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April 10, 2018, 11:48:44 PM
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I do not even know what is the advantage of allowing players to have 2000 bets per minutes.
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Overall, it does not worth for both players and the site's owner.
... Says the user with the "fastest btc dicegame" in the signature 😉
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April 11, 2018, 12:16:14 PM
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You're actually telling that 2000 bets per minutes are allowed on your site?
I believe you should know that this could be highly mid used and won't be much of a benefit for the house.
Can someone confirm if they have actually done 2k bets per minute?
What's wrong with having that amount of bets per minute ? As long as it doesn't jam the server and give a terrible user experience for everyone accessing the game at that point of time,it's fine.Also 2000 bets per minute is a small number compared to the players who auto-bet using a bot.They do much more than that!

You are right, 2000 bets per minute is small amount but how if there are hundreds players doing the same thing at the same time? Obviously it will jam the server IMO, I do not even know what is the advantage of allowing players to have 2000 bets per minutes. I'm sure it will be used only by players with small bets only because big players wont think twice to use this speed for big bet amount.
Overall, it does not worth for both players and the site's owner.

Man...look at your slogan on YOUR own SIGN. Lol
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April 11, 2018, 12:21:55 PM
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You're actually telling that 2000 bets per minutes are allowed on your site?
I believe you should know that this could be highly mid used and won't be much of a benefit for the house.
Can someone confirm if they have actually done 2k bets per minute?
What's wrong with having that amount of bets per minute ? As long as it doesn't jam the server and give a terrible user experience for everyone accessing the game at that point of time,it's fine.Also 2000 bets per minute is a small number compared to the players who auto-bet using a bot.They do much more than that!
I don't know any site that allows a user to place those many number of bets using a bot. All sites including PD and other major sites don't allow you to place beyond a certain velocity.
And 2000bets / minute official speed is bound to jam the server.

This is why they said their site is better from others because they can even 2k bets in a minute which is really impossible. But judging from the screenshot, that is seuntjie's work of course but I do not know yet for sure. I hope OP or seunjie will clarify this thing before someone fall for this kind of trick. 2k of bets per minute is sound like tricky to me unless you are bing near the server


There is something "strange" in this thread. Maybe some hero and legend got interest with other dicegame site?  Undecided

Btw, why dont simple READ and TRY by yourself?

1- read: you got 2000 bets per minute if you rent our VM. That's all.
2- try: before say "impossible" first of all you should try. Problem? Simply ASK before make wrong sentence.

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April 11, 2018, 01:58:06 PM
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I like the fact that new dice sites are opening up even now, years after the biggest dice 'hype'
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April 11, 2018, 06:02:54 PM
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You're actually telling that 2000 bets per minutes are allowed on your site?
I believe you should know that this could be highly mid used and won't be much of a benefit for the house.
Can someone confirm if they have actually done 2k bets per minute?
What's wrong with having that amount of bets per minute ? As long as it doesn't jam the server and give a terrible user experience for everyone accessing the game at that point of time,it's fine.Also 2000 bets per minute is a small number compared to the players who auto-bet using a bot.They do much more than that!

You are right, 2000 bets per minute is small amount but how if there are hundreds players doing the same thing at the same time? Obviously it will jam the server IMO, I do not even know what is the advantage of allowing players to have 2000 bets per minutes. I'm sure it will be used only by players with small bets only because big players wont think twice to use this speed for big bet amount.
Overall, it does not worth for both players and the site's owner.

Man...look at your slogan on YOUR own SIGN. Lol

Whats wrong with the slogan? Are you referring to the "The Fastest"?
Be smart a little bit dude, fastest is not always connected to betting speed. It can be related to other thing, like how it grows etc.
OK I'm done with it, no need to reply this post again as I wont read it LOL and good luck with your "New Era" of Dice gaming.

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April 11, 2018, 07:29:52 PM
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You're actually telling that 2000 bets per minutes are allowed on your site?
I believe you should know that this could be highly mid used and won't be much of a benefit for the house.
Can someone confirm if they have actually done 2k bets per minute?
What's wrong with having that amount of bets per minute ? As long as it doesn't jam the server and give a terrible user experience for everyone accessing the game at that point of time,it's fine.Also 2000 bets per minute is a small number compared to the players who auto-bet using a bot.They do much more than that!

