Don't beg to have merit

[Hans17]

I see some of us also some of my friends though wanted a merit , i know too some of us giving a hard time just to earn merit , by the new system which is you need to earn merit just to rank up is quite hard , but it has a advantage and disadvantage why the moderators apply this what so called merit.

One of the advantages or the good effect is , we know that some of the newbies(no offend) or some users (not all) around the forum is just copying some one answers or the what so called the spammers around the forums , then asking why they got some deleted posts. So basically the advantage or the good effect of the merit system is to build a better community , to reduce some spammers around the forum , to have a sense , to help each one of us , not copying someone's answer.  By the new system I've seen a lot of improvements.

And also if there is advantages there is disadvantages and the disadvantage of merit , some are just begging for me actually it's quite hard you know what i mean? , the felling when someone begging you , but then again one of the disadvantage of the new system is lots of members are now complaining why the merit apply? something like that , so what i'm trying to say is some of us are suffering to have some merit and they tend just to beg though , they see the merit system is a problem , a problem that giving them a hard time to rank up.

(P.S: This is just my thoughts or opinion)

But then again for me , some of users around here they just focus on the hardships like , instead of I will posts this to have a merit , no they tend to focus on " nah it's not long enough , this would probably not worth of merit" something like that. Instead of being optimistic they just beg , begging is not the solution to have a merit , you will need to earn it , you will need to put a maximum effort so that you can help someone,  moderators wanted the thread or the forum to be a guide, to be a helpful forum. They implemented merit to "think" , to make sure the posts is constructive or a quality posts that someone will able to guide or learn. And that's the main reason of merit to appreciate what you've done , merit wants to show us to help to be a guide , to learn, and not to beg.

For the newbies or the users around the forum who is giving a hard time by the new ranking system , I know it's hard to earn merit , but don't give up though don't feel down, and especially don't beg okay?. Just read some posts and help somebody or guide somebody , and I know it's hard but can we forget the word hard for just a moment that's all , be motivated , and optimistic at all time , be patient , and try or practice to construct a post that would positively help somebody , share your thoughts and facts. ( and PS: It's my opinion , because one thing i learn is don't beg on something that you've wanted , learn to be patient and strive even there is hard ships , remember that you don't get what you deserve , you get what you earn, and last but not the least , Merit is for those who deserve it , not for those who demand it) Again i'm not here to discouraged you or to feel down, I'm here to motivate you.
 

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[Dingdongjl]

tl;dr : For sure post like this expecting to get some by getting communities sympathy.
To those who will read I cant wait the reaction to see what this post really means.  

[marlboroza]

tl;dr : For sure post like this expecting to get some by getting communities sympathy.
To those who will read I cant wait the reaction to see what this post really means. 

OP explained one of the forum rules.

I am not sure why. 

[Dingdongjl]

tl;dr : For sure post like this expecting to get some by getting communities sympathy.
To those who will read I cant wait the reaction to see what this post really means. 

OP explained one of the forum rules.

I am not sure why. 

I have seen threads like this many times before, and guess what? their goal is just to get merits too..

Theres no difference on posting this kind of thread and begging merits.   

[Vod]

OP explained one of the forum rules.

I am not sure why. 

Simply posting her opinion and she thinks everyone needs to know it?

Nah, she wants merits.

[tranthidung]

tl;dr : For sure post like this expecting to get some by getting communities sympathy.
To those who will read I cant wait the reaction to see what this post really means. 

OP explained one of the forum rules.

I am not sure why. 

Adaptive efforts from one of merit beggars in the forum. It is one of evidence that spammers have adapted to new rules of the forum after merit system launched. New types of spamming method, which intentionally to write longer and longer threads.

[Talk merit]

It's official - Bitcoin Talk is now a meritocracy.

[Tyrantt]

And also if there is advantages there is disadvantages and the disadvantage of merit , some are just begging for me actually it's quite hard you know what i mean?

No, I have no clue what you mean.

But then again for me , some of users around here they just focus on the hardships like , instead of I will posts this to have a merit , no they tend to focus on " nah it's not long enough , this would probably not worth of merit

Oh the irony, your post is a huge block of text lol. Having quite a hard time reading through it.

 Again i'm not here to discouraged you or to feel down, I'm here to motivate you.

Yeah, good intention but you left me just confused and not willing to read all of this again. Tho, you might want to implement a few thinga you've said in your post. There was quite.. a number of mistakes, just read the first quote from you in this post and you'll see what I'm talking about.

[Hans17]

Well my topic is about dont beg and ive seen some reply that saying its just another thread of begging some merit.

But then again all i want to say is not to beg , and you just missing the whole point , i expect this would happen , surely lot of people will criticize instead of understanding.

Its not how long the post you make  , i just wanted to influence mostly the new comers , i expect that some of you will support but... anyway i appreciate the comments thank you. i just thought you will get the point , im sorry but i just wanted to clarify that i wanted to influence the users that begging to have merit , i just wanted to encourage them that begging is not the solution to have a merit.

[marlboroza]

and you just missing the whole point

Take my apologies for missing whole point of "don't beg for merit" topic.

