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April 04, 2018, 06:00:49 PM
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if you browse some of the posts  in bitcoin talk  u will notice lot of unnecessarily reply  to posts  or some people agree with the post owner   while other may just repeat  the

same existing replies   with a different style  ( some only copy past )  

and while the merit system  was created to solve that problem   he  kinda of failed  because  people still doing same posts  for an obvious reason  signature bounties

( some will say that merit was for rank  ..well  yes it is but  its kind of created a solution and problem in the rank system  )


so my main concern is why bitcoin talk forum don't have a like button ( up vote ) ?   that will solve lot of problems and reduce spam

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April 04, 2018, 06:11:54 PM
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so my main concern is why bitcoin talk forum don't have a thump up button ?  

We do, it's called "report to moderator".

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April 04, 2018, 06:31:47 PM
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We do, it's called "report to moderator".

that is kind of joke  Grin ?    how can  the  "report to moderator"  button  be more effective than the thumps up button ?

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if you browse some of the posts  in bitcoin talk  u will notice lot of unnecessarily reply  to posts  or some people agree with the post owner   while other may just repeat  the

same existing replies   with a different style  ( some only copy past )  

and while the merit system  was created to solve that problem   he  kinda of failed  because  people still doing same posts  for an obvious reason  signature bounties

( some will say that merit was for rank  ..well  yes it is but  its kind of created a solution and problem in the rank system  )


so my main concern is why bitcoin talk forum don't have a thump up button ?   that will solve lot of problems and reduce spam

If you find any scam and spamming with the usage of merits. One thing all the people missed while they are opening the thread, they just missed to use the search bar above in the forum
Before anyone want to create a thread in any section for asking their question. Better they may try it to avoid that creating thread and spamming replies below to that. If newbies asks there we must need to help them. instead divert them to use the right thing.
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April 04, 2018, 06:39:35 PM
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same existing replies   with a different style  ( some only copy past )  
The only one solution to this has a limit in replies in every thread to avoid same thought and limit on pages(15-20 pages I guess)
OP may lock the thread if they meet the limit on replies.

and while the merit system  was created to solve that problem   he  kinda of failed  because  people still doing same posts  for an obvious reason  signature bounties
No, I think there is an improvement in the forum since the merit system was implemented by sir theymos, everyone was trying themselves to have a quality post and hoping that every post count they have they earn merit as well.

What do you mean by spam? if they have the same thought with the OP's post still it is counted. That does not matter how long or short that you have posted as long as relevant to the topic and sharing idea.




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April 04, 2018, 06:40:24 PM
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that is kind of joke  Grin ?    how can  the  "report to moderator"  button  be more effective than the thumps up button ?

Why is it a joke? 'thump' means to strike or punch. Striking a post means hitting it, or reporting it to a moderator.

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April 04, 2018, 06:48:17 PM
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The only advantage of a 'thumbs up' button would be if members used it instead of posting "+1" or "me too" or "I like that", or any of the other approbations that clutter the threads.

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April 04, 2018, 06:57:28 PM
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u can not disagree on that  Wink

lets say we have +50 page of comments  in a topic that have good concept    im sure reading all the posts is waste of time but if we have a thumps up button i can just bye pass to see topic with  a thumps up  that users before me read them and liked them 

u know that thump up is well known in the social media  where people exchange idea and info .....etc

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April 04, 2018, 07:03:57 PM
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so my main concern is why bitcoin talk forum don't have a thump up button ?   that will solve lot of problems and reduce spam

What are "thumps"? Is this some hipster British slang? And what's supposed to happen if I press a button to up a thump?

Or are you talking about the "thumbs up" / up vote feature we see on Reddit, so that only the most community-voted posts are seen at the top of the thread? That's a solid idea to complement the merit system because the threads shown on the first page are more likely to be read and thus more likely to get considered for a merit point.

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It's nt British - Thump definition from the Oxford dictionary
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April 04, 2018, 07:28:24 PM
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since we are missing the main question   i edited the topic  thump up  is equal to  like   or  up vote

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Or are you talking about the "thumbs up" / up vote feature we see on Reddit, so that only the most community-voted posts are seen at the top of the thread? That's a solid idea to complement the merit system because the threads shown on the first page are more likely to be read and thus more likely to get considered for a merit point.

i agree with you  that will make it easy for moderators or smerit source  to spot good posts with good contents  and if someone think he is smart and up vote a mediocre

post or a shitty one  that will simply do the opposite effect and can cuz him to get a  - 1  


ps :  instead of this comment i could just  gave you an upvote     Wink

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if you browse some of the posts  in bitcoin talk  u will notice lot of unnecessarily reply  to posts  or some people agree with the post owner   while other may just repeat  the

same existing replies   with a different style  ( some only copy past )  

and while the merit system  was created to solve that problem   he  kinda of failed  because  people still doing same posts  for an obvious reason  signature bounties

