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April 05, 2018, 11:17:43 AM
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https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F173229328915

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April 05, 2018, 11:26:41 AM
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Its the real deal Ty!

Just also noticed this


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The last 1 in 2011 in the genuine CAS is THICKER than the fake and also thicker than the first 1.
So in a real cas the 11 are of different thickness and not identical in any way

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April 05, 2018, 11:29:23 AM
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 My question is this. How do we notify people on ebay of fakes?

  Is there a way this can be done?

There's no good way, just have to get it delisted. Instructions for reporting counterfeit items to ebay can be found here: https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/prohibited-restricted-items/fake-items-policy?id=4276, and there's a "Report Item" link on the listing page. The FBI investigates counterfeit goods, so they might be interested. The number to their office in Portland is (503) 224-4181.
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April 05, 2018, 11:31:02 AM
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 My question is this. How do we notify people on ebay of fakes?

  Is there a way this can be done?

There's no good way, just have to get it delisted. Instructions for reporting counterfeit items to ebay can be found here: https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/prohibited-restricted-items/fake-items-policy?id=4276, and there's a "Report Item" link on the listing page. The FBI investigates counterfeit goods, so they might be interested. The number to their office in Portland is (503) 224-4181.

Thankyou sir..will follow up with this

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April 05, 2018, 12:51:24 PM
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The lines don’t fully match uo. Could easily be small minting issue. (Per my prev post). Been playing picture hunt a lot lately aren’t we lol

I reported the auction as fraudulent and sent seller a nasty gram. If it sells..we can contact buyer
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April 05, 2018, 01:00:46 PM
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The lines don’t fully match uo. Could easily be small minting issue. (Per my prev post). Been playing picture hunt a lot lately aren’t we lol

I reported the auction as fraudulent and sent seller a nasty gram. If it sells..we can contact buyer

Cool and thankyou. You beat me to it!  Wink


Your right there is a missing line, could be a strike error too.

That fat 1 at the end is a dead giveaway its a genuine Cas.

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April 05, 2018, 02:46:40 PM
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https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F202279178717

Either seller ended it or eBay did
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April 05, 2018, 02:50:23 PM
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Good to hear that!

Most likely your reporting did him in. Now we have to stay vigilant for any new fakes popping up, which I am sure they will

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April 06, 2018, 11:59:09 AM
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It looks that they sodl the same type of coin in the past too...but listed it differently

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Bitcoin-Gold-Plated-Physical-Bitcoin/302622851700?hash=item4675ba4274:g:TeQAAOSwoPpaX8lq

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April 06, 2018, 12:37:50 PM
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Have to rely on you Casascius collectors, the photos in the Encyclopedia are not high resolution. I stay away from eBay never bought a collectible there. @Kialara says he will auction two Ruby Labyrinths on eBay though that should be fun to follow.

I bought a few silvers there graded which eliminates fakes plus you can get scammed anywhere,  knowing and or seeing your sellers past reputation helps too.  I was wondering when these cas fakes might start showing up, happens in every market. Morgan Dollars and China Kwangtung silver Dragon dollar have been the ones I dealt with mostly as fakes. You get where you can tell a fake in a sec after a while.. just a different look along with less detail. 
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It looks that they sodl the same type of coin in the past too...but listed it differently

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Bitcoin-Gold-Plated-Physical-Bitcoin/302622851700?hash=item4675ba4274:g:TeQAAOSwoPpaX8lq

keep an eye on this guys followers too
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Have to rely on you Casascius collectors, the photos in the Encyclopedia are not high resolution. I stay away from eBay never bought a collectible there. @Kialara says he will auction two Ruby Labyrinths on eBay though that should be fun to follow.

I bought a few silvers there graded which eliminates fakes plus you can get scammed anywhere,  knowing and or seeing your sellers past reputation helps too.  I was wondering when these cas fakes might start showing up, happens in every market. Morgan Dollars and China Kwangtung silver Dragon dollar have been the ones I dealt with mostly as fakes. You get where you can tell a fake in a sec after a while.. just a different look along with less detail. 

My money says if you sent this fake to ANACS it’d get graded.
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April 06, 2018, 01:41:24 PM
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Have to rely on you Casascius collectors, the photos in the Encyclopedia are not high resolution. I stay away from eBay never bought a collectible there. @Kialara says he will auction two Ruby Labyrinths on eBay though that should be fun to follow.

I bought a few silvers there graded which eliminates fakes plus you can get scammed anywhere,  knowing and or seeing your sellers past reputation helps too.  I was wondering when these cas fakes might start showing up, happens in every market. Morgan Dollars and China Kwangtung silver Dragon dollar have been the ones I dealt with mostly as fakes. You get where you can tell a fake in a sec after a while.. just a different look along with less detail. 