Sorry for going off topic, but can you do something about spammers? Can you write something useful for newbies who are spamming something like this:

I think is much better to invest in bitcoin , bitcoin is evolving and growing and , It has Good amount and it's growing though it's increasing , that is why you should invest or we should invest on bitcoin

  I mean  

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I think is much better to invest in bitcoin , bitcoin is evolving and growing and , It has Good amount and it's growing though it's increasing , that is why you should invest or we should invest on bitcoin

  I mean  

No kidding.  And I could find an equivalent (or worse) post in about 20 seconds on Bitcoin Discussion.  Campaigns need to stop paying their participants for this spam, that's the bottom line.  I really do think campaign managers ought to eventually take earned merit into account when deciding whether to accept an applicant--assuming that merit trading doesn't become even more rampant.  But users who post garbage like the above are the ones who are never going to earn any merits, and they'd never get accepted.  At least it would do some good to consider merits and do no harm.  

As to OP, I think this is just another attempt to get merits, since it really is a long winded paraphrasing of what is already the rule here.  You might as well be writing a treatise about why people shouldn't ask for loans without collateral or why you shouldn't scam.  It's just not necessary.  These attempts are becoming too numerous on Meta, and they're very transparent, always written by someone who's lower-ranked and usually without much merit.  Thankfully they aren't receiving merits for writing them, which gives me just a little hope that everyone here isn't completely deluded.

If people would put as much effort into their posts as OP did here, but on topics not about merit, they might get somewhere.  They would still have to work on their English skills, just like OP would (there are a lot of errors, and it's not a pleasure to read what he wrote), but they'd have come a long way from Marlboroza's quoted post here, which you can still find thousands of in a handful of sections here.

[marlboroza]

But users who post garbage like the above are the ones who are never going to earn any merits

Randomly picked post.
Guess who posted it 

[Zapto25]

tl;dr : For sure post like this expecting to get some by getting communities sympathy.
To those who will read I cant wait the reaction to see what this post really means. 

OP explained one of the forum rules.

I am not sure why. 

Adaptive efforts from one of merit beggars in the forum. It is one of evidence that spammers have adapted to new rules of the forum after merit system launched. New types of spamming method, which intentionally to write longer and longer threads.

yes .. I think too ,, by writing long strands sometimes make people lazy to read it, especially with strands that are not interesting and always the same, with discussions about the cases that have passed.
people prefer short writing but that is more meaningful than long but useless. and I prefer that what we write is good and helpful. and do not beg people to get merit because it is not good

[Taki]

Another merit begging thread.

No doubt. This post was just blah blah post, I even didn't understand what the OP was trying to say with all of that. he was just repeating himself over and over again to make the thread longer and to try to attract attention of couple of sympathizers who would give him couple of sMerits.

[examplens]

I started it merit giveaway topic for quality posters. I just want to spend some sMerit and help people who are a good poster and need merit to improve rank.
I was very surprised what posts they sent me with the proposal for merit rating. 75% of them are collecting post count for signature rewards. Many think it's enough to write two or three sentences, and it must be a quality post, especially in many xyz/discussion threads.
It is possible to beg few merits, but no way to improve rank without good posts.

[Cobalt9317]

but it has a advantage and disadvantage why the moderators apply this what so called merit.

The moment my eyes read this sentence I knew this is the worst thread I'm going to see before I call it a day.

Sorry O.P but the longer I read in your thread the longer I'm convincing myself that your post is like an inspirational specific page of a certain book regarding how to get hired in a job with phrase like don't give up, be optimistic, be motivated, forget hard, etc etc.
Master your English grammar/language first before you click post in this section you'll be swarmed by a lot of criticism over here, but that post is clearly good enough in alt section.

[Talk merit]

I'm starting to think that we need a picture posting board for spammers with language challenges.

[seven2smoke1]

but it has a advantage and disadvantage why the moderators apply this what so called merit.

The moment my eyes read this sentence I knew this is the worst thread I'm going to see before I call it a day.

Sorry O.P but the longer I read in your thread the longer I'm convincing myself that your post is like an inspirational specific page of a certain book regarding how to get hired in a job with phrase like don't give up, be optimistic, be motivated, forget hard, etc etc.
Master your English grammar/language first before you click post in this section you'll be swarmed by a lot of criticism over here, but that post is clearly good enough in alt section.

Same here, when I saw few sentences with multi errors I stoped reading, the OP should improve his English before he post such a long paragraph with a lot of grammar mistakes. At least he should post something with a few lines to decrease the number of mistakes and when he learns more English than he can write long posts.

[marlboroza]

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Same here, when I saw few sentences with multi errors I stoped reading, the OP should improve his English before he post such a long paragraph with a lot of grammar mistakes. At least he should post something with a few lines to decrease the number of mistakes and when he learns more English than he can write long posts.

That is bullshit and you are licking someone's ass here.

when he learns more English than he can write long posts.

Language is method of communication.

than

Please.
You remind me of my stupid bro, he speaks English the same as I do, but still, he has to correct everyone.  

[Sergio444]

Raising new post on merit wouldn't earn you nor any newbie some merit. This didn't principle was not instituted because they want to centralize power or enjoy the best of the forum. We all cant move up without merits because of the behaviour of some predecessors on the forum who wanted to climb up by posting anyhow.