitcoin. That's right, most of you reading this today are rich. I personally live next to an annoying young man who logged into his old Reddit account two years ago and discovered that he received a tip of 0.01 Bitcoin back in 2013 for calling someone a "faggot" when he was a 16 year old boy. Upon making this discovery he bought an airline ticket, left his house without telling anyone anything and went to a Citadel.

"What is a Citadel?" you might wonder. Well, by the time Bitcoin became worth 1,000 dollar, services began to emerge for the "Bitcoin rich" to protect themselves as well as their wealth. It started with expensive safes, then began to include bodyguards, and today, "earlies" (our term for early adapters), as well as those rich whose wealth survived the "transition" live in isolated gated cities called Citadels, where most work is automated. Most such Citadels are born out of the fortification used to protect places where Bitcoin mining machines are located. The company known as ASICminer to you is known to me as a city where Mr. Friedman rules as a king.

In my world, soon to be your world, most governments no longer exist, as Bitcoin transactions are done anonymously and thus most governments can enforce no taxation on their citizens. Most of the success of Bitcoin is due to the fact that Bitcoin turned out to be an effective method to hide your wealth from the government. Whereas people entering "rogue states" like Luxemberg, Monaco and Liechtenstein were followed by unmanned drones to ensure that governments know who is hiding wealth, no such option was available to stop people from hiding their money in Bitcoin.

Governments tried to stay relevant in my society by buying Bitcoin, which just made the problem worse, by increasing the value of Bitcoin. Governments did so in secret of course, but my generation's "Snowdens" are in fact greedy government employees who transferred Bitcoin to their own private account, and escaped to anarchic places where no questions are asked as long as you can cough up some money.

The four institutions with the largest still accessible Bitcoin balance are believed to be as following:

-ASICminer - 50,000 Bitcoin

-The IMF's "currency stabilization fund" - 70,000 Bitcoin

-Government of Saudi Arabia - 110,000 Bitcoin

-The North Korean government - 180,000 Bitcoin

Economic growth today is about -2% per year. Why is this? If you own more than 0.01 Bitcoin, chances are you don't do anything with your money. There is no inflation, and thus no incentive to invest your money. Just like the medieval ages had no significant economic growth, as wealth was measured in gold, our society has no economic growth either, as people know their 0.01 Bitcoin will be enough to last them a lifetime. The fact that there are still new Bitcoin released is what prevents our world from collapse so far it seems, but people fear that the decline in inflation that will occur during the next block halving may further wreck our economy.

What happened to the Winklevoss twins? The Winklevoss twins were among the first to die. After seeing the enormous damage done to the fabric of society, terrorist movements emerged that sought to hunt down and murder anyone known to have a large balance of Bitcoin, or believed to be responsible in any way for the development of cryptocurrency. Ironically, these terrorist movements use Bitcoin to anonymously fund their operations.

Most people who own any significant amount of Bitcoin no longer speak to their families and lost their friends, because they had to change their identities. There have been also been a few suicides of people who could not handle the guilt after seeing what happened to the bag-holders, the type of skeptical people who continued to believe it would eventually collapse, even after hearing the rumors of governments buying Bitcoin. Many people were taken hostage, and thus, it is suspected that 25% percent of "Bitcoin rich" actually physically tortured someone to get him to spill his password.

Why didn't we abandon Bitcoin, and move to another system? Well, we tried of course. We tried to step over to an inflationary cryptocurrency, but nobody with an IQ above 70 was willing to step up first and volunteer. After all, why would you voluntarily invest a lot of your money into a currency where you know your wealth will continually decline? The thing that made Bitcoin so dangerous to society was also what made it so successful. Bitcoin allows us to give into our greed.

In Africa, surveys show that an estimated 70% of people believe that Bitcoin was invented by the devil himself. There's a reason for this. It's a very sensitive issue that today is generally referred to as "the tragedy". The African Union had ambitious plans to help its citizens be ready to step over to Bitcoin. Governments gave their own citizens cell phones for free, tied to their government ID, and thus government sought to integrate Bitcoin into their economy. All went well, until "the tragedy" that is. A criminal organization, believed to be located in Russia, exploited a hardware fault in the government issued cell phones. It's believed that the entire continent of Africa lost an estimated 60% of its wealth in a period of 48 hours. What followed was a period of chaos and civil war, until the Saudi Arabian and North Korean governments, two of the world's major superpowers due to their authoritarian political system's unique ability to adapt to the "Bitcoin challenge", divided most African land between themselves and were praised as heroes by the local African population for it.

