Dice on FortuneJack Scummy and NOT Provably Fair

[fantomic]

So heres the issue....

When you play on FortuneJack DICE with the free satoshis it has parameters that you have to bet within, like not going below certain odds (high payouts).

This is understandable, being that it is free satoshis... ALTHOUGH FJ's wording makes it seem like when you deposit you will have full control of your bets. This unfortunately is not the case. I decided to give the site a shot and threw .25 eth into my account after playing the free satoshis and being irritated with the limits since my betting strategy for dice is to bet with 900x+ payouts. Many times I have bet 9900 just trying to hit the 0 and i have won a handful of these on other sites over the last few years.

Anyways on FortuneJack they wont allow you to bet below .10 (990x) on the under, and for the over you cant bet more than 50x (98.00)

this is very deceiving and if I would have known they have limits like this I never would of deposited. Im shocked that with all the dice action out there no one has complained about this scummy behaviour yet. In my opinion this alone make the dice something other than provably fair, i cant even call it as fair as blackjack in a regular casino with limitations.

This gives them a huge advantage and tricks players that have used the free satoshis into thinking once u deposit you can make any bets.

This is what you can expect for customer service when you go ask about it and complain...
"
sorry, but if you have some issues with games, Please, provide the following information for technical group to investigate the issue at support@fortunejack.com :
1. Game name
2. Time played
3. Round ID/Transaction ID
4. Stake amount
5. Provide screenshot if possible
6. Describe the issue you faced

"

they wouldnt even respond, so i guess ill post this here and then if it gets real bad then ill make youtube videos to expose the scam that is FJ

[oHnK]

So heres the issue....

When you play on FortuneJack DICE with the free satoshis it has parameters that you have to bet within, like not going below certain odds (high payouts).

This is understandable, being that it is free satoshis... ALTHOUGH FJ's wording makes it seem like when you deposit you will have full control of your bets. This unfortunately is not the case. I decided to give the site a shot and threw .25 eth into my account after playing the free satoshis and being irritated with the limits since my betting strategy for dice is to bet with 900x+ payouts. Many times I have bet 9900 just trying to hit the 0 and i have won a handful of these on other sites over the last few years.

Anyways on FortuneJack they wont allow you to bet below .10 (990x) on the under, and for the over you cant bet more than 50x (98.00)

this is very deceiving and if I would have known they have limits like this I never would of deposited. Im shocked that with all the dice action out there no one has complained about this scummy behaviour yet. In my opinion this alone make the dice something other than provably fair, i cant even call it as fair as blackjack in a regular casino with limitations.

This gives them a huge advantage and tricks players that have used the free satoshis into thinking once u deposit you can make any bets.

This is what you can expect for customer service when you go ask about it and complain...
"
sorry, but if you have some issues with games, Please, provide the following information for technical group to investigate the issue at support@fortunejack.com :
1. Game name
2. Time played
3. Round ID/Transaction ID
4. Stake amount
5. Provide screenshot if possible
6. Describe the issue you faced

"

they wouldnt even respond, so i guess ill post this here and then if it gets real bad then ill make youtube videos to expose the scam that is FJ

You can try to make youtube video and show the world how dumb you are. The policy for each site is indeed different but that doesnt make them not provably fair. I wont try to defend them because it is useless, when you made the video then alot of people will know that there is nothing wrong with that. If you dont like it , leave it

[ralle14]

You should know that every dice site has their own rules since they own it. Any casino could put any limit they want as long as everything is provably fair and players are getting paid properly. With the limit they have I guess they want to protect their bankroll because it can also be risky to the casino if the max profit per roll is too high for the bankroll.

If you want to continue this you better post your complaints here in this thread below they'll surely read it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774929.0

[EdenHazard]

just because you are unlucky to not win a single bet with your crazy high odds , doesn't mean they are shady.

indeed there a lot of winner at primedice with that kind high odds but you can compare the betting volume for both , fortunejack are a casino with a lot of games there where primedice are a dice site that offering single game called dice. so it is very reasonable when you feel you should win at least once after a lot of shots but you did not make it , feel upset and throw words leads to an accusation , a weak accusation.

