VectorDash - Rent GPUs to AI researchers. $7.68 per 1080ti per day

[Max Likelihood]

Many good points have been made and I agree with most. My biggest concern would be that even if it gets going, it will flounder and be abandoned in a few months without focused, mature leadership. It is easy to have a good idea and show small scale proof of concept, much harder to scale it and stay with it in a competitive environment.

[-Lani-]

Guys be careful... There's some info missing on that site. Company information, min payout etc etc.. Are you really giving some anonymous person access to your system?
They also wanna know how much disk space you got etc.

Just think of it. With access to your system, they could easily:

- host warez, illegal porn, illegal software, illegal services, ...
- install mallware
- use your server as a proxy
- use your server as part of a botnet
...

Be careful folks, that's all I'm saying.

Its better than to mine and to owe for electricity. You go in jail that way too

[Regulater]

Its a very viable platform, now the support for any GPU under a 1080/1070 is a little ridiculous. This is what Golem is doing, but being released a lot earlier and without millions in funding required. His cut is 50%, so its very viable for this to be applicable, and if done correctly this could take off. Ofcourse many places will not go to a company that just started, but if they were to use funding to advertise and contract with companies and schools at a lower rate than they are advertising it could easily take off and become like a nicehash but for rendering and machine learning, etc.

[BitBustah]

Guys be careful... There's some info missing on that site. Company information, min payout etc etc.. Are you really giving some anonymous person access to your system?
They also wanna know how much disk space you got etc.

Just think of it. With access to your system, they could easily:

- host warez, illegal porn, illegal software, illegal services, ...
- install mallware
- use your server as a proxy
- use your server as part of a botnet
...

Be careful folks, that's all I'm saying.

Its better than to mine and to owe for electricity. You go in jail that way too

Or you don't mine when you can't pay for electricity.... Or you don't go to the store to buy something when you don't have the money... 

[astros]

Welcome to QQ group to discuss vectordash: 532749652

[NetopyrMan]

so i recieved minimum requirements (by mail):
i dont say its something expensive, but still its not what a common miner can offer in great numbers (like 30 gpu with 5 cpus .... this means i need to buy rests for 30 PCs ... or for 5 at least)
till i dont know income per day, its "a bit huge" investment


For each GPU you plan on hosting, your machine should have at least:

a PCIe 3.0 x8 or x16 slot
1 CPU Core from one of the following CPUs (or equivalent):
Intel i5 or above
Intel Xeon
AMD Ryzen or AMD EPYC
4+ GB RAM for Nvidia 1070 and below, 8+ GB of RAM for Nvidia 1070ti and above
50+ GB Storage per GPU
Internet upload & download speeds of at least 15 Mbps

[Bimmber]

Exactly what I thought when I got their email today. Not many miners can provide this.

[Max Likelihood]

Seems prohibitive at any sort of scale.

[namelessaaa]

so i recieved minimum requirements (by mail):
i dont say its something expensive, but still its not what a common miner can offer in great numbers (like 30 gpu with 5 cpus .... this means i need to buy rests for 30 PCs ... or for 5 at least)
till i dont know income per day, its "a bit huge" investment


For each GPU you plan on hosting, your machine should have at least:

a PCIe 3.0 x8 or x16 slot
1 CPU Core from one of the following CPUs (or equivalent):
Intel i5 or above
Intel Xeon
AMD Ryzen or AMD EPYC
4+ GB RAM for Nvidia 1070 and below, 8+ GB of RAM for Nvidia 1070ti and above
50+ GB Storage per GPU
Internet upload & download speeds of at least 15 Mbps

There still no stable riser can provide PCIE 1.0 x8, not to mention PCIE 3.0.

And the normal motherboard can only provide PCIE 3.0 x8 *2.

Maybe a GPU miner have 2 GPU on motherboard, and other card just like old method, can gain more profit and possible?

[NetopyrMan]

There still no stable riser can provide PCIE 1.0 x8, not to mention PCIE 3.0.

And the normal motherboard can only provide PCIE 3.0 x8 *2.

Maybe a GPU miner have 2 GPU on motherboard, and other card just like old method, can gain more profit and possible?

- i have full pcie x16 riser in my pc (original Lian-Li)
- full atx mb (actualy "ANY" mb) has x16 and there are some, that have more than that (its in board pcie lines ... so you can have mb with 2* x16 pcie + usb3 + etc ....my mb has 24pcie lines and its nothing super extreme)

- i dont think this method will work ... i think that "AI miners" are for total use of whole system and there will be no room for anything else ... so your cpu will lose in power vs XY gpus (1 for AI, rest for common mining) ... yes you can improve power of cpu for something like 8cores+8ht which "can handle both processes" but WHY??? the price of this cpu is absurd and if we dont know income per card per day, its investment as hell

[nsummy]

Rent gpu to AI researchers?

Sorry but I call this BS phishing attempt, mainly because why would any serious AI researchers first turn to a miner forum - regular people, instead of going to some high class universities/ some other institutes...etc. anywhere in the world and collaborate with their departments there?
I'm sure lots of universities/institutes would be open for these kinds of things and are well funded for these kind of projects if there's a good initiative...

If it's fishy, it's usually because it is...

just my 2 cents.

