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June 08, 2018, 04:29:11 AM
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I have been day trading Bitcoin for a few months now. Overall I'm pretty much making nothing and losing nothing. It seems to me that there is no logic at all to the market. No matter how much research you do, how much you look at the technical's and how much you try to hedge you absolutely can't predict the massive dumps that happen every day. They appear out of nowhere at random times and drop the market by $200 - $300 at a time.

This smacks of huge manipulation of the market. They are making it impossible to trade with bitcoin in any way other than a pure gamble. Anyone else noticing this?
Do day trading is more to a logic and does not require proper analysis because it is easy to read when we have earned profit margin then we have to make decisions quickly.

Market manipulation will always exist, the dumping and pumping process undertaken by a group of people is characteristic of all aspects of cryptocurrencies. This is the rationale that is also used by the government, the price manipulation that often happens can make the situation is not conducive and unstable. But again that this is a market characteristic and we can also use it well.

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June 13, 2018, 09:18:33 AM
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maybe you are less fortunate in trading, so be smart to read the news and keep learning to monitor market prices.

because the real trader is always looking for loopholes for success and to his advantage even though the market is red.
Yeah you are right. Future is not clear and most of the predictions become false. That’s why I never believe in predictions 01. I always search the market b myself and technical analysis no doubt gives great help to trade effectively and make some money. Manipulation is a bad thing in crypto world because low investors lose their money due to whales manipulations.
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June 19, 2018, 11:25:21 PM
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I have been day trading Bitcoin for a few months now. Overall I'm pretty much making nothing and losing nothing. It seems to me that there is no logic at all to the market. No matter how much research you do, how much you look at the technical's and how much you try to hedge you absolutely can't predict the massive dumps that happen every day. They appear out of nowhere at random times and drop the market by $200 - $300 at a time.

This smacks of huge manipulation of the market. They are making it impossible to trade with bitcoin in any way other than a pure gamble. Anyone else noticing this?
Trading on a daily basis is the best option at the present time, you can see that bitcoin prices are constantly fluctuating and falling sharply during the past 6 months. The market is in a downtrend so short-term trading will minimize your risk, so ending the day, bitcoin prices will probably continue to fall further if the $ 6,000 mark is drilled and I'm really worried about that happening.

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August 02, 2018, 04:14:16 AM
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Day trading for noob is just like gambling because of high level of volatility, you can't always make profit with day trading even if you are expert in market.

That's exactly what you talked about, because I experienced it by buying TRON coins.

I bought TRON at the price of 800 satoshi and the end dropped drastically to 4080 satoshi.
wrong I also did not stoploss at 750 satoshi, that's my carelessness!
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August 02, 2018, 04:18:02 AM
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I have been day trading Bitcoin for a few months now. Overall I'm pretty much making nothing and losing nothing. It seems to me that there is no logic at all to the market. No matter how much research you do, how much you look at the technical's and how much you try to hedge you absolutely can't predict the massive dumps that happen every day. They appear out of nowhere at random times and drop the market by $200 - $300 at a time.

This smacks of huge manipulation of the market. They are making it impossible to trade with bitcoin in any way other than a pure gamble. Anyone else noticing this?
I believe that day trading is the best option at the moment to be profitable with the least risk. You can see that the market is fluctuating continuously and bicoin prices are constantly adjusting over time, so I believe you need to have clear trading plan, accurate analysis and always follow bitcoin pricing.
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August 02, 2018, 05:32:48 AM
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Manipulation some times is the best strategy for sustainable rise in price and a tool for discovery of true value of an asset!  Manipulation is the rule or better still the name of the game!

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August 02, 2018, 06:33:59 AM
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Are you day trading on bitcoin only or other alts ? trade on alts when market is trending
first rule in trading is market most of the time is just in a random movement means that it has no directions. every trader has winning and losing trades .
the fine line between an experienced trader and a newbie is what trades you are getting into . keep your losses and learn from it and by time you will be able to identify that line.

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August 14, 2018, 05:49:20 PM
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Day trading is the real field to losing the challenge. I think no one can escape from losing even a first-class expert can’t make the profit every day. Believe me. It is 100% true that there is no end to learning in day trading. For an example, if you make a call for any pairs which may give you profit two or three days in a row but same condition same time and same strategy can’t work for the next day. Next day you must lose. Why ? because it is the market. This market can’t be controlled by anyone in this world.
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August 14, 2018, 06:19:10 PM
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I have been day trading Bitcoin for a few months now. Overall I'm pretty much making nothing and losing nothing. It seems to me that there is no logic at all to the market. No matter how much research you do, how much you look at the technical's and how much you try to hedge you absolutely can't predict the massive dumps that happen every day. They appear out of nowhere at random times and drop the market by $200 - $300 at a time.

