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Be careful of fake Casascius coins. They really are getting good at it. Its just a matter of time before they will nail it to perfection.

There is one listed on ebay that is a pretty good forgery. Caveat emptor

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Casascius-Physical-Bitcoin-No-Reserve/202279178717?hash=item2f18c751dd:g:y0IAAOSwPoZaw6bd





https://i.imgur.com/D6kut3Z.jpg
The FORGERY is on the LEFT and the real one on the RIGHT



https://i.imgur.com/SyNTLDv.png
Notice the gap in the N is too wide on the Forgery!
Different Font used too. Looks like the forgery is THINNER than the real one!



https://i.imgur.com/HXbQ9oa.png
The lines too deep or more defined on the Forgery!



https://i.imgur.com/h2CLyW0.png
The background pattern is different on the Forgery!



https://i.imgur.com/dqgNeg8.png
The gap distance is smaller in the Forgery!



https://i.imgur.com/iAWMKDE.png
The last 1 in 2011 in the genuine CAS is THICKER than the fake and also thicker than the first 1.
So in a real cas the 11 are of different thickness and not identical in any way



https://i.imgur.com/TvWYncC.png
The number 2 is different also.





Photo of two coins next to each other, genuine is to the left. Forgery goldplated version to the right

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April 04, 2018, 03:41:09 PM
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What left and right? I just see one picture of the front at that auction. Just trying to see what you see.

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April 04, 2018, 03:46:38 PM
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What left and right? I just see one picture of the front at that auction. Just trying to see what you see.

2011 Cas Coins are not that well minted, which is the biggest spot IMO.  Lines are too thick as well. That’s just two things
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April 04, 2018, 03:55:13 PM
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Have to rely on you Casascius collectors, the photos in the Encyclopedia are not high resolution. I stay away from eBay never bought a collectible there. @Kialara says he will auction two Ruby Labyrinths on eBay though that should be fun to follow.

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April 04, 2018, 03:59:03 PM
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minerjones and I discussed if this was a fake or not this morning..... figured it was a fake.  Great thread to keep people informed. 

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April 04, 2018, 04:34:34 PM
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Wow, that’s scary! I would never have caught that, but now that you mention it, it’s very clear. At least this one doesn’t have a hologram

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April 04, 2018, 05:03:22 PM
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What left and right? I just see one picture of the front at that auction. Just trying to see what you see.

Updated Photo and placed FAKE and REAL inside pic

You have to give my pic time to load on forum.

Sometimes it loads sometimes it does not, so I also placed a direct link.

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April 04, 2018, 05:28:39 PM
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What left and right? I just see one picture of the front at that auction. Just trying to see what you see.

Updated Photo and placed FAKE and REAL inside pic

You have to give my pic time to load on forum.

Sometimes it loads sometimes it does not, so I also placed a direct link.

Yes loading fine now nice work thanks!

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April 04, 2018, 05:35:14 PM
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minerjones and I discussed if this was a fake or not this morning..... figured it was a fake.  Great thread to keep people informed.  

Yes that is who made me aware of it, MJ

I did the comparisons

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Have to rely on you Casascius collectors, the photos in the Encyclopedia are not high resolution. I stay away from eBay never bought a collectible there. @Kialara says he will auction two Ruby Labyrinths on eBay though that should be fun to follow.

The photos are a joke for the Cas 2011’s.  That book needs some TLC if they are made again.
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Thanks for posting this, krog!

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Wow nice spot fellas, it was only a matter of time.  Has anyone contacted the seller?

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April 04, 2018, 09:20:11 PM
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Wow nice spot fellas, it was only a matter of time.  Has anyone contacted the seller?

Yes I did, I asked him where he bought this from. Also told him it was a good forgery of the real one.

He has yet to respond...but then again I sent him the message this morning

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April 04, 2018, 09:22:02 PM
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What left and right? I just see one picture of the front at that auction. Just trying to see what you see.

2011 Cas Coins are not that well minted, which is the biggest spot IMO.  Lines are too thick as well. That’s just two things

I can vouch for this, the pendant technique has improved since then.

does this look budgetable to you?
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April 04, 2018, 10:34:03 PM
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I imagine trusted owners of legitimate Casascius coins directly purchased from Mike could be greatly rewarded someday by collectors.

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April 04, 2018, 10:41:52 PM
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I imagine trusted owners of legitimate Casascius coins directly purchased from Mike could be greatly rewarded someday by collectors.

I get what you're saying but this isn't possible for blanks/peeled coins like the one referenced in the OP.

No ad here, just an address: 1DiGicoiNTzaZDGiEtbRzxYsMg1PZ9F47s
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directly purchased from Mike

has this happened?

does this look budgetable to you?
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April 04, 2018, 11:34:21 PM
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I imagine trusted owners of legitimate Casascius coins directly purchased from Mike could be greatly rewarded someday by collectors.

Well unless they get that ANACS guarantee, then you will for sure know they’re real  Grin
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April 04, 2018, 11:34:45 PM
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I imagine trusted owners of legitimate Casascius coins directly purchased from Mike could be greatly rewarded someday by collectors.

I get what you're saying but this isn't possible for blanks/peeled coins like the one referenced in the OP.

I’m sure fake holograms are out there.  I’ve been a bit surprised we haven’t seen fake loaded rounds in circulation yet.  Certainly it is only a matter of time.


Well unless they get that ANACS guarantee, then you will for sure know they’re real  Grin

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I’m sure fake holograms are out there.  I’ve been a bit surprised we haven’t seen fake loaded rounds in circulation yet.  Certainly it is only a matter of time.

  Considering the price these coins demand, I too am surprised none have been made.

  It will be up to people like us to spot them out and make everyone else aware of it.

  So our coon eyes have to be extra vigilant from now on.

  My question is this. How do we notify people on ebay of fakes?

  Is there a way this can be done?

  The person selling this coin has not responded to my inquiry and this is just the beginning as the auction is still going on and bids are increasing by the day!

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