You are right, 2000 bets per minute is small amount but how if there are hundreds players doing the same thing at the same time? Obviously it will jam the server IMO, I do not even know what is the advantage of allowing players to have 2000 bets per minutes. I'm sure it will be used only by players with small bets only because big players wont think twice to use this speed for big bet amount.
Overall, it does not worth for both players and the site's owner.

have never seen sites that are capable of rolling 35 bets per second (2000/60 roughly)
the one dice site that came close to it was Fast dice,now defunct
it is almost impossible to do so without a proper infrastructure i.e. deciated servers with load balancers etc.
you cannot expect to set one one even several VPS and have such  a speed
wait untill 10-200 bots are rolling at the same time,I am sure the speed won't be anywhere near advertised

on the unrelated note,planning any promotions?
also the site doesn't have any way to testdrive it without depositing,no faucet,no play money

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April 12, 2018, 02:32:05 PM
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You're actually telling that 2000 bets per minutes are allowed on your site?
I believe you should know that this could be highly mid used and won't be much of a benefit for the house.
Can someone confirm if they have actually done 2k bets per minute?
What's wrong with having that amount of bets per minute ? As long as it doesn't jam the server and give a terrible user experience for everyone accessing the game at that point of time,it's fine.Also 2000 bets per minute is a small number compared to the players who auto-bet using a bot.They do much more than that!

You are right, 2000 bets per minute is small amount but how if there are hundreds players doing the same thing at the same time? Obviously it will jam the server IMO, I do not even know what is the advantage of allowing players to have 2000 bets per minutes. I'm sure it will be used only by players with small bets only because big players wont think twice to use this speed for big bet amount.
Overall, it does not worth for both players and the site's owner.

have never seen sites that are capable of rolling 35 bets per second (2000/60 roughly)
the one dice site that came close to it was Fast dice,now defunct
it is almost impossible to do so without a proper infrastructure i.e. deciated servers with load balancers etc.
you cannot expect to set one one even several VPS and have such  a speed
wait untill 10-200 bots are rolling at the same time,I am sure the speed won't be anywhere near advertised

on the unrelated note,planning any promotions?
also the site doesn't have any way to testdrive it without depositing,no faucet,no play money


Just rent a bot or take a look at:

https://youtu.be/qFPbTaGw81M

By and thank you like always
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April 12, 2018, 06:35:34 PM
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You're actually telling that 2000 bets per minutes are allowed on your site?
I believe you should know that this could be highly mid used and won't be much of a benefit for the house.
Can someone confirm if they have actually done 2k bets per minute?
What's wrong with having that amount of bets per minute ? As long as it doesn't jam the server and give a terrible user experience for everyone accessing the game at that point of time,it's fine.Also 2000 bets per minute is a small number compared to the players who auto-bet using a bot.They do much more than that!

You are right, 2000 bets per minute is small amount but how if there are hundreds players doing the same thing at the same time? Obviously it will jam the server IMO, I do not even know what is the advantage of allowing players to have 2000 bets per minutes. I'm sure it will be used only by players with small bets only because big players wont think twice to use this speed for big bet amount.
Overall, it does not worth for both players and the site's owner.

have never seen sites that are capable of rolling 35 bets per second (2000/60 roughly)
the one dice site that came close to it was Fast dice,now defunct
it is almost impossible to do so without a proper infrastructure i.e. deciated servers with load balancers etc.
you cannot expect to set one one even several VPS and have such  a speed
wait untill 10-200 bots are rolling at the same time,I am sure the speed won't be anywhere near advertised

on the unrelated note,planning any promotions?
also the site doesn't have any way to testdrive it without depositing,no faucet,no play money


Just rent a bot or take a look at:

https://youtu.be/qFPbTaGw81M

By and thank you like always

So it means that the bets are placed locally on the server. I remember there was a similar website fastdice not sure if it's the same owner.
It can work out great if your website is doesn't exit scam similar to the one they pulled off.
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April 12, 2018, 06:47:42 PM
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You're actually telling that 2000 bets per minutes are allowed on your site?
I believe you should know that this could be highly mid used and won't be much of a benefit for the house.
Can someone confirm if they have actually done 2k bets per minute?
What's wrong with having that amount of bets per minute ? As long as it doesn't jam the server and give a terrible user experience for everyone accessing the game at that point of time,it's fine.Also 2000 bets per minute is a small number compared to the players who auto-bet using a bot.They do much more than that!

