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Author Topic: 2013-10-31 Forbes: DarkWallet Aims To Be The Anarchist's Bitcoin App Of Choice  (Read 1041 times)
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October 31, 2013, 02:33:44 PM
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/10/31/darkwallet-aims-to-be-the-anarchists-bitcoin-app-of-choice/

In case anyone wants to contribute to the effort, DarkWallet crowdfunding campaign is here: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/bitcoin-dark-wallet. Yes, you can donate bitcoins as well.

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October 31, 2013, 04:50:04 PM
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I'm awfully excited, and the video was done very well.  Really looking forward to this extension.

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November 01, 2013, 12:01:19 AM
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why is there no [ANN] thread? where are we supposed to be talking about darkWallet? also how badly is this going to crap up the blockchain? If everyone is mixing in the same pool than it shouldn't be so bad right?

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
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November 01, 2013, 09:20:14 PM
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Just can't wait for this wallet...

 Grin and yes I donated

Just love the pyramid on it's head, it's so provocative
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November 01, 2013, 10:24:32 PM
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I am curious. Is this an implementation of Zerocoin on top of the Bitcoin network? I am well aware that this can be made to work without a fork. For reference http://spar.isi.jhu.edu/~mgreen/ZerocoinOakland.pdf

Concerned that blockchain bloat will lead to centralization? Storing less than 4 GB of data once required the budget of a superpower and a warehouse full of punched cards. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/IBM_card_storage.NARA.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card
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November 01, 2013, 11:36:54 PM
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I am curious. Is this an implementation of Zerocoin on top of the Bitcoin network?

I got impression that they intend to integrate mixing/coinjoin type services into the wallet, but not Zerocoin. My understanding is, integration of Zerocoin requires 2 things: (1) authoritative off-chain storage of Zerocoin solutions, and (2) ability of bitcoin transaction to reference Zerocoin solutions.

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November 08, 2013, 03:51:25 PM
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I think the creators display somewhat unnecessary hostility toward mainstream entities like the Bitcoin Foundation that, yes, are operating aboveground.  That certainly doesn't mean that those of us, including me, who feel there are benefits to mainstream adoption are hostile to projects like DarkWallet.  The misconception that Bitcoin is somehow inherently anonymous is a dangerous one to those who operate under it, and projects to enhance security and anonymity for whatever purposes are a good thing.

The fact that a technology can (or even certainly will) be used for illegal purposes is no reason not to develop it if it has legitimate uses.  Remember also that "legitimate" varies by your address, and the government you live under, and for instance, Ed Snowden is a "terrorist" in the United States and people who believe in democracy are criminals in China, Iran and you name it.

I hope that any such project is carried out with the understanding that it will be subject to vigorous attack and vulnerability research and that even perfect ideology won't compensate for shitty technology.
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