( some will say that merit was for rank  ..well  yes it is but  its kind of created a solution and problem in the rank system  )


so my main concern is why bitcoin talk forum don't have a like button ( up vote ) ?   that will solve lot of problems and reduce spam

First "thumbs up", and now " like" button. What's the next button you seggest?  Grin
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First "thumbs up", and now " like" button. What's the next button you seggest?  Grin


since we are missing the main question   i edited the topic  thump up  is equal to  like   or  up vote


lol  since people started to argue on what is a thumps up  i thought to replace it with another familiar name  which is " like" or up vote   so people  may discuss the idea

and  i have to say that  this guy  pointed to a good utility of an up vote  button  Grin



Or are you talking about the "thumbs up" / up vote feature we see on Reddit, so that only the most community-voted posts are seen at the top of the thread? That's a solid idea to complement the merit system because the threads shown on the first page are more likely to be read and thus more likely to get considered for a merit point.

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I honestly don't think you give a shit about spam, I'm fairly sure you are a spammer yourself and this post just like all the other thousands is nothing but a silly attempt to receive merits. Why do people care so much about spam and not about scams?




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I honestly don't think you give a shit about spam, I'm fairly sure you are a spammer yourself and this post just like all the other thousands is nothing but a silly attempt to receive merits. Why do people care so much about spam and not about scams?

If you are not going to invest money, you can ignore the scams and attempted scams around you.
Spam is in your face everyday. You just cannot avoid it.
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If you are not going to invest money, you can ignore the scams and attempted scams around you.
Spam is in your face everyday. You just cannot avoid it.
Exactly.  And I'd say that people around here certainly do care about the scamming problem, which is why DT members tag suspected scammers and the reason we have the trust system in the first place.  The spamming/shitposting problem, though, is far more pervasive.  It's everywhere.  Theymos would never have put the merit system into place if even he didn't see how bad it's gotten or care about the quality of discussion here.

OP is not helping anything, though.  He's part of the problem, IMO.  His posts are as bad as any I've seen, but I've learned that shitposters generally tend to think they're doing a fantastic job writing what they write.  They're completely blind to their own faults and to the truth, which is that no one reads stuff that looks like it was churned out by your below-average five year old child.  Those posts aren't going to be read at all, much less merited.  The only thing they will earn is a click of the "report to moderator" button, which Jet Cash has appropriately recommended.

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April 04, 2018, 09:29:28 PM
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I honestly don't think you give a shit about spam, I'm fairly sure you are a spammer yourself and this post just like all the other thousands is nothing but a silly attempt to receive merits. Why do people care so much about spam and not about scams?

sorry if i disappointed you  but what was you expecting from a shitty jr member ? 
u dont  give a shit about what i posted  just am a spammer !!! 

well  its a public forum and everyone have the right to post his idea  since  no rules are broken
 

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so my main concern is why bitcoin talk forum don't have a like button ( up vote ) ?    that will solve lot of problems and reduce spam

And be like the other shitty forums around the internet where people keep on begging for likes, up votes, reps, etc? No thanks. It's quite different here but things are improving and in a different manner. I don't want to see the forum spammed with,

"If this helped you, don't forget to like or +rep"
"+rep to view this thread"
"don't be a freeloader like or +rep"

and all those other bs other forums have.

Another thing about other forums I've been on, they have a minimum post or worse reps or likes to be able to post in particular sections of the forum. Where's the freedom in that? Here, you can post anywhere you like even if you just created your account without restrictions aside from some time restriction that won't allow a new account to post or PM successively.
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yep  u made a good point  
but  the merit system is also getting abused  
people are  begging  for merit ( directly or indirectly )  like in other forum ppl are asking for up votes  and likes

that mean its the way ppl use those system  that define if it will be a bless or just another pain in the ass

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yep  u made a good point 
but  the merit system is also getting abused 
people are  begging  for merit ( directly or indirectly )  like in other forum ppl are asking for up votes  and likes

that mean its the way ppl use those system  that define if it will be a bless or just another pain in the ass

True, but unlike in other forums the direct or indirect asking for up votes, likes and +reps are tolerated and is not frowned up. In our case here on the forum, there are DT members that can place a tag on you for doing so. Effectively ruining your account even if you have shit tons of merit. If you have a red trust rating with a billion merit, it will not matter since you were already tagged as someone who openly begs for merit.

