Socialism vs capitalism ,which one is good for us ??

[Chusnul]

Socialism is better for the economy as it implies an economy that is watched closely by those in charge and is manipulated to be at it's peak at all times. On the other end of the spectrum, Capitalism is better for the individual as it allows the individual to do what they want with their life without government interference and allows for maximum happiness. Overall, which is better depends on whether you value the economy or the individual more.

[joebrook]

In my opinion Socialism is good for us.
Because,capitalism is associated with unfair and inefficient distribution of wealth and power.So there is no chance for equal growth.In this model "rich get richer and the poor get poorer".
If we think like environmentalist,then capitalism requires continual economic growth and will inevitably deplete the FINITE natural resources of the earth.

But with socialism everyone has the chance of creating wealth for themselves and i will not say that Capitalism is associated with the unfair distribution of wealth because i have seen people without a dime make an unimaginable fortune but the same cannot be said about socialism.

[popcorn1]

Capitalism the few benefit < The rich get richer until they suck it all up collapsing the currency ..

Socialism the many get by < Borrow high taxes until it's all gone then it collapses ..

communism everyone the same < A trained pilot on the same as an unskilled bin man in the end it collapses
because why should i train and learn and be on the same as someone who doesn't ..

None of the 3 can survive all on their own ..
Need to mix all 3 for the world to keep turning ..

A universal income for everyone will make this planet way way better just the greedy who have it all cannot see this because they love people being DOWN ..

10k starting point to live every year when we reach 21 years old ..
10k doesn't make you rich just helps for the domestic things in life so we can find better jobs or even do a job for £20 extra a day plus your 10k  makes life so much better ..

Yes but it's OK for a POLITICIAN to be on 100k for talking complete bullshit..

Some of those MPs have been put there by parents ..KINNOCK robbing scum ..

[lockes007]

socialism vrs. capitalism
The 21st century is dominated by free trade and multinational corporations who are principal agents who produce and goods and services. This gives us (consumers) a variety of goods and services to choose from for satisfaction which allows for the efficient operation of the forces of demand. Contrary to Socialism which has the central government at the heart of the economic affairs.This limits consumers freedom to trade and choice of goods and services to consume. Capitalism has government afraid of their increasingly reduction of sovereignty.This is evident in the initial rejection  of  the cryptocurrency by the world governing bodies . So I would like to ask anyone regardless of their predisposition, which do you prefer, a system of freedom of choice  or one of constant interference and scrutiny by the government? PONDER OVER THIS

[popcorn1]

socialism vrs. capitalism
The 21st century is dominated by free trade and multinational corporations who are principal agents who produce and goods and services. This gives us (consumers) a variety of goods and services to choose from for satisfaction which allows for the efficient operation of the forces of demand. Contrary to Socialism which has the central government at the heart of the economic affairs.This limits consumers freedom to trade and choice of goods and services to consume. Capitalism has government afraid of their increasingly reduction of sovereignty.This is evident in the initial rejection  of  the cryptocurrency by the world governing bodies . So I would like to ask anyone regardless of their predisposition, which do you prefer, a system of freedom of choice  or one of constant interference and scrutiny by the government? PONDER OVER THIS

You cannot have free choice        no such thing unless you want chaos ..

I want laws made by elected people who know what they talk about ..
Not some unelected bullshit talker who promises you the world then turns out to be a scumbag political
bum thief ..

Freedom of choice is i will kill you and take your monies   WHY NOT?  it's my free choice?..

Now everyone PONDER OVER THAT

[popcorn1]

Lets do some more FREE WILL   FREE CHOICE ..

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I feel a SONG COMING..

Fluffy clouds and candy floss makes the world feel boss
fluffy clouds and candy floss
fluffy clouds and candy floss

If only the world was fluffy clouds and candy floss
we would all feel really really boss


I will finish the rest of the song when the world turns to fluffy clouds and candy floss td whiles the world then maybe we can have free choice  when we have fluffy clouds and candy floss..

And whiles the world turns into a capitalism globe we will expect many more dying for someone else stinky trainers < Shot in the head for STINKY TRAINERS ..

So ENJOY this FREE CHOICE because it sure does sound very crazy..< shoot you for trainers < Free choice.

