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April 23, 2018, 11:27:48 AM
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In this world ,everything is unpredictable so for trading case, it's far more unpredictable especially when you're using your own money, the emotion included !
For me, I was amaze when I knew bitcoin 4 years ago, ( $ 299 / btc ) and today it's already $ $ 8000++/btc , I'm sure either everyone.
That's why I always hold most of my bits until now !
It is a good thing for those who have been in the community for a very long time and that is the reason why they have been able to understand the importance and the benefits of holding. I really do not see why anyone should not be holding, except they are professional traders who are trying to trade the fluctuations to hold a better position in the market in the long run. Holding has always been a very good option and there is really no doubt about it.
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April 25, 2018, 07:52:19 AM
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In this world ,everything is unpredictable so for trading case, it's far more unpredictable especially when you're using your own money, the emotion included !
For me, I was amaze when I knew bitcoin 4 years ago, ( $ 299 / btc ) and today it's already $ $ 8000++/btc , I'm sure either everyone.
That's why I always hold most of my bits until now !
It is a good thing for those who have been in the community for a very long time and that is the reason why they have been able to understand the importance and the benefits of holding. I really do not see why anyone should not be holding, except they are professional traders who are trying to trade the fluctuations to hold a better position in the market in the long run. Holding has always been a very good option and there is really no doubt about it.
Digital assets especially bitcoin are basically good for long term investment. A person will be able to make ample amount of money. The longer someone holds his coin, the bigger is his increment in the capital. It is not easy to tradeing digital assets and gaining profit but if someone is able to pull this, that means he has been in this market for long and understands it’s all ups and downs well.
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May 03, 2018, 08:28:49 AM
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Someone holds, someone sells. It's a natural movement of the market, so let it be. It's impossible that everyone gets the benefits - there always will be a situation when someone loses. But someone gains, as well! It's normal!
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May 03, 2018, 09:12:55 AM
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None of us, has a crystal ball and we're not all-in on the tech, we are emotional individuals and we've been financially attacked.   Angry

If the majority of us were looking at the same chart and a general direction of the market, guess who will see that, and take advantage when opportunity awaits. It's the seasoned vets. They've been there, done that. The finance guys shorting the markets for a living. We could argue speculation, math and politics all day long, but, what's been done has been done. None of us have crystal balls. One instrument we access to is past history. We can see that they are real numbers. But they are in the past for everyone else to see.. I want to quote a few of Warren Buffett's quotes that came up in my mind when people were panicking.

"The investors of today does not profit from yesterday's growth." "Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree along time ago."

"What we learn from history is that people don't learn from history." When investors get either too fearful or too greedy, they sometimes hide behind the notion that "This time it's different." Usually they regret it.

"If past history was all there, the richest people would be librarians."

You can teach risk management, but you can't teach balls. It's definitely going to be harder to grow your investments in this space. My personal advice would be to hold. I don't know where you got in or out, but eventually, you will learn from your mistakes and you will have that much more knowledge in the next run. I hope this helps

I know about the potential of holding our assets in the long run. But let’s try to be honest here. What would happen if all of us are just holding and not buying or selling, will there be any movement? Absolutely not. It’s natural that the market would pump if we have more buyers in the market, and it goes down when we experience more selloffs. Everybody has their own reasons to sell, right? We cannot force them not to sell, it is their own decision anyway.

Your post is encouraging though. However, we have to accept the fact selling our assets under any circumstances is just natural. That’s just part of the game.
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May 03, 2018, 09:45:19 AM
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Man I honestly don't get the point here. If all of us HODLs on at the moment and then will eventually sell on bull, somebody else will be trapped for sure - and that is damn too selfish of us. I guess the proper way to handle bitcoin and other cryptos is to buy during dip, and then sell at will. HODLing without the "will" won't create a true market psychology at all, but instead it would contribute in making FOMOs.

And again, everybody should buy at dip - sell at will.
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May 03, 2018, 10:13:20 AM
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You can teach risk management, but you can't teach balls. It's definitely going to be harder to grow your investments in this space. My personal advice would be to hold. I don't know where you got in or out, but eventually, you will learn from your mistakes and you will have that much more knowledge in the next run. I hope this helps

I would advise to hold the coins you invested in. But in troubled times on the market you can sell coins. When the situation becomes more understandable, you can invest again. Risk management is not only profit, but also an opportunity to save your trading account.
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May 03, 2018, 10:34:11 AM
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Very inspiring quotes, I really agree with this one especially "What we learn from history is that people don't learn from history." We all forget (and I can be the first to forget) what happened in the bitcoin and the crypto history, even it's pretty recent.