[fantomic]

umm funny how only people come to protect this fortunejack site but they have done many shady things in the past, they are theives and liars.

The main problem i have is to induce players into depositing by making the dice look like you willl have full control when your not using the free satoshis to bet.

they need to take that bs off there because its simply a LIE. they have changed the game of dice completely and its a scam.

[BTCeminjas]

umm funny how only people come to protect this fortunejack site but they have done many shady things in the past, they are theives and liars.

The main problem i have is to induce players into depositing by making the dice look like you willl have full control when your not using the free satoshis to bet.

they need to take that bs off there because its simply a LIE. they have changed the game of dice completely and its a scam.

Fortunejack site is one of very well known gambling site here in the forum, they had many accuses of being scam.
Actually, the FurtuneJack account was tagged by sir manager yahoo by delayed paying of almost 3bitcoin won by their player or maybe it turns to scam and it takes almost 3 months of waiting for the fund.
Heres the account who's tagged in Furtunejack gambling site. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=303298

And here's there complainant thread against them. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2961440.0

So, what can you say about this? indeed Fortunejack site is near my luck when I was on their site.

[Aleister Crowley]

You should know that every dice site has their own rules since they own it. Any casino could put any limit they want as long as everything is provably fair and players are getting paid properly. With the limit they have I guess they want to protect their bankroll because it can also be risky to the casino if the max profit per roll is too high for the bankroll.

If you want to continue this you better post your complaints here in this thread below they'll surely read it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774929.0

agree, you can submit a complaint there and may get a quick response ,, or maybe if you like the game dice, you can try bustadice ,, because since his arrival in the gambling world ,, there has not been seen doing any hard related complen ,,, bustadice has a pretty good reputation for you to try ,, click my signature

[marlboroza]

Anyways on FortuneJack they wont allow you to bet below .10 (990x) on the under, and for the over you cant bet more than 50x (98.00)

What did support say?

In my opinion this alone make the dice something other than provably fair

Research provably fairness.

This gives them a huge advantage and tricks players that have used the free satoshis into thinking once u deposit you can make any bets.

I just tested dice from faucet, there is no difference between faucet bets and bets made from deposit.
First you said this:

this is very deceiving and if I would have known they have limits like this I never would of deposited.

And then you said this:

umm funny how only people come to protect this fortunejack site but they have done many shady things in the past, they are theives and liars.

It is contradiction.
Why don't you post from your real -ve account?
Besides, which site offers 1BTC+ dice jackpot for 100 satoshi bet?

[Oilacris]

It is contradiction.
Why don't you post from your real -ve account?
Besides, which site offers 1BTC+ dice jackpot for 100 satoshi bet?

He wont do such thing because he would make his account even more useless on receiving another negative trust.   All the things hes trying to tell here is always been contradicting and I suspect he lost all of those deposited amounts on playing dice and now creating an issue? Not a surprising thing for some gamblers who do easily cry when they loss money on playing gambling. Playing on faucet amounts will already give you the idea that those odds wont really be available if you have tried it on those earlier times then you wont really decide to deposit because you cant input your desired odds. If you don't like the rules then you can simply find another one as simple as that.

[Gotottack]

You have to prove that it is not provably fair, that is something way different from what you described. What you are saying is that their terms and conditions are not fair for free money. But your case is different. You are insinuating that their site is not provably fair by arguing that they won't allow you to get better odds and win, like in your other sites you said you won on.