You might wonder, what is our plan now? It's clear that the current situation can not be sustained, without ending in a nuclear holocaust. I am part of an underground network, who seek to launch a coordinated attack against the very infrastructure of the Internet itself. We have at our disposal about 20 nuclear submarines, which we will use to cut all underwater cables between different continents. After this has been successfully achieved, we will launch a simultaneous nuclear pulse attack on every densely population area of the world. We believe that the resulting chaos will allow the world's population to rise up in revolt, and destroy as many computers out there as possible, until we reach the point where Bitcoin loses any relevance.

Of course, this outcome will likely lead to billions of deaths. This is a price we are forced to pay, to avoid the eternal enslavement of humanity to a tiny elite.

This is also the reason we contacted you.

It doesn't have to be like this. You do not have to share our fate. I don't know how, but you must find a way to destroy this godforsaken project in its infancy. I know this is a difficult thing to ask of you. You believed you were helping the world by eliminating the central banking cartel that governs your economies.

However, I have seen where it ends.

Is this for real?.. Sounds legit. I believe in time traveliers..I hope this is just a joke because i have high hopes for bitcoin to boom and make our society a better place to live in. Bitcoin for developments not to destruction of peace and order of human civilization.

[liamnorthcoins]

This is Reddit post, originally posted in 2014 by  Luka Magnotta
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1lfobc/i_am_a_timetraveler_from_the_future_here_to_beg/

I think the most impressive is the date. How come 4 years ago this guy predicted bitcoin price would reach 10k USD in 2017?

This is a very good reading, hope you guys enjoy. Some people may have read it already.



I am sending this message from the year 2025. Things are looking bleak here, and some of you will carry blood on your hands.

If you don't believe me, please move on, as I have no way of proving to you I'm really who I claim to be.

I don't want to waste any of your time, so I'm merely going to explain what happened.

On average, every year so far, the value of Bitcoin has increased by about a factor ten. From 0.1 dollar in 2010, to 1 dollar in 2011, to 10 dollar in 2012, to 100 dollar in 2013. From now on, there's a slight slowdown, as the value increased by a factor ten every two years, to 1,000 dollar in 2015, to 10,000 in 2017, 100,000 in 2019, and 1,000,000 in 2021. From here onwards, there's no good way of expressing its value in dollars, as the dollar is no longer used, nor is any central bank issued currency for that matter. There are two main forms of wealth in today's world. Land and cryptocurrency.

There are just over 19 million Bitcoin known to be used in the world today, as well as a few hundred thousand that were permanently lost, and we're still dealing with a population of just over 7 billion people today. On average, this means the average person owns just under 0.003 bitcoin. However, due to the unequal distribution of wealth in my world, the mean person owns just 0.001 bitcoin. That's right, most of you reading this today are rich. I personally live next to an annoying young man who logged into his old Reddit account two years ago and discovered that he received a tip of 0.01 Bitcoin back in 2013 for calling someone a "faggot" when he was a 16 year old boy. Upon making this discovery he bought an airline ticket, left his house without telling anyone anything and went to a Citadel.

"What is a Citadel?" you might wonder. Well, by the time Bitcoin became worth 1,000 dollar, services began to emerge for the "Bitcoin rich" to protect themselves as well as their wealth. It started with expensive safes, then began to include bodyguards, and today, "earlies" (our term for early adapters), as well as those rich whose wealth survived the "transition" live in isolated gated cities called Citadels, where most work is automated. Most such Citadels are born out of the fortification used to protect places where Bitcoin mining machines are located. The company known as ASICminer to you is known to me as a city where Mr. Friedman rules as a king.

In my world, soon to be your world, most governments no longer exist, as Bitcoin transactions are done anonymously and thus most governments can enforce no taxation on their citizens. Most of the success of Bitcoin is due to the fact that Bitcoin turned out to be an effective method to hide your wealth from the government. Whereas people entering "rogue states" like Luxemberg, Monaco and Liechtenstein were followed by unmanned drones to ensure that governments know who is hiding wealth, no such option was available to stop people from hiding their money in Bitcoin.

Governments tried to stay relevant in my society by buying Bitcoin, which just made the problem worse, by increasing the value of Bitcoin. Governments did so in secret of course, but my generation's "Snowdens" are in fact greedy government employees who transferred Bitcoin to their own private account, and escaped to anarchic places where no questions are asked as long as you can cough up some money.