That is not the case in other forums. You can beg as much as you want for votes, likes and +reps but no one will take action against you unless it would be from the mods or admins. In this forum, the community itself can do it even without the intervention of the mods and admins.
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yep  u made a good point 
but  the merit system is also getting abused 
people are  begging  for merit ( directly or indirectly )  like in other forum ppl are asking for up votes  and likes

that mean its the way ppl use those system  that define if it will be a bless or just another pain in the ass

True, but unlike in other forums the direct or indirect asking for up votes, likes and +reps are tolerated and is not frowned up. In our case here on the forum, there are DT members that can place a tag on you for doing so. Effectively ruining your account even if you have shit tons of merit. If you have a red trust rating with a billion merit, it will not matter since you were already tagged as someone who openly begs for merit.

That is not the case in other forums. You can beg as much as you want for votes, likes and +reps but no one will take action against you unless it would be from the mods or admins. In this forum, the community itself can do it even without the intervention of the mods and admins.

Well  but  u are here  talking about the people that miss used the up vote system   not about the benefit  of  that system 

We can simply add the up vote  so he make it easy  to ppl to see good posts that  have chance to get merits   

And those who miss use it and beg for up votes will get the same treatment as  merits  beggars

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that is kind of joke  Grin ?    how can  the  "report to moderator"  button  be more effective than the thumps up button ?

Why is it a joke? 'thump' means to strike or punch. Striking a post means hitting it, or reporting it to a moderator.

He wanted to say "thumbs up" like a like.

It's nt British - Thump definition from the Oxford dictionary
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https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/thump


He wrote "why bitcoin talk forum don't have a like button ( up vote ) ?", that's probably a typo. Grin
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if you browse some of the posts  in bitcoin talk  u will notice lot of unnecessarily reply  to posts  or some people agree with the post owner   while other may just repeat  the

same existing replies   with a different style  ( some only copy past )  

and while the merit system  was created to solve that problem   he  kinda of failed  because  people still doing same posts  for an obvious reason  signature bounties

( some will say that merit was for rank  ..well  yes it is but  its kind of created a solution and problem in the rank system  )


so my main concern is why bitcoin talk forum don't have a like button ( up vote ) ?   that will solve lot of problems and reduce spam

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Dear Jr. Member. You had to have to understand to offer with such a rank ideas as you and I have a useless! And for the future all who wants to write the idea lower than (Hero) don't waste time on it! All ideas will either be condemned or not heard! So spend your time studying other problems! On studying Economics in crypto world, read news .. In General learn! And leave the forum to adults how to regulate it. You must understand new ideas can come up the moderators admins they are not stupid people and understand it more
dear friend  i hope you dont make what you say a general rule  being a newbie or jr member does not mean they are noobs  that only mean that they joined the forum just now !

bitcoin ≠ bitcoin talk forum 

and  for you saying  that only hero and above should post idea to improve the forum  i would like to reply  that  perhaps its true  but if we dont  make a post or a reply we the newbie and jr members complaining about something  they may never know that there is a problem 

and one more thing that should make us participate in the bitcoin talk community  is  that the forum is for everyone  for all the ranks    so feel free to post and share your thought  if it not against the rules

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April 06, 2018, 02:37:54 PM
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Agree! they are different ones. however, the bitcointalk forum was designed for bitcoin discussion at its beginning before expanding to altcoin-related discussions and issues.
bitcoin ≠ bitcoin talk forum 
Agree, too. The guy shows wrong point. Everyone in the forum are treated equally and have the same rights to discuss, contribute to the forum discussions and developments.
and  for you saying  that only hero and above should post idea to improve the forum  i would like to reply  that  perhaps its true  but if we dont  make a post or a reply we the newbie and jr members complaining about something  they may never know that there is a problem 

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April 06, 2018, 02:47:28 PM
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Best solution was your title and you are asking again for a proposal how to solve it?
I though your post was a solution seeking for approval only to see it's a line little above spam.

You should make up with a good statement before putting a thread, I do love to put thumb up here...
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April 06, 2018, 06:31:50 PM
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Best solution was your title and you are asking again for a proposal how to solve it?
I though your post was a solution seeking for approval only to see it's a line little above spam.

You should make up with a good statement before putting a thread, I do love to put thumb up here...

  yes my point of view for reducing the spam is an up vote button ( with some explanation in the previous posts )    but again i wanted to make it an open discussion

where lot of ppl give there opinions about what i propose and also give other solution     

we  all have different  point of views  thus i encourage you to join the discussion and share with us your idea on how we can reduce the spam   Cheesy

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