Bitcoin Forum
November 07, 2024, 10:05:20 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 28.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: [1] 2 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: Non-chemical dependencies - Gambling  (Read 301 times)
sirenmoon (OP)
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 121
Merit: 13


View Profile
March 30, 2018, 02:11:32 PM
Merited by boy130 (2), eternalgloom (1)
 #1

Dependence is a behavioral disorder that manifests itself through the inadequate satisfaction of human needs and can be created by any action that creates the desired effect, is constantly repeated and becomes a goal for itself. When performing the activity which is causing the addiction, serotonin and adrenaline secretion in the brain are increasing, which further leads to a change in mood and emotional state. If a particular activity is performed often, that leads to the increased tolerance, apropos the need of the organism to increase the intensity and duration of the activity, in order to achieve the desired effect.


Non-chemical addiction does not involve the input of a substance into the body and can occur in a variety of forms, such as
gambling addiction, internet addiction, food addiction, shopping, sex, work, video games, etc.



All dependencies have the following characteristics:
(I am mainly pointing toward the gambling addiction in this thread)

Execution of a specific activity that led to the dependence which has been created over a long period of time or longer than planned.

The existence of a constant desire and the need for a certain action to be performed.

One or more attempts to make certain behavior from which the addiction is created to be stopped, reduced or controlled.

Conducting more and more time in carrying out certain activities, planning or recovering from the consequences of the same.

Preoccupation with the action from which the addiction was created and the preparations for its execution.

Ignoring of the other obligations such as work, school, or family.


Isolation from family and friends, in order for the activity to be done without their knowledge about it.

Continuous performance of certain activities, despite the awareness of their negative consequences.

Increasing the frequency and intensity of engagement with a particular activity, in order to achieve the same effect.

The occurrence of abstinence syndrome (a set of unpleasant physical and psychological symptoms such as restlessness, irritation, insomnia, headache, loss of appetite) after cessation of activity from which addiction has been created.



My question is -
Which characteristics are characterizing you?


▶▶  [ WHITEPAPER ]  ◀◀              i v y              ▶▶  [ JOIN US NOW! ]  ◀◀
Ivy Disrupts The US$5 Trillion Per Day Money Transfer Market
TELEGRAM   ●   FACEBOOK   ●    TWITTER    ●   YOUTUBE   ●   LINKEDIN
marlboroza
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1932
Merit: 2272


View Profile
March 30, 2018, 07:26:03 PM
 #2

Increasing the frequency and intensity of engagement with a particular activity

Which characteristics are characterizing you?
This one.
So, I decreased my gambling activity to minimum and increased my sex activity.
And my addy looks much better.

gambling addiction, internet addiction, food addiction, shopping, sex, work, video games, etc.

Also, I would like to ask you how someone can be addicted to work?
People are usually trying to find any kind of get rich over night method to stop working, I have never heard that someone developed working addiction.
Patatas
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1750
Merit: 1115

Providing AI/ChatGpt Services - PM!


View Profile
March 30, 2018, 07:36:15 PM
 #3

What do you wish to conclude by taking other discrepancies into consideration ? Whatever you mentioned is absolutely correct but in the wider sense,it is just not scientific but also psychological. The segregation of those chemicals not necessarily has to be similar for all the samples.For some it could an addiction or for others just adrenaline rush.
ralle14
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3360
Merit: 1919


Shuffle.com


View Profile
March 31, 2018, 01:41:06 AM
 #4

gambling addiction, internet addiction, food addiction, shopping, sex, work, video games, etc.

Also, I would like to ask you how someone can be addicted to work?
People are usually trying to find any kind of get rich over night method to stop working, I have never heard that someone developed working addiction.
There are things that you can recognize when someones addicted to working same with other addictions like putting more time in to that certain addiction it's not healthy anymore and that could start affecting the person's lifestyle (mentioned in the OP).

Continuous performance of certain activities, despite the awareness of their negative consequences.
From the list, this is what characterizes me I know the risks about gambling yet I still do it. I'm not risking all of my money though just some spare funds that i'm capable of losing.

██████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
█████████████████████████
██████████████████████
.SHUFFLE.COM..███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
█████████████████████
████████████████████
██████████████████████
████████████████████
██████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
██████████████████████
██████████████████████
██████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
███████████████████████
.
...Next Generation Crypto Casino...
Don Pedro Dinero
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1484
Merit: 1745



View Profile
March 31, 2018, 05:38:23 AM
 #5

None of those you describe. I am quite a rational gambler.