You are right, 2000 bets per minute is small amount but how if there are hundreds players doing the same thing at the same time? Obviously it will jam the server IMO, I do not even know what is the advantage of allowing players to have 2000 bets per minutes. I'm sure it will be used only by players with small bets only because big players wont think twice to use this speed for big bet amount.
Overall, it does not worth for both players and the site's owner.

have never seen sites that are capable of rolling 35 bets per second (2000/60 roughly)
the one dice site that came close to it was Fast dice,now defunct
it is almost impossible to do so without a proper infrastructure i.e. deciated servers with load balancers etc.
you cannot expect to set one one even several VPS and have such  a speed
wait untill 10-200 bots are rolling at the same time,I am sure the speed won't be anywhere near advertised

on the unrelated note,planning any promotions?
also the site doesn't have any way to testdrive it without depositing,no faucet,no play money


Just rent a bot or take a look at:

https://youtu.be/qFPbTaGw81M

By and thank you like always

So it means that the bets are placed locally on the server. I remember there was a similar website fastdice not sure if it's the same owner.
It can work out great if your website is doesn't exit scam similar to the one they pulled off.

Don't know what you are talking about, if it was similar or not. If it was fast as our NitroDice or not.

For sure i can say we are not here to scam someone. We hope to profit something (of course) like all other dicegame around and we will launch some new idea (hope soon) to involve as more players as possible.

Have a nice day.
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April 12, 2018, 06:51:00 PM
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I've opened and tried to register there ,, this dice site has a common design in use dice sites. bet low and bet hi i think it's very boring Grin sorry before, without reducing respect or grieving this site, but i think bustadice is still better in this compare
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I've opened and tried to register there ,, this dice site has a common design in use dice sites. bet low and bet hi i think it's very boring Grin sorry before, without reducing respect or grieving this site, but i think bustadice is still better in this compare
From the screenshot, it does look similar to the site you are mentioning about.
Atleast the color scheme does but the gameplay you would expect it to be a bullet out of the box from the name.
But to see if this is comparable you would need to make a deposit first to try it out. Smiley
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I've opened and tried to register there ,, this dice site has a common design in use dice sites. bet low and bet hi i think it's very boring Grin sorry before, without reducing respect or grieving this site, but i think bustadice is still better in this compare
From the screenshot, it does look similar to the site you are mentioning about.
Atleast the color scheme does but the gameplay you would expect it to be a bullet out of the box from the name.
But to see if this is comparable you would need to make a deposit first to try it out. Smiley
I come from their site the color scheme was an effect on your eyes after playing the dice.
Can I ask? Is there a faucet on this site to try our luck even 10 sats of trying the dice is much better.

Its look like this dice site was not fully developed, I saw in the chat box many complaints regarding their sites.

but i think bustadice is still better in this compare
Good choice that was on my mind too.
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April 12, 2018, 07:36:18 PM
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I've opened and tried to register there ,, this dice site has a common design in use dice sites. bet low and bet hi i think it's very boring Grin sorry before, without reducing respect or grieving this site, but i think bustadice is still better in this compare
From the screenshot, it does look similar to the site you are mentioning about.
Atleast the color scheme does but the gameplay you would expect it to be a bullet out of the box from the name.
But to see if this is comparable you would need to make a deposit first to try it out. Smiley
Maybe for the future I could have tried it  Grin ,. I have not been interested because bustadice still gives me an advantage. when it looks like next week I will try this site, ..

Its look like this dice site was not fully developed, I saw in the chat box many complaints regarding their sites.
no wonder if in the chat box many who complain ,, it almost happens in all sites available live chat ,, and that's because the number of lay gamblers
but i think bustadice is still better in this compare
Good choice that was on my mind too.
because I think bustadice is the perfect choice for playing dice
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April 12, 2018, 08:31:22 PM
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I've opened and tried to register there ,, this dice site has a common design in use dice sites. bet low and bet hi i think it's very boring Grin sorry before, without reducing respect or grieving this site, but i think bustadice is still better in this compare
From the screenshot, it does look similar to the site you are mentioning about.
Atleast the color scheme does but the gameplay you would expect it to be a bullet out of the box from the name.
But to see if this is comparable you would need to make a deposit first to try it out. Smiley
Maybe for the future I could have tried it  Grin ,. I have not been interested because bustadice still gives me an advantage. when it looks like next week I will try this site, ..