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[JL421]

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This surely isn't a good sign for bitdice who spams every single gamble post suggesting to gamble on their site , i'm happy i sold those shit tokens of yours which is listed on all shit exchanges and in terms of divided there is nothing
Regarding the post this isn't the only accusation against them if sometimes there fake system fails and people make profit they ask for kyc and take months to process withdrawals it's always better to stay away from the scam

[BoXXoB]

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This surely isn't a good sign for bitdice who spams every single gamble post suggesting to gamble on their site , i'm happy i sold those shit tokens of yours which is listed on all shit exchanges and in terms of divided there is nothing
Regarding the post this isn't the only accusation against them if sometimes there fake system fails and people make profit they ask for kyc and take months to process withdrawals it's always better to stay away from the scam

Last dividends were a success... the upcoming ones will be a success. You are allowed to have your opinion but there's nothing wrong in advertising a site when it's relevant. The user wasn't satisfied with the site he played at so I offered an option where he could do what he intended to do.

I'll gladly remove my post if a forum moderator etc. thinks it should be done. My reply wasn't off topic.

EDIT: Thought I'd add that I posted because the poster seemed to have a problem where he couldn't freely choose the odds to play at. This can be done on BD and thus I deemed it relevant to post some information about the site.

[JL421]

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This surely isn't a good sign for bitdice who spams every single gamble post suggesting to gamble on their site , i'm happy i sold those shit tokens of yours which is listed on all shit exchanges and in terms of divided there is nothing
Regarding the post this isn't the only accusation against them if sometimes there fake system fails and people make profit they ask for kyc and take months to process withdrawals it's always better to stay away from the scam

Last dividends were a success... the upcoming ones will be a success. You are allowed to have your opinion but there's nothing wrong in advertising a site when it's relevant. The user wasn't satisfied with the site he played at so I offered an option where he could do what he intended to do.

I'll gladly remove my post if a forum moderator etc. thinks it should be done. My reply wasn't off topic.

EDIT: Thought I'd add that I posted because the poster seemed to have a problem where he couldn't freely choose the odds to play at. This can be done on BD and thus I deemed it relevant to post some information about the site.

I don't have a issue with you posting information about your site as i said i really loved your site in the past but  from the past few months a lot of changes caused me to stay away from your site , the reason i posted this is because you made this similar posts on few other topics as well

[BoXXoB]

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This surely isn't a good sign for bitdice who spams every single gamble post suggesting to gamble on their site , i'm happy i sold those shit tokens of yours which is listed on all shit exchanges and in terms of divided there is nothing
Regarding the post this isn't the only accusation against them if sometimes there fake system fails and people make profit they ask for kyc and take months to process withdrawals it's always better to stay away from the scam

Last dividends were a success... the upcoming ones will be a success. You are allowed to have your opinion but there's nothing wrong in advertising a site when it's relevant. The user wasn't satisfied with the site he played at so I offered an option where he could do what he intended to do.

I'll gladly remove my post if a forum moderator etc. thinks it should be done. My reply wasn't off topic.

EDIT: Thought I'd add that I posted because the poster seemed to have a problem where he couldn't freely choose the odds to play at. This can be done on BD and thus I deemed it relevant to post some information about the site.

I don't have a issue with you posting information about your site as i said i really loved your site in the past but  from the past few months a lot of changes caused me to stay away from your site , the reason i posted this is because you made this similar posts on few other topics as well

I post same information because the information stays the same. I'll update it as I see fit but it's same post because I've collected relevant information to it.

May I ask what are the reasons you've stayed away from the site? The fact that we ran an ICO?

[JL421]

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This surely isn't a good sign for bitdice who spams every single gamble post suggesting to gamble on their site , i'm happy i sold those shit tokens of yours which is listed on all shit exchanges and in terms of divided there is nothing
Regarding the post this isn't the only accusation against them if sometimes there fake system fails and people make profit they ask for kyc and take months to process withdrawals it's always better to stay away from the scam

Last dividends were a success... the upcoming ones will be a success. You are allowed to have your opinion but there's nothing wrong in advertising a site when it's relevant. The user wasn't satisfied with the site he played at so I offered an option where he could do what he intended to do.

I'll gladly remove my post if a forum moderator etc. thinks it should be done. My reply wasn't off topic.

EDIT: Thought I'd add that I posted because the poster seemed to have a problem where he couldn't freely choose the odds to play at. This can be done on BD and thus I deemed it relevant to post some information about the site.