No but i am well off and that's not right?..

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[xbrain]

for me, both system are not ok. capitalism will promote inequality while socialism will promote popularity without distribution of wealth equally

[KingScorpio]

In my opinion Socialism is good for us.
Because,capitalism is associated with unfair and inefficient distribution of wealth and power.So there is no chance for equal growth.In this model "rich get richer and the poor get poorer".
If we think like environmentalist,then capitalism requires continual economic growth and will inevitably deplete the FINITE natural resources of the earth.

you need both, a capitalism with sufficient socialism inside,

it will nevertheless create a wealth and power parity with few holding a lot of power and many holding nothing but at least a bigger portion of the population will be able to develop educated skills and will look much less like illiterate money earning cattle like in afghanistan/pakistan.

[morufu2016]

Socialism is good for us because, capitalism allows the rich to remove money from the economy, making the quality of life for everyone else worse. While socialism takes the excess that people do not need, and gives it to those who do.

[Mojo2012]

I’ve read alot of different opinions in this thread and it happened waht always happens. People start talking about a word they think has a clear meaning but actually has not.
Before we keep talking we should actually define what ‚socialism‘ means to you.

Socialism in the way marx though about: a basic democratic socienty whre everyome has the chance to persue his or her personal ideas.
Socialism ‚soviet style‘ (ignoring mhalf of marxs‘ texts): actually a better suited word for it is ‚stalinism‘ a oligarchy/dictatorship under the proclaimed ideals of socialism. The people are oppressed to fulfill ome or a few men‘s ideas. Individualization is suppressed.
Social-democratic countries like austria: free markets but heavily regulated to reduce the negative effects of capitalsm (like the rich getting richer) but harmess its potentials, like free persuit of ideas.

I personally would love to see a real socials/marxis society to be created. Aworld where I can live my dreams free from the need to make money.
Realistically a social-democratic socienty is the best way to live. It‘s easy to implement in short terms.

[silent_jay]

Socialism, but with the help of an comprehensive computer system for economic planning and without any kind of dictatorship. The problem is, that socialism is impossible in a certain country, as it is a threat for capitalism in the others.

[Moana]

Capitalism has already failed. There is no true concurrence any more. Corporations are the new dictators, and they have no mercy. I guess that a socialistic society is the lesser of the evils. Capitalism is about money and gadgets, socialism is about humans.

[coolcoinz]

Socialism is good for us because, capitalism allows the rich to remove money from the economy, making the quality of life for everyone else worse. While socialism takes the excess that people do not need, and gives it to those who do.

And socialism wants the rich to pay for the poor's inability to work, laziness, and everything else. It creates a society where you are afraid to set up a business and make a lot of money to fuel the economy and give jobs because the more you will make the more taxes will await you. And the majority will be given for free so that the poor can learn to rely on the state and vote to keep everything going.

Politicians get elected by the majority which in most countries are the poor >>> they give money to the poor and take it from the rich >>> get elected again. But this has a huge flaw. The rich may one day decide they don't want to live in a country that steals from them and move somewhere else. France serves as an example.

[KingScorpio]

Capitalism has already failed. There is no true concurrence any more. Corporations are the new dictators, and they have no mercy. I guess that a socialistic society is the lesser of the evils. Capitalism is about money and gadgets, socialism is about humans.

capitlism failed multiple times, last time it failed was, just before the holocaust,

now i am afriad capitalism will fail again, because everyone wants to create cryptocurrencies and find money earning cattle that work for it.

[eddie13]

A step towards socialism is a step towards genocide..

[3acaga]

I am now 41 years old and I have lived almost 15 years in socialism (Ukraine).
And this is what I will answer you:
Socialism is a system in which all are equal, and you can not translate your ideas and dreams into reality if it is not accepted by the rules for all.
Capitalism - always gives a chance to a person to do what he likes and choose his life according to his personal taste.
There are many good things that I remember from socialism, but I do not want to go back there !!!

[popcorn1]

Capitalism is Superior Competition between private owners of production creates lower prices, greater efficiency, and improved quality. People are motivated to do their best when they see the results of their effort. Capitalism aligns the incentives, and people thus are motivated to work hard and overall help the economy. People have economic liberty. Socialism removes these incentives, if John works twice as hard for the commune, he doesn't see another dime. In Capitalism, John would benefit from his work.