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May 03, 2018, 10:36:13 AM
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Someone holds, someone sells. It's a natural movement of the market, so let it be. It's impossible that everyone gets the benefits - there always will be a situation when someone loses. But someone gains, as well! It's normal!
Yeah each of us has different way of thinking, we cant dictate others to do the same and follow what others are doing because we dont know their own reasons for not hodling or for selling in the wrong time. If you are a hodler for long term, you will understand the significance of waiting patiently and not eager to make profit because soon your effort will be paid off for ignoring FUD and FOMO and gaining huge profit in your investment.

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May 03, 2018, 10:41:38 AM
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You can teach risk management, but you can't teach balls. It's definitely going to be harder to grow your investments in this space. My personal advice would be to hold. I don't know where you got in or out, but eventually, you will learn from your mistakes and you will have that much more knowledge in the next run. I hope this helps

I would advise to hold the coins you invested in. But in troubled times on the market you can sell coins. When the situation becomes more understandable, you can invest again. Risk management is not only profit, but also an opportunity to save your trading account.

Unless you are day-trading, I wouldn't advise selling at a loss. Just hold and wait it out. The technology is extremely disruptive, and as long as you are investing in coins that have REAL value and not some random shitcoin, it's price is bound to recover.
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May 04, 2018, 10:46:02 PM
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I suggest don't wait for the markets to bottom out because no one knows about it. So just start buying small quantities now and then to get a good average buy price....

Yes mostly people before they invest they wait for bitcoin at bottom price. Everyone of us is having a difficulty to know the exact price could hit ahead of us. Exactly no one knows and we have different point of view on how we can gain profit in this market. We can just hold to wait when price jump.
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May 05, 2018, 02:19:10 AM
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None of us, has a crystal ball and we're not all-in on the tech, we are emotional individuals and we've been financially attacked.   Angry

If the majority of us were looking at the same chart and a general direction of the market, guess who will see that, and take advantage when opportunity awaits. It's the seasoned vets. They've been there, done that. The finance guys shorting the markets for a living. We could argue speculation, math and politics all day long, but, what's been done has been done. None of us have crystal balls. One instrument we access to is past history. We can see that they are real numbers. But they are in the past for everyone else to see.. I want to quote a few of Warren Buffett's quotes that came up in my mind when people were panicking.

"The investors of today does not profit from yesterday's growth." "Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree along time ago."

"What we learn from history is that people don't learn from history." When investors get either too fearful or too greedy, they sometimes hide behind the notion that "This time it's different." Usually they regret it.

"If past history was all there, the richest people would be librarians."

You can teach risk management, but you can't teach balls. It's definitely going to be harder to grow your investments in this space. My personal advice would be to hold. I don't know where you got in or out, but eventually, you will learn from your mistakes and you will have that much more knowledge in the next run. I hope this helps
Even if the bolded part could be consider it to be funny by some it is correct, you can learn a lot of things from a book but you cannot teach a person to have the guts to take action, this is what happened with the recent crash, there were people bold enough to buy bitcoin at a very high price but when they realized that they were losing money they didn't have enough character to keep holding, only those that have the character to stick to it and keep holding their coins no matter what are the ones that are going to get huge profits.
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May 05, 2018, 03:05:40 AM
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It is equally important to hold as it is to invest your cryptos in other areas in the crypto markets such as ICOs. You have to divide your cryptos into investment and hodl portions. When the market is so low you can buy as much as the portion you set for investment would allow you to buy. Some people are not good at trading and such people should be extremely careful about investing all their cryptos in trading or in ICOs. dividing them is always the best thing to do.
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May 06, 2018, 12:38:11 PM
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It is equally important to hold as it is to invest your cryptos in other areas in the crypto markets such as ICOs. You have to divide your cryptos into investment and hodl portions. When the market is so low you can buy as much as the portion you set for investment would allow you to buy. Some people are not good at trading and such people should be extremely careful about investing all their cryptos in trading or in ICOs. dividing them is always the best thing to do.

I agree, this is another investment strategy I've proposed in the past. You would definitely need another source of income of course (job, business, ect ect) I would ever go as far as to say you could advise a project in return of assets. Structuring an allocation agreement.
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May 07, 2018, 12:47:52 PM
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It is equally important to hold as it is to invest your cryptos in other areas in the crypto markets such as ICOs. You have to divide your cryptos into investment and hodl portions. When the market is so low you can buy as much as the portion you set for investment would allow you to buy. Some people are not good at trading and such people should be extremely careful about investing all their cryptos in trading or in ICOs. dividing them is always the best thing to do.
I myself recommend not to put entire amount of coin at stake while trading. At least not when a person knows he does not have sufficient learning and understanding of his asset as well his coin.Tradingmust be learnt with a coin which if lost wont effect capital too badly. Altcoins are best for this purpose. Once someone has all the required cards in his hands, he should shift to bitcoin trading.