Ever heard of Folding@Home?  Stanford University a very well off private college uses GPUs from regular people all over the world to research diseases.  Universities aren't exactly bottomless pits of money.

[nsummy]

There still no stable riser can provide PCIE 1.0 x8, not to mention PCIE 3.0.

And the normal motherboard can only provide PCIE 3.0 x8 *2.

Maybe a GPU miner have 2 GPU on motherboard, and other card just like old method, can gain more profit and possible?

- i have full pcie x16 riser in my pc (original Lian-Li)
- full atx mb (actualy "ANY" mb) has x16 and there are some, that have more than that (its in board pcie lines ... so you can have mb with 2* x16 pcie + usb3 + etc ....my mb has 24pcie lines and its nothing super extreme)

- i dont think this method will work ... i think that "AI miners" are for total use of whole system and there will be no room for anything else ... so your cpu will lose in power vs XY gpus (1 for AI, rest for common mining) ... yes you can improve power of cpu for something like 8cores+8ht which "can handle both processes" but WHY??? the price of this cpu is absurd and if we dont know income per card per day, its investment as hell

I think the site is pretty clear about the income per card.  The requirements are not that extreme.  I'm not an AI or research expert but I have quite a bit of experience running Folding@Home for Curecoin.  In that instance each GPU would take up a whole CPU core and lower PCIE bandwidth equaled lower performance.  I don't think its unreasonable for this site to require basic specs that you would find a in a data center.  You can get an older Xeon cpu and mobo for dirt cheap on ebay.  This service is essentially renting your machine out as a cloud server.  Their aim isn't someone running 8 cards on a shitty Chinese motherboard from Alibaba with a celeron embedded chip.

[Elder III]

The only prohibitive issue I can see is the amount of PCIE 3.0 x8 or x16 slots.... that rules out all of the mining specific motherboards.  The amount of hard drive space is a potential issue too, but that can be solved. This could possibly work well for our personal desktops since they all meet the requirements and could make some $ while doing office type work at the same time. I'm curious if they really only use 1 CPU core or not though...

[namelessaaa]

There still no stable riser can provide PCIE 1.0 x8, not to mention PCIE 3.0.

And the normal motherboard can only provide PCIE 3.0 x8 *2.

Maybe a GPU miner have 2 GPU on motherboard, and other card just like old method, can gain more profit and possible?

- i have full pcie x16 riser in my pc (original Lian-Li)
- full atx mb (actualy "ANY" mb) has x16 and there are some, that have more than that (its in board pcie lines ... so you can have mb with 2* x16 pcie + usb3 + etc ....my mb has 24pcie lines and its nothing super extreme)

- i dont think this method will work ... i think that "AI miners" are for total use of whole system and there will be no room for anything else ... so your cpu will lose in power vs XY gpus (1 for AI, rest for common mining) ... yes you can improve power of cpu for something like 8cores+8ht which "can handle both processes" but WHY??? the price of this cpu is absurd and if we dont know income per card per day, its investment as hell

I think the site is pretty clear about the income per card.  The requirements are not that extreme.  I'm not an AI or research expert but I have quite a bit of experience running Folding@Home for Curecoin.  In that instance each GPU would take up a whole CPU core and lower PCIE bandwidth equaled lower performance.  I don't think its unreasonable for this site to require basic specs that you would find a in a data center.  You can get an older Xeon cpu and mobo for dirt cheap on ebay.  This service is essentially renting your machine out as a cloud server.  Their aim isn't someone running 8 cards on a shitty Chinese motherboard from Alibaba with a celeron embedded chip.

Sorry for my ignorance about the some new hardware and requirement.
Of course a better CPU, a better motherboard is needed for higher requirement.
But for increasing revenue, people will try to optimize their configuration.

[Myffas]

Anyone gave it a try yet ?

[NetopyrMan]

i didnt reciedved link for downloads yet coz:
We'll be reaching out to hosts individually once you've been chosen for a batch!

and i think i will give a try on 5 pcs at least .... problem is not in hw itself still can be sold as gaming pc with easy
problem in "my city" is in connectivity ... yes my home is under optic fiber but mining place has only 5Mb up now and if dev need 15Mb for 1 gpu ......

[lunobird]

Will it support windows. I'm ready to geek out and build an ai mining rig to spec if this works. Mining coins is dead. This is the new frontier gold Rush

[andresrp]

Anyone tried it out?

[colomine]

I reached out to them a few times in March and April and received no response whatsoever. I have later  seen a youtube video from one guy who quoted their requirements for PCs they emailed to somepeople (I was not lucky to get this email). By the way they set a minimum requirement at one GPU per machine which means you would need  around 100 PCs alltogether for them to consider you. I though if they are serious I could make that investment provided there are any guarantees from their side that they even launch. I contacted them again saying I could meet those requirements and asked for more info. It was a month ago. Still no answer.
It does not look serious at all to me. With that type of attitude developers if there are any and their project simply do not deserve your time.

[schriss]

Why did they not use something legit like https://boinc.berkeley.edu/ to submit their project there? Instead, they offer unrealistic gains.
"High-throughput computing with BOINC
Scientists : use BOINC to create a volunteer computing project , giving you the power of thousands of CPUs and GPUs.
Universities : use BOINC to create a Virtual Campus Supercomputing Center .
Companies : use BOINC for desktop Grid computing ."

I guess we know the answer.