Capitalism has lifted far more people out of poverty, and raised standards of living higher than any other economic system. The evolutionary force of the market inspires innovation and ingenuity. Over time, this system ensures economic liberty, prosperity, and human progress.

Some don't talk to newbies  BUT this involves everyone  so lets break it down what you had to say..

Capitalism aligns the incentives, and people thus are motivated to work hard and overall help the economy..
Everyone has to capitalise or how do you socialise ?..The difference is when you capitalise do you share the profits or do you let people keep them all?..

So who pays for police army roads trains hospitals schools ..
Now the point is you could privatise it all?   You have toll roads on every 1 mile?  less money out your wages well you need to pay for roads..

Police privatise the police?    Then you won't get protected if you get something stolen or attacked because you never paid your monthly police bill  plus what other things will a private police company do ?   meaning even more gone out your wages..

Hospitals privatised most cannot afford the insurance now in the USA so millions have no medical aid basically die you never paid  so paying medical insurance means even more gone out your wages ..


A home how much does that cost to get a mortgage   so because of low paid high costing plus all things private your paying just to live and get by ..

And this is why so many will take a risk at doing some crime to be rich   factory job dead end job that leads to nowhere ..

See ok if your from another country and your countries wages was low   It's like me from the UK going to DUBAI and getting a factory job for 1,500 a week for a factory worker   I can send loads back home and my family would benefit ..


You can have a choice ..IMAGINE for 1 minute  you have 100 people ?..

Now if 10 are rich and 20 are doing ok  BUT 70 are doing really bad  what would you rather live in because 70 people are going crazy in your 100 people village..

Now imagine 3 was rich and 70 was doing good and 27 was really poor then only 27 people going crazy in your 100 people village ..
And that is SOCIALISM^^^^^^^^^

So imagine an overall population of millions the less that are poor the less crazyness FACT..

Do you know the cost to the tax man because of poverty cost more than just saying here their is 10k a year..

1 POOR PERSON CAN COST MORE THAN 10K IN CRIMINAL DAMGE ..the law cost police cost all cost more than just saying here you go 10k every year and go and find a job and you still keep your 10k...Where does it come from?   DIDGETS ON A SCREEN  same as what the bank does ..

You YANKS are 20 trillion in debt so where is your capitalism ..  Borrowing off someone else future children is not CAPITLISM it's borrowing ..


I say a UNIVERSAL INCOME a starting point of 10k every year till we die    we all get it no matter how rich we become  we still get it ..

So how did people make a crypto token    money out of thin air    all the erc20 tokens  money out of thin air ..

OK for a UNIVERSAL INCOME   i will give everyone 10k and borrow it all on the strength of me finding a planet fall of gold ..
Well it's the same as some devs promises   and you invented free money out of thin air..

[Ava Duvall]

As i learned socialism is only good in theory. when applied to a real life society it doesn't work out,  capitalism has proved to work in  a society although not perfect but  much better than socialism

[Dominic_Johnson]

I think that many governments of wealthy countries had a bit of a mix of socialism and capitalism. People are allowed to own capital, but it is very limited. In those societies people can get rich, but they pay a big price for it. Some countries have more than 50% income tax once you start making a lot of money. These people can still keep earning more and more money, but as they do so they are also putting tons of it back into the society. This allows the government to share more of the wealth among its citizens. Hardcore capitalists are usually against such heavy taxation. Capitalism is more individualistic, while socialism thinks more about the welfare of everybody.

[milkiWay45]

Capitalism has already failed. There is no true concurrence any more. Corporations are the new dictators, and they have no mercy. I guess that a socialistic society is the lesser of the evils. Capitalism is about money and gadgets, socialism is about humans.

capitlism failed multiple times, last time it failed was, just before the holocaust,

now i am afriad capitalism will fail again, because everyone wants to create cryptocurrencies and find money earning cattle that work for it.

Capitalism didn't fail in the Weimar Republic. Capitalism as it is implies that governments do not intervene in the economy by any means. While the hyperinflation in Weimar Republic was caused exactly by governmental inrventions and uncontrolled printing of money.