I don't have a issue with you posting information about your site as i said i really loved your site in the past but  from the past few months a lot of changes caused me to stay away from your site , the reason i posted this is because you made this similar posts on few other topics as well

I post same information because the information stays the same. I'll update it as I see fit but it's same post because I've collected relevant information to it.

May I ask what are the reasons you've stayed away from the site? The fact that we ran an ICO?

Yes it is because of the ico you did raise a good amount of funds you could have utilised in the best way but your team was too late the token price kept crippling below the ico price , it was no longer profitable to hold the token because the supply was so high that dividends received was too less and slowly it became another shit ico coin

[stomachgrowls]

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This surely isn't a good sign for bitdice who spams every single gamble post suggesting to gamble on their site , i'm happy i sold those shit tokens of yours which is listed on all shit exchanges and in terms of divided there is nothing
Regarding the post this isn't the only accusation against them if sometimes there fake system fails and people make profit they ask for kyc and take months to process withdrawals it's always better to stay away from the scam

Last dividends were a success... the upcoming ones will be a success. You are allowed to have your opinion but there's nothing wrong in advertising a site when it's relevant. The user wasn't satisfied with the site he played at so I offered an option where he could do what he intended to do.

I'll gladly remove my post if a forum moderator etc. thinks it should be done. My reply wasn't off topic.

EDIT: Thought I'd add that I posted because the poster seemed to have a problem where he couldn't freely choose the odds to play at. This can be done on BD and thus I deemed it relevant to post some information about the site.

I don't have a issue with you posting information about your site as i said i really loved your site in the past but  from the past few months a lot of changes caused me to stay away from your site , the reason i posted this is because you made this similar posts on few other topics as well

I post same information because the information stays the same. I'll update it as I see fit but it's same post because I've collected relevant information to it.

May I ask what are the reasons you've stayed away from the site? The fact that we ran an ICO?

Yes it is because of the ico you did raise a good amount of funds you could have utilised in the best way but your team was too late the token price kept crippling below the ico price , it was no longer profitable to hold the token because the supply was so high that dividends received was too less and slowly it became another shit ico coin

I cant see that this would be a valid reason towards on having an own token for people to stay away from the site. If you did invest into their token then its quiet normal to think off on the risk involved where you can earn some or you would lose some if dump do already happen.I have seen BitDice (CSNO) do have 100M supply with 70M in circulation been wondering if those 30M remaining is locked or what?

@topic, you accused FJ because it didnt met your criteria when it regards to their maximum bet limit.Ridiculous  

[Cobalt9317]

It seems O.P didn't like the set of rules that was enforced at FJ before he gambles.
FJ was accused of anything if somehow they violated some rights of players and I am speaking not on behalf of any association I have on FJ staff, it just didn't matter if someone lost they whined about how it is cruel to have a fucking rules etc etcetera but if they won they might playfully imagine to create a dedicated thread as if they owned the world.

[Bitinity]

Just because there is no option to bet with high multiplier, then you accuse a site as scummy and not provably fair? There is free satoshi to test first before you decided to make deposit, didn't you try with high multiplier with the free satoshi?
If it is how you accuse a site, then there will be another sites that you'll say as scummy as well. One of them is coinroyale, because the max multiplier allowed is 100x.
It is a rule dude, sites reverses the right to have their own rules. If you do not like the rules/terms then dont play on the site. Bear in mind, to check all rules/terms first before you decide to create an account or deposit.

[Juggy777]

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Aren't you trolling Bitdice and going off topic here? There is a user that's disatisfied with FJ, Boxxob has given him a alternate solution which is valid as that fulfils the op goal, to play at a casino where he can bet the way he likes.

Now you're bringing a completely off topic issue of those tokens, I assume you have sold them which is a shame, every investment works good in the long run and Bitdice is one of the best promising casino so you're just displaying personal vendetta which is not correct. There're further dividends coming and if you're holding them hold it, you should know their team is really putting in lots of efforts, I would gladly write here about the new promotions but this is not the topic to discuss it, come see our Ann and be patient all will be good.

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