BEWARE of FAKE CASASCIUS COINS

[wheelz1200]

IMHO I'd argue there's less than 100-150 people on this planet who can identify a Casascius "tribute" from the real deal with ease.

The one with the hologram has a hologram that in no way resembles a real one. The others have engraving on the back instead of a hologram. That's two seconds of googling. I've never seen one of these attempting to pass itself off as a real one. They quite often have Casascius in the ad titles, but they also have 'souvenir' or 'commemorative' and they never cost more than $5-10.

One day one of them will. Not yet.

I have seen multiple fakes sold, and for much more than $5-10.  So have other experts here.  Mike Caldwell didn't make every coin the same, nor did he do so with his holograms (also that hologram absolutely resembles a Casascius).  Casascius.com is not a good resource for this info, nor is it a simple task for newbies to figure out everything Mike made over the years in a few seconds.  Mike also didn't load all of his coins.  He released a good amount of DIY coins, and not just the cheap aluminum ones, that didn't come with holograms.  These coins sell for good money even without being loaded/having a hologram. You seem to be missing that point.  Again, this is in large part for the newbies.

  I have seen ebay sellers place a photo of a real Casascius coin and when they ship they send a fake Casascius. It happened to me last year. If not for the trained eye, newbies can easily get fooled.
 
  What is posted on this thread is to help any collector of what is out there. Be they good forgeries or bad, the more we post on what is out there, the stronger we are in educating everyone who visits this thread.

  I thankyou both for your inputs, it helps seeing it from both sides of the fence so top speak.

Dam that's a sheisty move.  I am going to assume ebay gave you your money back?  Bait and switch 

  I messaged the guy and basically told him he pulled a bait and switch. Once he gave me my money plus shipping expenses i sent item to him in canada..i reported him to ebay. I was told he was a member on this forum too. Scum

Who is it?  Have they been properly negged?  Last thing we need is fakes in the wild. 

[krogothmanhattan]

Aye...i am sure i did..gotta find the name again.

[Gatorelf]

That background pattern is difficult for them currently I've always looked for that first.  Scammers into everything now days

[wheelz1200]

That background pattern is difficult for them currently I've always looked for that first.  Scammers into everything now days

As the amount of value increases so does the amount of people out there looking to rip these off.  Always need to stay vigilant regardless  as with any collectable

[rbdrbd]

Hey guys, been in the crypto scene since 2013, but I am a first time prospective Casascius owner. Looking to get my first error coin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5127692.0

It SEEMS legit, but I had some concerns about the textured background and the N in Vires In Numeris (I can't really tell from the pictures).

The seller is a newbie too. Any (other) red flags?

[anonymousminer]

Hey guys, been in the crypto scene since 2013, but I am a first time prospective Casascius owner. Looking to get my first error coin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5127692.0

It SEEMS legit, but I had some concerns about the textured background and the N in Vires In Numeris (I can't really tell from the pictures).

The seller is a newbie too. Any (other) red flags?

Just use escrow.

edit:  and verify. 

[gentlemand]

Hey guys, been in the crypto scene since 2013, but I am a first time prospective Casascius owner. Looking to get my first error coin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5127692.0

It SEEMS legit, but I had some concerns about the textured background and the N in Vires In Numeris (I can't really tell from the pictures).

The seller is a newbie too. Any (other) red flags?

It would be nice to have an angled shot of the front as usually the text on the knock offs sticks out a lot more. The N and the U look a bit melded and the texture is not quite right either but it looks like a seriously worn out coin which might account for that.

You should ask for photos with better light and from other angles.

[rbdrbd]

Hey guys, been in the crypto scene since 2013, but I am a first time prospective Casascius owner. Looking to get my first error coin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5127692.0

It SEEMS legit, but I had some concerns about the textured background and the N in Vires In Numeris (I can't really tell from the pictures).

The seller is a newbie too. Any (other) red flags?

It would be nice to have an angled shot of the front as usually the text on the knock offs sticks out a lot more. The N and the U look a bit melded and the texture is not quite right either but it looks like a seriously worn out coin which might account for that.

You should ask for photos with better light and from other angles.

minerjones has verified that it looks legit. I will see if I can get some higher definition images though first.

