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January 27, 2014, 11:32:09 PM
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Thank you virtuals for the update. I am submitting all e-mail histories with alberto.armandi@gmail.com, info@labcoin.com and sam.noi@labcoin.com to our lawyer so he can keep that on file. Good to see progress happening.
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January 28, 2014, 05:07:22 AM
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Our people might get to the bottom of things faster if they start in Carbonia, Italy.

http://i.imgur.com/pWl3uCS.png

Remember when Alberto told you he was going to get married near his home in Sardinia?

Also, maybe we can glean some more info from here to help the case.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ncckq/labcoin_has_been_outed_as_a_scam_run_by_notorious/


Also, what, if anything do we know about the location/whereabouts/background of the Swede? (Of course Sweden would be a good guess, but we can't assum such things). J/W how was the Swede able to cover his tracks but the others weren't? Just being sloppy?

Do you guys thing Sam  Noi = fake person = Alberto?

With Alberto's past, how come there has never been a lawsuit before? (Possibly, no way to fund it?.... Crazy how BTC made the funding of a suit like this possible)

:-). If we pursue justice we can be proud of the outcome.
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January 28, 2014, 09:17:50 AM
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I just sent my e-mail to the lawyer, but have been busy so missed the 10 am deadline. Hope I am included in the lawsuit as well.
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January 28, 2014, 06:07:37 PM
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I sent my email 12 days ago to the lawyer, but have not yet received any confirmation. Did something go wrong? The way I understand it is that the lawyer should have responded to our emails?

EDIT: confirmation received from the lawyer. Thank you
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January 28, 2014, 06:55:24 PM
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I sent my email 12 days ago to the lawyer, but have not yet received any confirmation. Did something go wrong? The way I understand it is that the lawyer should have responded to our emails?

Yes the lawyer should have sent a reply to everyone who contacted him last week, all the people who sent the information this week has not yet been replied to by the lawyer.

If you sent your information to the lawyer last week, and didn't get a reply, PM me and we will find out what went wrong. Please add the email address that you sent your information from and the date/time when you sent the message.

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January 30, 2014, 10:46:09 AM
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I only just sent off my information to the lawyer. I have been overseas for work and haven't been paying attention to this stuff. I am shattered if I have missed out completely - I hope that I can be added before the complaint is submitted. I will contribute .4BTC to the legal fund if I can be included. I lost nearly 39BTC to the Labcoin scam.

Unlevereged financial instruments acting as a store of value that fluctuate 50% within 10 minutes is perfectly acceptable. I think it should be offered in IRA form to soon to be retirees.
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January 30, 2014, 01:56:12 PM
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^^^I'm sure lawyer will be taking time to collate all the figures.

Better half sent our details today. 

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January 31, 2014, 02:51:00 AM
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Just received an email from the lawyer (our homework was all filled in correctly so is being included).

Phew Tongue


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January 31, 2014, 02:55:50 AM
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What is the amount still owing to the lawyer in btc?
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January 31, 2014, 03:13:21 AM
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The remaining amount 2221.40€ (current bitcoin.de price 592.01€ = 3.7523 BTC), needs to be payed before the lawyer submits the complaint next week.

The exact amount may change a little bit if the price of Bitcoin goes up or down.

0.95 BTC are still needed to get to 3.75 BTC

https://blockchain.info/address/1PHDaiUMq5u3WTAwmYv7ioNnKfEGYXBtmT

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January 31, 2014, 01:15:45 PM
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Hey guys, I emailed the lawyer, but i still need to give the sxact informations about the transaciton history of the shares.

But I cannot find my Api keys,  where are they supposed to be?   can't find them in my email
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January 31, 2014, 01:25:10 PM
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Hey guys, I emailed the lawyer, but i still need to give the sxact informations about the transaciton history of the shares.

But I cannot find my Api keys,  where are they supposed to be?   can't find them in my email

For BTCT, Burnside must have sent your API to your registered mail address a couple of weeks ago (got mine on the 14/01/14). Maybe you registered with different mail?

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January 31, 2014, 02:50:43 PM
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Email is the same.. no idea why ..mmm
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January 31, 2014, 02:58:47 PM
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Email is the same.. no idea why ..mmm

Email Burnside, he should be able to sort this out for you: ceo[at]btct.co

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February 01, 2014, 01:46:57 PM
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Update about the complaint

The lawyer has sent me the criminal complaint, in the beginning of next week i will go to the local notary office to sign it, the notary will verify my identity and also sign it. After that I will express mail it to the lawyers office.

When the remaining amount of the invoice is payed, he will submit it to the Italian authorities. I will send the BTC to the lawyer immediately, when there is enough funds to cover the remaining amount of the invoice in the wallet.