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May 09, 2018, 10:01:01 AM
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You can teach risk management, but you can't teach balls. It's definitely going to be harder to grow your investments in this space. My personal advice would be to hold. I don't know where you got in or out, but eventually, you will learn from your mistakes and you will have that much more knowledge in the next run. I hope this helps

I would advise to hold the coins you invested in. But in troubled times on the market you can sell coins. When the situation becomes more understandable, you can invest again. Risk management is not only profit, but also an opportunity to save your trading account.

True. For now, I am holding, but if these trouble times come, I will sell the coins I do have. When I hold crypto, I know that it is growing in the price. The longer you keep it, the higher the benefits are.
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May 24, 2018, 01:20:58 AM
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In this world ,everything is unpredictable so for trading case, it's far more unpredictable especially when you're using your own money, the emotion included !
For me, I was amaze when I knew bitcoin 4 years ago, ( $ 299 / btc ) and today it's already $ $ 8000++/btc , I'm sure either everyone.
That's why I always hold most of my bits until now !
It is a good thing for those who have been in the community for a very long time and that is the reason why they have been able to understand the importance and the benefits of holding. I really do not see why anyone should not be holding, except they are professional traders who are trying to trade the fluctuations to hold a better position in the market in the long run. Holding has always been a very good option and there is really no doubt about it.
Digital assets especially bitcoin are basically good for long term investment. A person will be able to make ample amount of money. The longer someone holds his coin, the bigger is his increment in the capital. It is not easy to tradeing digital assets and gaining profit but if someone is able to pull this, that means he has been in this market for long and understands it’s all ups and downs well.
We know that holding is the easiest way to make a profit, we just have to hold and wait until the price is really high in line with your price target, but you know that prices will continue to rise and fall due to fluctuations, sometimes when I just occasionally see the market, precisely the price is lower than a few months earlier when I bought, sometimes that makes me panic? and think to take advantage of the best chance possible rather than holding for a long time
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May 24, 2018, 02:02:59 AM
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None of us, has a crystal ball and we're not all-in on the tech, we are emotional individuals and we've been financially attacked.   Angry

If the majority of us were looking at the same chart and a general direction of the market, guess who will see that, and take advantage when opportunity awaits. It's the seasoned vets. They've been there, done that. The finance guys shorting the markets for a living. We could argue speculation, math and politics all day long, but, what's been done has been done. None of us have crystal balls. One instrument we access to is past history. We can see that they are real numbers. But they are in the past for everyone else to see.. I want to quote a few of Warren Buffett's quotes that came up in my mind when people were panicking.

"The investors of today does not profit from yesterday's growth." "Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree along time ago."

"What we learn from history is that people don't learn from history." When investors get either too fearful or too greedy, they sometimes hide behind the notion that "This time it's different." Usually they regret it.

"If past history was all there, the richest people would be librarians."

You can teach risk management, but you can't teach balls. It's definitely going to be harder to grow your investments in this space. My personal advice would be to hold. I don't know where you got in or out, but eventually, you will learn from your mistakes and you will have that much more knowledge in the next run. I hope this helps


I agree with you, your professional post make me believe that keep learn and hold is the right decisions. We don't like mistakes but never learn from it is very wrong. To built a good strategy and successful trader/ investor we should learn and always fix method. I hope this post will always up date because for psychology learning, it's very good.   

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If the majority of us were looking at the same chart and a general direction of the market, guess who will see that, and take advantage when opportunity awaits. It's the seasoned vets. They've been there, done that. The finance guys shorting the markets for a living. We could argue speculation, math and politics all day long, but, what's been done has been done. None of us have crystal balls. One instrument we access to is past history. We can see that they are real numbers. But they are in the past for everyone else to see..

This is true, but the thing is some traders are better than others to make "Predictions" according to what happened on the past, because sometimes/ most of the times there are patterns and they follow them and most people do not get to see the pattern. but by studying past charts they see that and make the right decisions based on them, so for a trader past is extremely important as I see, we cannot neglect the past when it comes to the market.

not saying it completely depend on the past, but most of the times they follow very very close patterns.

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May 24, 2018, 02:33:05 AM
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That's right if you hold it, you're not pushing it. if you have a lot of money to hold you first, if you do not have a sale first. That's just simple.
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May 24, 2018, 04:07:00 AM
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You're right, and holding a coin is still the effective strategy for gaining profits in long term. Holding coins is very effective during market downtrend when their prices goes down and all you have to do is be patience wait for their price to go up again. Their price could go down further but if these coins you are holding are known to be potential then you don't have to worry because they will recover soon.
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