The four institutions with the largest still accessible Bitcoin balance are believed to be as following:

-ASICminer - 50,000 Bitcoin

-The IMF's "currency stabilization fund" - 70,000 Bitcoin

-Government of Saudi Arabia - 110,000 Bitcoin

-The North Korean government - 180,000 Bitcoin

Economic growth today is about -2% per year. Why is this? If you own more than 0.01 Bitcoin, chances are you don't do anything with your money. There is no inflation, and thus no incentive to invest your money. Just like the medieval ages had no significant economic growth, as wealth was measured in gold, our society has no economic growth either, as people know their 0.01 Bitcoin will be enough to last them a lifetime. The fact that there are still new Bitcoin released is what prevents our world from collapse so far it seems, but people fear that the decline in inflation that will occur during the next block halving may further wreck our economy.

What happened to the Winklevoss twins? The Winklevoss twins were among the first to die. After seeing the enormous damage done to the fabric of society, terrorist movements emerged that sought to hunt down and murder anyone known to have a large balance of Bitcoin, or believed to be responsible in any way for the development of cryptocurrency. Ironically, these terrorist movements use Bitcoin to anonymously fund their operations.

Most people who own any significant amount of Bitcoin no longer speak to their families and lost their friends, because they had to change their identities. There have been also been a few suicides of people who could not handle the guilt after seeing what happened to the bag-holders, the type of skeptical people who continued to believe it would eventually collapse, even after hearing the rumors of governments buying Bitcoin. Many people were taken hostage, and thus, it is suspected that 25% percent of "Bitcoin rich" actually physically tortured someone to get him to spill his password.

Why didn't we abandon Bitcoin, and move to another system? Well, we tried of course. We tried to step over to an inflationary cryptocurrency, but nobody with an IQ above 70 was willing to step up first and volunteer. After all, why would you voluntarily invest a lot of your money into a currency where you know your wealth will continually decline? The thing that made Bitcoin so dangerous to society was also what made it so successful. Bitcoin allows us to give into our greed.

In Africa, surveys show that an estimated 70% of people believe that Bitcoin was invented by the devil himself. There's a reason for this. It's a very sensitive issue that today is generally referred to as "the tragedy". The African Union had ambitious plans to help its citizens be ready to step over to Bitcoin. Governments gave their own citizens cell phones for free, tied to their government ID, and thus government sought to integrate Bitcoin into their economy. All went well, until "the tragedy" that is. A criminal organization, believed to be located in Russia, exploited a hardware fault in the government issued cell phones. It's believed that the entire continent of Africa lost an estimated 60% of its wealth in a period of 48 hours. What followed was a period of chaos and civil war, until the Saudi Arabian and North Korean governments, two of the world's major superpowers due to their authoritarian political system's unique ability to adapt to the "Bitcoin challenge", divided most African land between themselves and were praised as heroes by the local African population for it.

You might wonder, what is our plan now? It's clear that the current situation can not be sustained, without ending in a nuclear holocaust. I am part of an underground network, who seek to launch a coordinated attack against the very infrastructure of the Internet itself. We have at our disposal about 20 nuclear submarines, which we will use to cut all underwater cables between different continents. After this has been successfully achieved, we will launch a simultaneous nuclear pulse attack on every densely population area of the world. We believe that the resulting chaos will allow the world's population to rise up in revolt, and destroy as many computers out there as possible, until we reach the point where Bitcoin loses any relevance.

Of course, this outcome will likely lead to billions of deaths. This is a price we are forced to pay, to avoid the eternal enslavement of humanity to a tiny elite.

This is also the reason we contacted you.

It doesn't have to be like this. You do not have to share our fate. I don't know how, but you must find a way to destroy this godforsaken project in its infancy. I know this is a difficult thing to ask of you. You believed you were helping the world by eliminating the central banking cartel that governs your economies.

However, I have seen where it ends.

If this is real then big nations with real advance technologies who also are into time travelling would have put a total ban for bitcoin. (Total ban as to NOT TO EVEN MENTION ABOUT BITCOIN). If bitcoin would really lead to the world's destruction as to what he is claiming then we would'nt be posting anything in this furom at all. Our very own existence in this furom is the very reason that it is false. And more likely this is another move to defame bitcoin so to protect his personal interests.