I like this way of dealing with gambling than calling it a “disease”, as in this post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1610426.0

I don’t agree with calling gambling or drug addictions and other such addiction diseases because it seems you had nothing to do with the disease and it came to you. I think it is the opposite way, a behavioral disorder, where your behavior makes your brain to secrete dopamine, serotonin, etc. which make you feel better from your previous psychological problems. That’s why you keep repeating the patter even though you know it is harming you.

███████████████████████████
███████▄████████████▄██████
████████▄████████▄████████
███▀█████▀▄███▄▀█████▀███
█████▀█▀▄██▀▀▀██▄▀█▀█████
███████▄███████████▄███████
███████████████████████████
███████▀███████████▀███████
████▄██▄▀██▄▄▄██▀▄██▄████
████▄████▄▀███▀▄████▄████
██▄███▀▀█▀██████▀█▀███▄███
██▀█▀████████████████▀█▀███
███████████████████████████
 
 Duelbits 
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██

██

██

██

██

██
TRY OUR UNIQUE GAMES!
    ◥ DICE  ◥ MINES  ◥ PLINKO  ◥ DUEL POKER  ◥ DICE DUELS   
█▀▀











█▄▄
 
███
▀▀▀
███
▀▀▀
███
▀▀▀
███
▀▀▀

███
▀▀▀
███
▀▀▀
 
███
▀▀▀

███
▀▀▀
███
▀▀▀
███
▀▀▀
███
▀▀▀
███
▀▀▀
 
███
▀▀▀
███
▀▀▀
███
▀▀▀
███
▀▀▀

███
▀▀▀
███
▀▀▀
 
███
▀▀▀
███
▀▀▀
███
▀▀▀

███
▀▀▀
███
▀▀▀
███
▀▀▀
 
███
▀▀▀
███
▀▀▀

███
▀▀▀
███
▀▀▀
███
▀▀▀

███
▀▀▀
▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
 KENONEW 
 
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
▀▀█











▄▄█
10,000x
 
MULTIPLIER
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██

██

██

██

██

██
 
NEARLY
UP TO
50%
REWARDS
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██

██

██

██

██

██
[/tabl
ethereumhunter
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 3066
Merit: 542


Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform


View Profile
March 31, 2018, 05:42:56 AM
 #6

gambling addiction, internet addiction, food addiction, shopping, sex, work, video games, etc.

Also, I would like to ask you how someone can be addicted to work?
People are usually trying to find any kind of get rich over night method to stop working, I have never heard that someone developed working addiction.
There are things that you can recognize when someones addicted to working same with other addictions like putting more time in to that certain addiction it's not healthy anymore and that could start affecting the person's lifestyle (mentioned in the OP).

Continuous performance of certain activities, despite the awareness of their negative consequences.
From the list, this is what characterizes me I know the risks about gambling yet I still do it. I'm not risking all of my money though just some spare funds that i'm capable of losing.

from all of this, I doing the same like you and I only spend small money to play gambling. maybe people can found one way to get rich overnight but it depends on what he's doing and how he does that thing. and if somehow that person becomes addicting in his work, maybe he needs to take a rest for a while and think about his health because this is the most important things that we should have.

I think many other like us which is not spend a big money in gambling but we only want to enjoy the games with our friends so we still playing gambling until now and we don't want to stop it right now. but soon, after something else happens to us, we will decide to stop from gambling and leave gambling forever.

..Stake.com..   ▄████████████████████████████████████▄
   ██ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄            ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██  ▄████▄
   ██ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██████████ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ██  ██████
   ██ ██████████ ██      ██ ██████████ ██   ▀██▀
   ██ ██      ██ ██████  ██ ██      ██ ██    ██
   ██ ██████  ██ █████  ███ ██████  ██ ████▄ ██
   ██ █████  ███ ████  ████ █████  ███ ████████
   ██ ████  ████ ██████████ ████  ████ ████▀
   ██ ██████████ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ██████████ ██
   ██            ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀            ██ 
   ▀█████████▀ ▄████████████▄ ▀█████████▀
  ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███  ██  ██  ███▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
 ██████████████████████████████████████████
▄▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▄
█  ▄▀▄             █▀▀█▀▄▄
█  █▀█             █  ▐  ▐▌
█       ▄██▄       █  ▌  █
█     ▄██████▄     █  ▌ ▐▌
█    ██████████    █ ▐  █
█   ▐██████████▌   █ ▐ ▐▌
█    ▀▀██████▀▀    █ ▌ █
█     ▄▄▄██▄▄▄     █ ▌▐▌
█                  █▐ █
█                  █▐▐▌
█                  █▐█
▀▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀█
▄▄█████████▄▄
▄██▀▀▀▀█████▀▀▀▀██▄
▄█▀       ▐█▌       ▀█▄
██         ▐█▌         ██
████▄     ▄█████▄     ▄████
████████▄███████████▄████████
███▀    █████████████    ▀███
██       ███████████       ██
▀█▄       █████████       ▄█▀
▀█▄    ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄  ▄▄▄█▀
▀███████         ███████▀
▀█████▄       ▄█████▀
▀▀▀███▄▄▄███▀▀▀
..PLAY NOW..
BillCoin
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 476
Merit: 259