Its look like this dice site was not fully developed, I saw in the chat box many complaints regarding their sites.
no wonder if in the chat box many who complain ,, it almost happens in all sites available live chat ,, and that's because the number of lay gamblers
but i think bustadice is still better in this compare
Good choice that was on my mind too.
because I think bustadice is the perfect choice for playing dice

We think most people prefer to play with Dicebot on a faster site.

Anyway, we will try to make the website more attractive day by day.

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April 12, 2018, 11:49:15 PM
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Straight from your dicebot video (the bet IDs)



Normal site they go up logically:




:thinking:

Also please stop faking volume, it's pretty obvious as you don't get whales named "letmewin", "noone", "love_this_nitrodice" betting thousands of dollars of BTC at a time with random amounts 24/7 on a site this new. More established sites that are more reputable don't get your level of whales, so it's quite obvious they're fake.

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April 13, 2018, 03:48:47 AM
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Straight from your dicebot video (the bet IDs)



Normal site they go up logically:




:thinking:

Also please stop faking volume, it's pretty obvious as you don't get whales named "letmewin", "noone", "love_this_nitrodice" betting thousands of dollars of BTC at a time with random amounts 24/7 on a site this new. More established sites that are more reputable don't get your level of whales, so it's quite obvious they're fake.
Sometimes people do really think that writing such names might bring them luck.
I personally used to write such things in my user seeds, though not here but on primedice.
But it can equally be case of fake volume.


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Straight from your dicebot video (the bet IDs)



Normal site they go up logically:




:thinking:

Also please stop faking volume, it's pretty obvious as you don't get whales named "letmewin", "noone", "love_this_nitrodice" betting thousands of dollars of BTC at a time with random amounts 24/7 on a site this new. More established sites that are more reputable don't get your level of whales, so it's quite obvious they're fake.
Sometimes people do really think that writing such names might bring them luck.
I personally used to write such things in my user seeds, though not here but on primedice.
But it can equally be case of fake volume.
All users are REAL users on nitrodice db. This does not mean are all HUMAN users. Most of them are "testing" user.  Testing speed, creation/deletion user, engine status, betting functionality etc etc.

So... what is your concern about to seeing or not other "humans" playing? How does it affect you gaming experience?

Please have a look to all comments since the beginning of the thread, all your insinuations were refuted: you can not cover winnings, your server can not support 2000+ bets minute, your website is unfinished etc.

We do understand you put your interest somewhere else but please stop making judgmental assertions with no evidences.

If this is the level of comments quality of some of the most important bitcointalk members please feel free to delete this thread.
Otherwise please try to give constructive feedback form now on.


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All users are REAL users on nitrodice db. This does not mean are all HUMAN users. Most of them are "testing" user.  Testing speed, creation/deletion user, engine status, betting functionality etc etc.

So... what is your concern about to seeing or not other "humans" playing? How does it affect you gaming experience?

It doesn't affect my gaming experience, because it's shady, misleading and a poor practice, that makes me never want to play there in the first place. Faking volume makes your site appear more trustworthy than it is, it misleads players who might want to come 'whale watch'. It also makes it appear that you don't know what you're doing to an experienced person who doesn't realize volume is fake. It would be trivial for you to test on a private server, or make some "TEST" token that's used only for testing.

Here is a bet where a player bets 0.921BTC (it's a fake player I assume, but test players should still follow your limits, right?) trying to win around an 18x multiplier. You've stated that your bankroll is over $100000, but for the sake of being safe, I'll assume you have quadruple that, which is equivalent to nearly 50 BTC. At a 0.5% house edge, if the bet wins, the house would lose 15.65BTC, which is over 1/4th of your bankroll, but I'll use 1/4th for safe measure. 25% of the bankroll/0.5% house edge = 50x Kelly. 2x kelly is when the investor/house's EBG (expected bankroll growth) is basically zero, and at 50x Kelly, your EV is positive, but your bankroll is expected to go down very quickly. It shows to the math competent player that your model is flawed, and unsustainable, making it something to avoid.