[Lesbian Cow]

Hey guys, been in the crypto scene since 2013, but I am a first time prospective Casascius owner. Looking to get my first error coin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5127692.0

It SEEMS legit, but I had some concerns about the textured background and the N in Vires In Numeris (I can't really tell from the pictures).

The seller is a newbie too. Any (other) red flags?

It would be nice to have an angled shot of the front as usually the text on the knock offs sticks out a lot more. The N and the U look a bit melded and the texture is not quite right either but it looks like a seriously worn out coin which might account for that.

You should ask for photos with better light and from other angles.

minerjones has verified that it looks legit. I will see if I can get some higher definition images though first.

For what it's worth it looks real to me but has some wear/circulation damage.  I agree with gentelmand some angled photos of the obverse would be helpful.

[krogoth]

I would consider this "maker" to be added to the list....
Making replica Casascius Bitcoin Coins w/ a new date is the same as the "2016" Sol Noctis fakes... lol

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bitcoin/283712961133

[krogothmanhattan]

I would consider this "maker" to be added to the list....
Making replica Casascius Bitcoin Coins w/ a new date is the same as the "2016" Sol Noctis fakes... lol

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bitcoin/283712961133

[gentlemand]

So 20 bucks worth of silver and no actual photos. That's a deal right there.

I still don't class this as a fake myself. It's a replica/rip off. It's not attempting to be a full on counterfeit/deception.

[gentlemand]

This was done to the Sol Noctis coins in 2016...  there were "replicas" made with a different date than the original coin.
I would still consider these "fakes"  and yes.. the intention is to deceive people... why else would you make them?

It's a con. It's not a dedicated counterfeit which is what people should be most vigilant about. As soon as one of those pops up and it's good enough that's going to have a major effect on the viability of real ones.

Stuff like this is sad and annoying but it can be shrugged off.

[ChiBitCTy]

Another

[ChiBitCTy]

Was on the fence with this one, but MinerJones suggested I place it here..

[ChiBitCTy]

Not great "fakes" but still noteworthy







Incorrectly stated here by the self proclaimed physical bitcoin experts.

https://coinfirm.org/product/s2-1-btc-2013



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=465242.0

[ChiBitCTy]

Casascius Coin Sales -Website Scam

Obviously these prices don't even come close to recovering alt redemption's.

https://www.goldxcash.net/buycasasciusbitcoins.htm


Bitcointalk Marketing thread, locked w/out any replies https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227734.0

Scam accusation threads (many more can be found on google)
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1199197.0
- https://forum.bitcoin.com/services/goldxcash-net-sell-buy-exchange-bitcoin-to-paypal-skrill-neteller-etc-t87926.html
- https://cryptoscamalert.com/report/47-
- https://reportscam.com/goldxcashnet

[krogothmanhattan]

Article mentioning this thread.

https://www.altcoinbuzz.io/bitcoin-and-crypto-guide/what-is-the-casascius-physical-bitcoin-exploring-an-important-part-of-bitcoins-history/


Thanks ChibitCty for making me aware of it.

[ChiBitCTy]

Article mentioning this thread.

https://www.altcoinbuzz.io/bitcoin-and-crypto-guide/what-is-the-casascius-physical-bitcoin-exploring-an-important-part-of-bitcoins-history/


Thanks ChibitCty for making me aware of it.

NP!


Sidenote-

Since Uberbills took down the link to this page on their site, I emailed Mike suggesting putting this thread on Casascius.com. Even if Uberbills puts it back up, I hope that Mike still places it on his page.  With roughly 300 million dollars worth of bitcoin left on Casascius coins atm..doing so could really save some people from some serious financial losses.  We've got two types of fake holograms and plenty of decent fakes listed here alone..and there's plenty more out there we haven't found..like the well made 25BTC Coin Mike found on ebay ( https://casascius.wordpress.com/2014/02/05/beware-of-fakes-on-ebay/ ).

If anyone reading this knows Mike ( assuming he doesn't see it first ) if you wouldn't mind sending this suggestion his way it'd be appreciated.

[realsteelboy]

Great thread, thanks for compiling this info. Will be following