View Profile
March 31, 2018, 10:34:11 AM
 #7

What do you wish to conclude by taking other discrepancies into consideration ? Whatever you mentioned is absolutely correct but in the wider sense,it is just not scientific but also psychological. The segregation of those chemicals not necessarily has to be similar for all the samples.For some it could an addiction or for others just adrenaline rush.

Psychological could be count as scientific, because when a research shows the same results over and over again, even if it's based to psychological reasons, it is still could be considered as a scientific because it's something that has been proven to be right and is not based on opinions.

That's one of the reasons I stopped with gambling, I felt like I am not enough psychological strong to handle with the preasure that gambling brought to my life.
jvdp
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1148
Merit: 523


CryptoTalk.Org - Get Paid for every Post!


View Profile
March 31, 2018, 01:22:12 PM
 #8

What do you wish to conclude by taking other discrepancies into consideration ? Whatever you mentioned is absolutely correct but in the wider sense,it is just not scientific but also psychological. The segregation of those chemicals not necessarily has to be similar for all the samples.For some it could an addiction or for others just adrenaline rush.

Psychological could be count as scientific, because when a research shows the same results over and over again, even if it's based to psychological reasons, it is still could be considered as a scientific because it's something that has been proven to be right and is not based on opinions.

That's one of the reasons I stopped with gambling, I felt like I am not enough psychological strong to handle with the preasure that gambling brought to my life.

There is report from US university states that gamers are able to think more than a normal person who is doing the same. Everything done gamers would exponential better. I am not sure whether the gamblers are getting health and mental issue because of gambling.

When the gamers and gamblers are ruling the mining field and other options in gambling field. I am not sure how it is possible for the gambling investors would get these issues as mentioned. Sex problem mentioned is too much I believe.

 
                                . ██████████.
                              .████████████████.
                           .██████████████████████.
                        -█████████████████████████████
                     .██████████████████████████████████.
                  -█████████████████████████████████████████
               -███████████████████████████████████████████████
           .-█████████████████████████████████████████████████████.
        .████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
       .██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████.
       .██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████.
       ..████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████..
       .   .██████████████████████████████████████████████████████.
       .      .████████████████████████████████████████████████.

       .       .██████████████████████████████████████████████
       .    ██████████████████████████████████████████████████████
       .█████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████.
        .███████████████████████████████████████████████████████████
           .█████████████████████████████████████████████████████
              .████████████████████████████████████████████████
                   ████████████████████████████████████████
                      ██████████████████████████████████
                          ██████████████████████████
                             ████████████████████
                               ████████████████
                                   █████████
.CryptoTalk.org.|.MAKE POSTS AND EARN BTC!.🏆
buwaytress
Legendary
*
Online Online

Activity: 2982
Merit: 3691


Join the world-leading crypto sportsbook NOW!


View Profile
March 31, 2018, 01:32:34 PM
 #9

What do you wish to conclude by taking other discrepancies into consideration ? Whatever you mentioned is absolutely correct but in the wider sense,it is just not scientific but also psychological. The segregation of those chemicals not necessarily has to be similar for all the samples.For some it could an addiction or for others just adrenaline rush.

Psychological could be count as scientific, because when a research shows the same results over and over again, even if it's based to psychological reasons, it is still could be considered as a scientific because it's something that has been proven to be right and is not based on opinions.

That's one of the reasons I stopped with gambling, I felt like I am not enough psychological strong to handle with the preasure that gambling brought to my life.

Indeed, the science of psychology bears a lot of evidence which we use today in the treatment of gambling addiction. It's most difficult to study this in yourself, of course, with an inescapable bias against admitting your own vulnerabilities. I used to tell myself my addictions were easily controllable and I'd try prove it by imposing strict cold-turkey periods on myself. But that rush I get when I finally return to my habits - gambling included - makes me wonder if I'm not more of an addict than I'd like to admit.