There is currently 2.80 BTC in the donations wallet, so about 0.94 BTC is still needed to get to the 3.7 BTC target. So to everyone who has not yet donated, now would be a good time to do so.

In case of failure to get the funds with donations, I guess it's up to me to pay the remaining amount of the invoice, after all it is in my name.

I donated 0.12 BTC, and I have put hundred of hours of work in to this case, my economical situation is not very good at the moment, so I would really appreciate your help with this.


About the people who didn't send their information in time, I asked the lawyer about this, here is his answer:

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The complaint can be added upon, so new people can join in the future. But for our purpose that doesn't matter a lot, since we are not starting a class action here, but just filing a criminal complaint to Italian authorities for them to investigate and eventually prosecute people behind Labcoin. If a court case will result from investigation, then people could join the case asking for compensation. This maybe should be made clear to the people asking to join, since I feel they have a wrong idea of what we are doing.

I also some times get the feeling that people think this is a class action, that is not the case, this is the first step towards a class action, as I have mentioned Here and Here

For a class action, if there is a court case, we are going to need to hire a lawyer again, and collect all the people's information that wants to ask for compensation.

Thank you for your support,

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February 01, 2014, 02:06:24 PM
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Update about the complaint

The lawyer has sent me the criminal complaint, in the beginning of next week i will go to the local notary office to sign it, the notary will verify my identity and also sign it. After that I will express mail it to the lawyers office.

When the remaining amount of the invoice is payed, he will submit it to the Italian authorities. I will send the BTC to the lawyer immediately, when there is enough funds to cover the remaining amount of the invoice in the wallet.

There is currently 2.80 BTC in the donations wallet, so about 0.94 BTC is still needed to get to the 3.7 BTC target. So to everyone who has not yet donated, now would be a good time to do so.

In case of failure to get the funds with donations, I guess it's up to me to pay the remaining amount of the invoice, after all it is in my name.

I donated 0.12 BTC, and I have put hundred of hours of work in to this case, my economical situation is not very good at the moment, so I would really appreciate your help with this.


About the people who didn't send their information in time, I asked the lawyer about this, here is his answer:

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The complaint can be added upon, so new people can join in the future. But for our purpose that doesn't matter a lot, since we are not starting a class action here, but just filing a criminal complaint to Italian authorities for them to investigate and eventually prosecute people behind Labcoin. If a court case will result from investigation, then people could join the case asking for compensation. This maybe should be made clear to the people asking to join, since I feel they have a wrong idea of what we are doing.

I also some times get the feeling that people think this is a class action, that is not the case, this is the first step towards a class action, as I have mentioned Here and Here

For a class action, if there is a court case, we are going to need to hire a lawyer again, and collect all the people's information that wants to ask for compensation.

Thank you for your support,

virtualspade

Thanks of all your hard work VS (I know from my own experience just how time consuming and stressful the process is).  I for one have used the term class action as short hand for this procedure and apologise if that has contributed to confusion.
 
I will make another donation next week.
C'mon everyone chip in.

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February 01, 2014, 02:08:23 PM
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Today we got a surprise on the Italian section of the forum:

Io e mio fratello (Fabrizio Tatti) abbiamo parlato già da tempo con gli avvocati che si sono occupati del caso.
Non siamo coinvolti nella faccenda e gradiremmo che queste diffamazioni cessassero.
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Basically she's writing that she and his brother Alberto talked time ago with lawyers (which?) that followed this case, and politely told that they "would be pleased if such statements" (e.g. scammers, thiefs, etc.) cease.

Nice try, I'll bet on the "identity theft final" for this fairy story!

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February 01, 2014, 02:43:41 PM
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In case of failure to get the funds with donations, I guess it's up to me to pay the remaining amount of the invoice, after all it is in my name.


That should be out of the question. I know people lost a lot and are a bit sceptical about spending more to get some of their investment back, but at the end of the day you are not mama Teresa :]

I hate to have to say this as I would much rather see people voluntarily contribute, but if the majority is not willing to make a small donation, then obligatory contribution should be put forward as an option.

We are not asking for some crazy amount here. Has pointed out previously we have around 40 donations, which indicates that less the 1/2 the complainants contributed. If the remaining 40/50 give 0.02, 0.03 BTC (that's 16-24$), then we're good.

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February 01, 2014, 06:01:30 PM
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We are not asking for some crazy amount here. Has pointed out previously we have around 40 donations, which indicates that less the 1/2 the complainants contributed. If the remaining 40/50 give 0.02, 0.03 BTC (that's 16-24$), then we're good.
donated again a little I am able to afford
all involved should to be of some help...
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February 02, 2014, 12:25:18 PM
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Well its official CryptoStocks delisted LBC stocks so lets make sure this lawsuits goes to fruition.

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