Scams vs Spam

[achow101]

Well then someone is obviously doing something wrong, forum rules are the problem then. If people really want to get rid of spam it would be quite easy, delete signature campaigns or enforce some rules for signature campaign managers and owners, quite easy really and when one of those 2 options is enabled, moderators will be able to focus more on scam issues.

What makes you think that scams will be moderated if spam isn't a problem? As I said before, it is not the moderators' job to moderate scams, and it likely won't be, regardless of the situation with spam.

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[LoyceV]

Well then someone is obviously doing something wrong, forum rules are the problem then. If people really want to get rid of spam it would be quite easy, delete signature campaigns or enforce some rules for signature campaign managers and owners, quite easy really and when one of those 2 options is enabled, moderators will be able to focus more on scam issues. There is no need for 100 merit related posts and yet I don't see mods getting rid of them.

It's an illusion to think you can stop scammers, people will always gets scammed. It happened long before the internet, and the internet made it more anonymous. Add an irreversible payment system, and people really have to learn to be careful. As it says on all threads in Securities and Lending:

Warning: Moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Watch out for Ponzi schemes. Do not invest more than you can afford to lose.

One of the reasons scams aren't moderated, is so users don't let their guard down. At least now we all know this forum is filled with scammers.

[Theb]

It seems to me that most of the posts here are bout merits and spam/shitposting. There are a few posts about scams but most are about merits and spam and I'm not saying it's ok to have spam but isn't more important to stop scams? Has anyone seen all the articles about how many scams happen in the cryptocurrency world? Like this: https://news.bitcoin.com/9-million-day-lost-cryptocurrency-scams/

It is because you are looking in the wrong section Bardman. This "Meta" section is a discussion about inside the Bitcointalk Forum and right now the most controversial thing to talk about is Merits and Spam/Shit post here in the forum. Scams have a proper section under "Trading Discussion" as a Child Board this is where you can see  scam accusations against a website, user, or both. There is even a section for their reputation so you can freely talk about it there.

Once the scam is proven a lot of DT members are willing to give a red tag in order for other newbie members or potential targets to see that this users have a negative trust. Having a negative trust really affects your whole reputation here in the forum.

[Bardman]

It seems to me that most of the posts here are bout merits and spam/shitposting. There are a few posts about scams but most are about merits and spam and I'm not saying it's ok to have spam but isn't more important to stop scams? Has anyone seen all the articles about how many scams happen in the cryptocurrency world? Like this: https://news.bitcoin.com/9-million-day-lost-cryptocurrency-scams/

It is because you are looking in the wrong section Bardman. This "Meta" section is a discussion about inside the Bitcointalk Forum and right now the most controversial thing to talk about is Merits and Spam/Shit post here in the forum. Scams have a proper section under "Trading Discussion" as a Child Board this is where you can see  scam accusations against a website, user, or both. There is even a section for their reputation so you can freely talk about it there.

Once the scam is proven a lot of DT members are willing to give a red tag in order for other newbie members or potential targets to see that this users have a negative trust. Having a negative trust really affects your whole reputation here in the forum.

But why not ban those accounts as well, there are plenty of accounts with like -500 trust, clearly they did or tried to scam, what's the point of allowing them to continue posting on the forum? In fact some signature or bounty campaigns allow people with negative trust to join.

[LoyceV]

But why not ban those accounts as well, there are plenty of accounts with like -500 trust, clearly they did or tried to scam, what's the point of allowing them to continue posting on the forum? In fact some signature or bounty campaigns allow people with negative trust to join.

Achow101 answered that already:

Scams are not moderated

The reasoning behind this is to prevent moderator abuse and not to create a fake sense of security.

The work load for moderators is already too high to stop the spam, adding scams to the list will only overload them more.