A few characteristics describe me, but probably this the most:
The occurrence of abstinence syndrome (a set of unpleasant physical and psychological symptoms such as restlessness, irritation, insomnia, headache, loss of appetite) after cessation of activity from which addiction has been created.

I find myself in bed or even in thought sometimes, playing scenarios through my head... fantasy jackpot wins. Random crypto buys suddenly spiking a thousand times in price.

██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
... LIVECASINO.io    Play Live Games with up to 20% cashback!...██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
██
vintages
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 994
Merit: 153



View Profile
March 31, 2018, 03:28:47 PM
 #10

I am really not a saint but I tend not to fall into any of the characteristics stated there. Yes, I have been addicated to gambling before (I believe every new gamblers started out like that) not that I had any psychological disorder because of it but then I felt if I haven't played, I won't be complete. But now, all that is gone and its because I learned to manage my gambling activities with my normal life.
Oilacris
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 3192
Merit: 621



View Profile
March 31, 2018, 04:07:24 PM
 #11

gambling addiction, internet addiction, food addiction, shopping, sex, work, video games, etc.

Also, I would like to ask you how someone can be addicted to work?
People are usually trying to find any kind of get rich over night method to stop working, I have never heard that someone developed working addiction.
There are things that you can recognize when someones addicted to working same with other addictions like putting more time in to that certain addiction it's not healthy anymore and that could start affecting the person's lifestyle (mentioned in the OP).

Continuous performance of certain activities, despite the awareness of their negative consequences.
From the list, this is what characterizes me I know the risks about gambling yet I still do it. I'm not risking all of my money though just some spare funds that i'm capable of losing.
Of all the things being putted to much time on it then it would really be considered as an addiction and I do already read or heard up about being too workaholic.For a human being we do really need to work for us to sustain our life and to survive which would really need to earn money.We should really have a balance allocated time on all sort of things.

Even me is already aware on the risk involve on gambling but I cant really resist on playing but even though I can able to handle myself when I do see I have played too much.

Lionidas
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1008
Merit: 1012


View Profile
March 31, 2018, 04:39:30 PM
 #12

What do you wish to conclude by taking other discrepancies into consideration ? Whatever you mentioned is absolutely correct but in the wider sense,it is just not scientific but also psychological. The segregation of those chemicals not necessarily has to be similar for all the samples.For some it could an addiction or for others just adrenaline rush.

Psychological could be count as scientific, because when a research shows the same results over and over again, even if it's based to psychological reasons, it is still could be considered as a scientific because it's something that has been proven to be right and is not based on opinions.

That's one of the reasons I stopped with gambling, I felt like I am not enough psychological strong to handle with the preasure that gambling brought to my life.

There is report from US university states that gamers are able to think more than a normal person who is doing the same. Everything done gamers would exponential better. I am not sure whether the gamblers are getting health and mental issue because of gambling.

When the gamers and gamblers are ruling the mining field and other options in gambling field. I am not sure how it is possible for the gambling investors would get these issues as mentioned. Sex problem mentioned is too much I believe.
I have seen a study of how addiction affects the brain functions of a person addicted to video games. They have synapses firing in different parts of the brain than a normal person would. It was fascinating to watch.
I just wonder how the brain of a gambler would fair up against a person who is battling against video game addiction.
It would all depend on what it does to the reward centers of the brain from what I could figure out.
Wendigo
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2604
Merit: 1036



View Profile
March 31, 2018, 06:03:46 PM
 #13

Nothing from the above because I do recreational gambling. Why do you think everyone who gambles is some kind of a dead-beat gambling addict lol? Some people have addictive personalities and can't control themselves.
chris200x9
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1316
Merit: 1011


View Profile
April 01, 2018, 08:58:56 AM
 #14


Also, I would like to ask you how someone can be addicted to work?
People are usually trying to find any kind of get rich over night method to stop working, I have never heard that someone developed working addiction.

Yes, there are plenty of people in the world want to work more for example if you do some research then you will come to know that in Japan people are workaholic.

Some of the big companies are asking people to maintain a work-life balance and asking employees to go home early.

Only people who don't want to work look for easy ways to earn money even though they know that gambling is only for entertainment and not for earning money.
hacekd
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 294
Merit: 12


View Profile
April 01, 2018, 09:24:50 AM
 #15

What do you wish to conclude by taking other discrepancies into consideration ? Whatever you mentioned is absolutely correct but in the wider sense,it is just not scientific but also psychological. The segregation of those chemicals not necessarily has to be similar for all the samples.For some it could an addiction or for others just adrenaline rush.