My money says if you sent this fake to ANACS it’d get graded.


LOL you are probably right! Those fools will grade anything as long as they get paid!  Cheesy

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April 06, 2018, 02:25:38 PM
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Have to rely on you Casascius collectors, the photos in the Encyclopedia are not high resolution. I stay away from eBay never bought a collectible there. @Kialara says he will auction two Ruby Labyrinths on eBay though that should be fun to follow.

I bought a few silvers there graded which eliminates fakes plus you can get scammed anywhere,  knowing and or seeing your sellers past reputation helps too.  I was wondering when these cas fakes might start showing up, happens in every market. Morgan Dollars and China Kwangtung silver Dragon dollar have been the ones I dealt with mostly as fakes. You get where you can tell a fake in a sec after a while.. just a different look along with less detail. 

My money says if you sent this fake to ANACS it’d get graded.

lol, that would completely destroy their reputation though. If you can fool a so called expert then your not an expert

I use to keep a 10x to 16x loop with me for years to look a coins just in case.  I would think those graders do the same but I dunno   
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April 06, 2018, 02:29:17 PM
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Have to rely on you Casascius collectors, the photos in the Encyclopedia are not high resolution. I stay away from eBay never bought a collectible there. @Kialara says he will auction two Ruby Labyrinths on eBay though that should be fun to follow.

I bought a few silvers there graded which eliminates fakes plus you can get scammed anywhere,  knowing and or seeing your sellers past reputation helps too.  I was wondering when these cas fakes might start showing up, happens in every market. Morgan Dollars and China Kwangtung silver Dragon dollar have been the ones I dealt with mostly as fakes. You get where you can tell a fake in a sec after a while.. just a different look along with less detail.  

My money says if you sent this fake to ANACS it’d get graded.

lol, that would completely destroy their reputation though. If you can fool a so called expert then your not an expert

I use to keep a 10x to 16x loop with me for years to look a coins just in case.  I would think those graders do the same but I dunno  

That’s exactly why we all hate them. We get how pathetic they are. They graded a fake Sol which is simple to spot.

Edit- not to mention no real coin collectors taken them seriously right now. They are surviving the same way Spirit Airlines are.  No one likes Spirit but they’re still in business
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Have to rely on you Casascius collectors, the photos in the Encyclopedia are not high resolution. I stay away from eBay never bought a collectible there. @Kialara says he will auction two Ruby Labyrinths on eBay though that should be fun to follow.

I bought a few silvers there graded which eliminates fakes plus you can get scammed anywhere,  knowing and or seeing your sellers past reputation helps too.  I was wondering when these cas fakes might start showing up, happens in every market. Morgan Dollars and China Kwangtung silver Dragon dollar have been the ones I dealt with mostly as fakes. You get where you can tell a fake in a sec after a while.. just a different look along with less detail. 

My money says if you sent this fake to ANACS it’d get graded.

lol, that would completely destroy their reputation though. If you can fool a so called expert then your not an expert

I use to keep a 10x to 16x loop with me for years to look a coins just in case.  I would think those graders do the same but I dunno   

That’s exactly why we all hate them. We get how pathetic they are. They graded a fake Sol which is simple to spot.

Edit- not to mention no real coin collectors taken them seriously right now. They are surviving the same way Spirit Airlines are.  No one likes Spirit but they’re still in business

yep wow Im an NGC PCGS buyer most my life...   I thought Spirit was gone lol...  I miss seeing TWA thought they were cool, love the old posters they are very collectible now, the NY poster goes for over $2k now the Orient $500 to $700

and thanks for posting this too Krogothmanhattan    <-----  I miss spelled that about four time lol  OMG make it five
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ANACS does not authenticate crypto coins.  They only evaluate the condition and wear.
 
I think if someone was going to try and scam a loaded one, they would be buying up peeled coins and using those.
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April 06, 2018, 08:16:36 PM
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the similarity is surprising

need to be very careful while buying brass casascius or  any other loaded/high value coin

Though the picture of fake cas is kind of blurry, did you find it somewhere or clicked yourself?
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the similarity is surprising

need to be very careful while buying brass casascius or  any other loaded/high value coin

Though the picture of fake cas is kind of blurry, did you find it somewhere or clicked yourself?

Yes the fake is surprisingly well done.

 Its the photo the used to sell it on Ebay.

 So thats the best pic I have of it Sky

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April 06, 2018, 08:33:09 PM
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ANACS does not authenticate crypto coins.  They only evaluate the condition and wear.
  
I think if someone was going to try and scam a loaded one, they would be buying up peeled coins and using those.

They’ll even do it for a poker chip! How do you grade a clay chip?! My point is more so to prove how little weight they hold in the numismatics world or for their own good name.

China can fake anything and everything for nothing and do it well. Real Cas coins are too expensive spent or not.
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