If I did ignore the whole "no easily verifiable bankroll and horrible negative bankroll growth setup", and decided to play here, it would affect my gaming experience. Many people come to dice sites to socialize, in which large activity is needed to happen. A new player looking at your site would see a decently active player base with a number of whales based on the recent bet list, and the speed in which bets come in, but your chat is dead, and the whales are fake.

The community had a problem when BetBTC.co faked stats and bets and when FortuneJack faked stats, if that gives you any ideas into why people care.

Are you really saying that you see no problem with faking a large amount of betting volume? There are much better ways to test.

Please have a look to all comments since the beginning of the thread, all your insinuations were refuted: you can not cover winnings, your server can not support 2000+ bets minute, your website is unfinished etc.

I pointed out that something seems off with the Dicebot bets; the bet IDs made zero sense. I did some more checking, and guess what?
Bet ID 23718 is a bet made by dissenting_metaphor_6 (not enjoy_nitrodice_the_faster_dice like on your video) that bets 0.061393 BCH (not the 1 DOGE like shown on your Dicebot), it lost 0.061393 BCH (again not the 1 DOGE shown on your Dicebot), had a nonce of 1190 (not the 7517 shown on your Dicebot), and rolled 0.00997, which again, is not the 2.3718 shown on Dicebot.



I expect you to refute this by saying that the Dicebot testing was done on a separate test server, but as shown by your willingness to test betting speeds on your main server, that is unlikely, and does not help prove your point that the main server handles 2000 bets per second. You can't expect a real bettor to be willing to bet on a separate server either, as they would not have a proper record of bets, and cannot verify provably fair manually. If the bet IDs are incorrect, then you should not be publishing and selling the bot on a VPS in it's form; what good is a fast bot if the bets are unverifiable?

Here's an archive of the specific bet, for future reference. The other bets don't make sense either! (each linked word in the last sentence is an archive of the bet record that Nitrodice shows for each bet ID I grabbed in the screenshot)


Side Note: Does anyone know of a site where you can archive YouTube videos?


I do understand you put your interest somewhere else but please stop making judgmental assertions with no evidences.

I do believe that this is just grasping at straws, but for full disclosure, not that it really matters, but I do have some BTC invested into other dice sites:
0.5BTC - Crypto-Games.net
0.15BTC - Bustadice
0.1BTC - Bustabit
0.3BTC - YOLODice
~0.06BTC worth of BetKing tokens

You could argue that I have a financial incentive in making your site fail, which could be true to an extent. However, my share is a very small percentage compared to other investors, and even if your site were to attract 10000 BTC worth of volume in a month, assuming it all went to YOLODice, where I have the highest proportion (0.05% of the bankroll), and luck was 100%, the site would expect to gain 100 BTC in profit (1% edge), and 0.05BTC would go me, or 0.0325BTC in net, after YOLODice's commission (35% profits).

That's all assuming that your site manages to attract that much real volume; YOLODice has run for 5 months, and has only 19k BTC wagered in all. Primedice, arguably the most popular dice site has only had 6000 BTC wagered in the past month, give or take. So no, I do not have any incentive to smear your website. I do agree that I lacked evidence, but my post was based off of assumptions and logic. You did admit afterwards that the volume was fake, so it's not like I was wrong. I just provided evidence that your Dicebot is either fake, or severely messed up as well, and that your business model is flawed and will bankrupt you should you attract any real whales.

How's this for quality?  Tongue

You also wanted constructive criticism, so my constructive advise is:
1. Stop faking volume, either intentionally (probable) or unintentionally and move to a proper test server
2. Reassess your business strategy so that it is sustainable, and learn about the world of Bitcoin Gambling you plan on breaking into
3. Don't falsely accuse people of having other interests without proof; if you attack everyone that criticizes you, you won't have success
4. Perhaps hold more BTC so that you can have a provably and public reserve of funds

Stuff you're doing good with:
1. API


edit: fixed typo, improved explanation

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April 14, 2018, 05:57:48 AM
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I think Darkstar explanation has brought a lot of issues that many of us would have missed, the stats are good and honestly darkstar there was no need to put your investments out, as there's no need to clarify your integrity. Faking volumes is the worst idea, if you're afraid of low traffic you could keep contests, signature campaigns, but do legit stuff, once your image is broken it's really difficult to fix it. However if you fix the issues maybe you'll have a chance.

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April 15, 2018, 11:36:55 AM
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Hi, I can request a withdraw, but it never gets sent, please solve
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