Psychological could be count as scientific, because when a research shows the same results over and over again, even if it's based to psychological reasons, it is still could be considered as a scientific because it's something that has been proven to be right and is not based on opinions.

That's one of the reasons I stopped with gambling, I felt like I am not enough psychological strong to handle with the preasure that gambling brought to my life.
Gambling addicts will do all sorts of ways to fulfill their desire to gamble. Many gambling addicts then take action that never before thought, such as stealing, owing, or selling valuables.

TRADE, EARN & OWN THE EXCHANGE           M o o n X           [    ●    JOIN ICO   -   S O O N    ●    ]
──────────     WHITEPAPER     FACEBOOK     TWITTER     LINKEDIN     TELEGRAM     CRUNCHBASE     ──────────
►   No Trading or ICO Listing Fees      ►   Superior to Nasdaq & LSE       ►   US$ 29M Raised in 2 Weeks!
wxa7115
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 2814
Merit: 734

Bitcoin is GOD


View Profile
April 01, 2018, 11:44:46 PM
 #16

Increasing the frequency and intensity of engagement with a particular activity

Which characteristics are characterizing you?
This one.
So, I decreased my gambling activity to minimum and increased my sex activity.
And my addy looks much better.

gambling addiction, internet addiction, food addiction, shopping, sex, work, video games, etc.

Also, I would like to ask you how someone can be addicted to work?
People are usually trying to find any kind of get rich over night method to stop working, I have never heard that someone developed working addiction.
People can get addicted to anything, as long as they get that rush in their brain when they are doing that activity they can get addicted to it, there are people that get addicted to exercise, there are those that are addicted to do dangerous stuff, we call them adrenaline junkies, so if someone gets that kind of rush with their job then they can get addicted to it, as unlikely as that may seem.
Caladonian
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1302
Merit: 540


View Profile
April 02, 2018, 08:58:41 AM
 #17

Increasing the frequency and intensity of engagement with a particular activity

Which characteristics are characterizing you?
This one.
So, I decreased my gambling activity to minimum and increased my sex activity.
And my addy looks much better.

gambling addiction, internet addiction, food addiction, shopping, sex, work, video games, etc.

Also, I would like to ask you how someone can be addicted to work?
People are usually trying to find any kind of get rich over night method to stop working, I have never heard that someone developed working addiction.
People can get addicted to anything, as long as they get that rush in their brain when they are doing that activity they can get addicted to it, there are people that get addicted to exercise, there are those that are addicted to do dangerous stuff, we call them adrenaline junkies, so if someone gets that kind of rush with their job then they can get addicted to it, as unlikely as that may seem.
That disorder inside our brain where we keep wanting to do things repeatedly and it seems that we can't get it out of our system, it's addiction in any how and in any way. Our brain engaged too much with something that we wanted to keep doing it from time to time. The balance isn't correct anymore, and we are just doing it because our system is looking for it. We are not aware of the consequences anymore that even though it may seem to be getting out of hand, still our body and mind are craving for it. It may be good at the beginning, but as we all know too much of anything is bad, and it is called addiction or dependency that we can no longer remove it from our system.
just_Alice
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1274
Merit: 622



View Profile
April 04, 2018, 11:44:41 AM
 #18

I disagree that gambling addiction can be called non-chemical. If you're a true addict, not just think of an action, but being obsessed with it the problem lies deeper, than just in thinking. As you mentioned above, serotonin and adrenaline secretion occurs, and one can become addictive to a certain kind of action due to this secretion. So the effect is the same, the only difference is that you obtain chemicals not from outside, but from inside and tolerance doesn't occur, but the drug withdrawal syndrome takes place.
eternalgloom
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1792
Merit: 1283



View Profile WWW
April 27, 2018, 01:25:05 PM
 #19

I don't think that any of those characteristics apply to me, so I can probably safely say that I'm not addicted? Tongue
And it actually kind of is a chemical dependency, since some of the same chemicals are released in the brain that are also released by drugs.

From a brain-chemistry point of view, addiction has pretty much the same characteristics wether it's drug addiction, sex addiction, gambling addiction, etc.

Aikidoka
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1078
Merit: 342


Sinbad Mixer: Mix Your BTC Quickly


View Profile
May 22, 2018, 01:00:59 PM
 #20

Work addiction? I have another term which is a workaholic person. A person who works hard every day and night. I do not deem it to be addiction. You work because you want to make money through hard work. Easy work will not bring you fortune (That is what hard workers say).

Perhaps some people do work hard because they like it as a hobby like football players in which football has become a job nowadays. Either way, it is up to them to decide whether to organize their time or not.
Pages: [1] 2 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!