[Tyrantt]

off-topic: I think there's no reason to quote the whole OP post when it's this long.

[figmentofmyass]

If this is real

Is this for real?.. Sounds legit.

seriously, guys? four years later, we have the benefit of hindsight. this little detail is all you need to know the post was bullshit:

The four institutions with the largest still accessible Bitcoin balance are believed to be as following:

-ASICminer - 50,000 Bitcoin

does ASICminer even exist anymore? i remember a few years ago trading AM shares was all the rage. i guess this guy didn't predict the demise of ASICminer and the rise of bitmain.

pretty good story though. 9/10. would read again.

[gentlemand]

If this is real

Is this for real?.. Sounds legit.

seriously, guys? four years later, we have the benefit of hindsight. this little detail is all you need to know the post was bullshit:

Is this entire thread satire, or is it some type of daycare facility for people who've suffered brain injuries, strokes or dementia?

A reasonable percentage of people seem to believe that quote is from an actual time traveller... I'm not sure I have the words.

But it is clearer now why so many painfully obvious scams are a wonderful success.

[Firoz721]

I like Lukas post.

[cryptocrusher]

This was a really intriguing read and a lot of things in this prediction will come true, but probably not because of Bitcoin. It interestingly tied a lot of sci-fi stories in to BTC's potential. I wonder what happened to Satoshi's 4m bitcoin. Assuming he's already dead and those wallets are inaccessible, someone must have found a way.

[kryptqnick]

The post is written in a great attracting manner, that makes you keep reading. However, it's more unrealistic that accurate. Yeah, this guy predicted $10k, but his $100k for 2019 is probably a seriously overrated prediction.
Almost no governments in 7 years? That's also extremely weird. The govs are not only responsible for taxes and economic stability. There are other political, organizational and legal issues they will keep solving even if mass adoption really happens.
Apart from that, this person suggests that deflationary economics in bad in the long run, while Japan has been doing pretty good with it, and the topic is not researched enough.
The story is too dystopian and totally ignores altcoins which are playing a significant part today. Anyway, nice to read, but totally not convincing to dump bitcoin 

[el kaka22]

Already quite wrong but I do like a good creative reading. The part that really corrupted the whole thing and destroyed the magic was the citadel, having bitcoin at $100k in 2019 is still possible, hell even one million dollars in 2021 is still possible, if he moved the topic further into that he could have been fine.

Nevertheless, he went to the route where there was kingdoms of miners and people who hide in places where rich bitcoin folk would live without working ever and so forth. He didn't had to move the discussion to a futuristic unreal thing if he only kept with the prices.

We have nothing major changing in our world or at least in our day to day lives that promotes the fact that by 2025 there will be automated cities. Maybe cars? That seems like the only futuristic thing we could hope for. Good concept, bad execution.

[cryptocrusher]

The author: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luka_Magnotta

Posted by: cryptocrusher

I wonder what happened to Satoshi's 4m bitcoin. Assuming he's already dead

He is not.

Well, no one can know that for sure, except for people who may know who he truly is. For the rest of us we can only speculate and logically you would think there's some reason those wallets remain untouched, I have to think that it's because they're not accessible anymore because the information was lost through one path or another. But in this example they were not accounted for so must have been recovered somehow.

[bitmover]

What is interesting about the text is not the debate about if it is fictional or not. Of course it is a fictional text, the guy didn't travel in time.

What is interesting is the whole concept of what he idealized. Bitcoin going to millions, Reddit tips becoming more money than you ever dreamed of, the citadel for Bitcoin riches, etc.

It is an extrapolation of the reality we all experienced already: 20million dollars pizza is real ,for example

[gabmen]

What is interesting about the text is not the debate about if it is fictional or not. Of course it is a fictional text, the guy didn't travel in time.

What is interesting is the whole concept of what he idealized. Bitcoin going to millions, Reddit tips becoming more money than you ever dreamed of, the citadel for Bitcoin riches, etc.

It is an extrapolation of the reality we all experienced already: 20million dollars pizza is real ,for example

Lol. We're having quite a lot of time travellers already here in the forums nowadays lol. Though i agree with some of your points dude, the time traveller's thoughts were a bit overblown for me. I do believe that btc will have a very essential part to play and it may value quite a lot but not to that extent.

[LoyceMobile]

So in short: we're all going to die rich, but in a few years already.

While we're at it: what if satoshi was a time traveler who created Bitcoin to take his private keys back to the future?