Why is it market manipulation if price goes down and then up...

[Junglee]

Why is it market manipulation if price goes down and then up... Isn't that what markets do?
Because there are a small handful of whales buying or selling large amounts of bitcoin all at once. They do this to move the market one direction or another with the purpose of inducing fomo or panic selling. Then they cash in on stupid/ignorant investors. So the little guy gets hosed again and again.
Obviously, which is why you should only buy dips and only sell after a run. Whales make money tricking others into panic selling for a loss or tricking them to buy after a pump. Basic market psychology.

[Agaton]

Market manipulation, is what people says when price moves up and down, but let us consider about manipulation system, maybe only those large investors can manipulate the price, but there is no such evidence that proves about manipulation, maybe manipulation is only beyond speculations and imagination and without proof of evidence.

[mummybtc]

This is price manipualtion when you see a whale setting huge sell order to create a panic sale and trigger the book order, it is of public opinion that there are market maker and these can easily be seen on most exchanges when price is pumping at incredible rate.

[cryptonero]

This is how the market works and you should know how to adjust in every situations,these financial instituions are burning billions of dollars to manipulate the bitcoin's value so that in return they will have more than their investment.As a trader you should know how these people moves to that you will be 2step ahead from their plans.

[Gekkoo]

Ability to adapt this is the difference that makes the big and the small, the topic is interesting demonstrating that indignation can lead to evolve and grow as an investor. In short, getting into the wave of whales can be profitable is the law of nature they are and is reality of themarket.

[zerocashdev]

Surely agree with you , they manipulate us to buy for best prices
And a lot of people loose their money on its manipulations 

[chesatochi]

The only purpose why the whales are doing that is to increase their crypto position on the coins they are trying to manipulate. As you mention, it is best to only buy it on the DIP.

[reypinioco]

You should know that every markets has its own nature,cryptocurrency's is too volatile because its something new and the market capitalization is too small,that is why it is much easier to manipulate compare to forex and stockmarkets which you will need hundred of billions to get it manipulated,there will be sometime that the market of cryptocurrencies will be much harder to manipulate but not today.

[david0ikari]

 ;)More than manipulation it could be cyclic base on sentiment of the market. But the manipulation could cause as well this sentiment. The whales are accumulating at the same time. Only wick hand falling in the trap and loose money. In fact, crypto are better to be kept for long term than short term.

[explosion]

I think the word "manipulation" relates better to the cryptomarket which differs a lot from the markets we are used to. And yes, I believe that large cryptoinvestors manipulate the market in order to get own benefits.

[temilade200]

These are all strategies used by the strong hands in the market. They manipulate the market value of coins for their favour. They are known to spread FUDS and cause serious panic to week hands. I never knew about this, when i first got into cryptocurrency. Immediately i got the orientation that whales take to opportunities and the weak hands in the market or the newbies in trading are usually the victims. Since then, i have refused to be a victim to a crashed market and i will not buy without analysing first, most especially when there is a rise.

[Suslived]

Its market manipulation if you have a billion worth of coins and you use it to your advantage. Just like that ahole of a person Mark who screwed over bitcoin with his Mt. Gox exchange. Can you imagine placing buy/sell orders so large that when people see it they panic? That power can be used daily to make a fortune.

[sunX3]

Why is it market manipulation if price goes down and then up... Isn't that what markets do?
Because there are a small handful of whales buying or selling large amounts of bitcoin all at once. They do this to move the market one direction or another with the purpose of inducing fomo or panic selling. Then they cash in on stupid/ignorant investors. So the little guy gets hosed again and again.
Obviously, which is why you should only buy dips and only sell after a run. Whales make money tricking others into panic selling for a loss or tricking them to buy after a pump. Basic market psychology.

No one can really say for sure if it's the whales that are manipulating the markets or not. In most cases I think it's probably just people being paranoid.

[tdeannova]

Why is it market manipulation if price goes down and then up... Isn't that what markets do?
Because there are a small handful of whales buying or selling large amounts of bitcoin all at once. They do this to move the market one direction or another with the purpose of inducing fomo or panic selling. Then they cash in on stupid/ignorant investors. So the little guy gets hosed again and again.
Obviously, which is why you should only buy dips and only sell after a run. Whales make money tricking others into panic selling for a loss or tricking them to buy after a pump. Basic market psychology.

if the market has been manipulated, how do we overcome and avoid the loss?
so, whether we should only buy dips and only sell after a run?

[VenturaBro]

Why is it market manipulation if price goes down and then up... Isn't that what markets do?
Because there are a small handful of whales buying or selling large amounts of bitcoin all at once. They do this to move the market one direction or another with the purpose of inducing fomo or panic selling. Then they cash in on stupid/ignorant investors. So the little guy gets hosed again and again.
Obviously, which is why you should only buy dips and only sell after a run. Whales make money tricking others into panic selling for a loss or tricking them to buy after a pump. Basic market psychology.

if the market has been manipulated, how do we overcome and avoid the loss?
so, whether we should only buy dips and only sell after a run?

I don't think there's much we can really do about it if the whales are really manipulating it. Probably just hodl and hope for the best. Not much else comes to mind.

[Johnyz]

I think the word "manipulation" relates better to the cryptomarket which differs a lot from the markets we are used to. And yes, I believe that large cryptoinvestors manipulate the market in order to get own benefits.

Of course they can actually manipulate the market because of their huge holdings, and this might be the reason why the price are keep on falling but we are not so sure about this thing. Let’s just wait for the whales to pump the market again so we can back all our loses.

[awazieik]

Why is it market manipulation if price goes down and then up... Isn't that what markets do?
Because there are a small handful of whales buying or selling large amounts of bitcoin all at once. They do this to move the market one direction or another with the purpose of inducing fomo or panic selling. Then they cash in on stupid/ignorant investors. So the little guy gets hosed again and again.
Obviously, which is why you should only buy dips and only sell after a run. Whales make money tricking others into panic selling for a loss or tricking them to buy after a pump. Basic market psychology.

This is indeed basic market psychology . Unfortunately, there will always be winners and losers. There will always be those who will make a decision based on FUD and greed. This is the madness of the market that will never go away

[ohlawdy]

Why is it market manipulation if price goes down and then up... Isn't that what markets do?
Because there are a small handful of whales buying or selling large amounts of bitcoin all at once. They do this to move the market one direction or another with the purpose of inducing fomo or panic selling. Then they cash in on stupid/ignorant investors. So the little guy gets hosed again and again.
Obviously, which is why you should only buy dips and only sell after a run. Whales make money tricking others into panic selling for a loss or tricking them to buy after a pump. Basic market psychology.

if the market has been manipulated, how do we overcome and avoid the loss?
so, whether we should only buy dips and only sell after a run?

I don't think there's much we can really do about it if the whales are really manipulating it. Probably just hodl and hope for the best. Not much else comes to mind.

Or wait for the market to become regulated , which people also don't want. So we will have to live with a market manipulated by whales for the time being.

[baconlike]

The current Crypto market is heavily dependent on whales, which manipulate the market and can create prices at their disposal. I think we are a small individual, invest in Crypto know how to grasp the market, have extensive knowledge can be successful. Today, the market fluctuates frequently. Let's hold the altcoin for a very long time.

[Xioma]

On the other hand, no one was calling it manipulation when it went from $2,500 to $20,000 in less than 6 months, so...