This smacks of huge manipulation of the market. They are making it impossible to trade with bitcoin in any way other than a pure gamble. Anyone else noticing this?

You don't know how many times I had same thoughts. That's is the same like with gambling, don't doubt in that. After some time of gambling or trading I come to same conclusion, there isn't point in all that strategies, learning, how much you follow all aspects of something in the end it's all come down to luck. One of the rules of luck is that you need to try and to try and try over and over again, just like that you have chances to get hit by luck. Strategies work for short time, technical analyses are accurate sometimes, so I always say in gambling and trading it's best to mix all that you know, to have balls to make bets and trades with more money with high risk, and you will have more profit than losse in a long run. This is not something you learn over night, you need practice and a lot of experience.


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August 14, 2018, 11:00:46 PM
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I have been day trading Bitcoin for a few months now. Overall I'm pretty much making nothing and losing nothing. It seems to me that there is no logic at all to the market. No matter how much research you do, how much you look at the technical's and how much you try to hedge you absolutely can't predict the massive dumps that happen every day. They appear out of nowhere at random times and drop the market by $200 - $300 at a time.

This smacks of huge manipulation of the market. They are making it impossible to trade with bitcoin in any way other than a pure gamble. Anyone else noticing this?
You can see that with the current market situation you should only trade short term and trade on bitcoin, the market is in a bearish long run so if you invest long term the risk will be very high .

In order to be able to successfully trade the day, you have to analyze the technique accurately, combined with market information and make a transaction plan that can reduce the risk.
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August 14, 2018, 11:17:13 PM
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I have been day trading Bitcoin for a few months now. Overall I'm pretty much making nothing and losing nothing. It seems to me that there is no logic at all to the market. No matter how much research you do, how much you look at the technical's and how much you try to hedge you absolutely can't predict the massive dumps that happen every day. They appear out of nowhere at random times and drop the market by $200 - $300 at a time.

This smacks of huge manipulation of the market. They are making it impossible to trade with bitcoin in any way other than a pure gamble. Anyone else noticing this?
The trading world is very closely related to manipulation. not only in the world of digital currency, but in the real world like investing in stocks and forex. but a very extreme level is happening in the world of digital currency. we cannot avoid that and all we have to do is follow the path. for me that when we get a big chance of profit even though it's small then we have to make a decision immediately. for me it's much better because we don't need to wait too long and we can reduce the risk of losing. all of these things depend on the decisions we make, let's make the right decisions and also be careful. we must be able to avoid and avoid the price manipulation process that can always arrive at any time surprisingly.

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August 16, 2018, 04:08:44 PM
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Day trading is great thing in order to obtained a income that helps the people to become more financially efficient and the heavy manipulation gives a balanced situation for all investors in the group.

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Heavy manipulation, yeah thats the right word and that is what happening currently. Whether its day trading or otters way of trading everything gets hampered with the crypto manipulation. There are two easy stuff, one the manipulator gets rich by this technique, whether it is day trading or other he knows that the manipulation will bring benefits for him and there is other rest of the people who are weak people and due to manipulation doesnt understand what is going on with the market and loose money and literally give it away to those big whales.


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August 16, 2018, 07:33:02 PM
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I have been day trading Bitcoin for a few months now. Overall I'm pretty much making nothing and losing nothing. It seems to me that there is no logic at all to the market. No matter how much research you do, how much you look at the technical's and how much you try to hedge you absolutely can't predict the massive dumps that happen every day. They appear out of nowhere at random times and drop the market by $200 - $300 at a time.

This smacks of huge manipulation of the market. They are making it impossible to trade with bitcoin in any way other than a pure gamble. Anyone else noticing this?

But thats the problem with new day traders in every market. Be it stock market or the crypto market, day trading requires great discipline. No matter how much you feel cheated, dont trade with these emotions. Be rational and emotionless, and you will be a wise trader.

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August 16, 2018, 07:35:01 PM
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that was on april lol what about august this month i lost everything cant believe what is happening with crypto i just keep lose and lose and yes its manipulated
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August 16, 2018, 07:47:52 PM
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Research shows that more than 80% of day traders fail in their first year. So, if this is your first year, don't feel segregated or alone in the loss. Almost all day traders suffer BIG losses when starting out, and few actually move on to start making profits. Why? Because they lack the education, experience, insight and have no risk management systems. You wouldn’t sit your grandma down at her first game of Texas Hold’em and expect her to clean up, would you?

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August 16, 2018, 07:52:20 PM
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Research shows that more than 80% of day traders fail in their first year. So, if this is your first year, don't feel segregated or alone in the loss. Almost all day traders suffer BIG losses when starting out, and few actually move on to start making profits. Why? Because they lack the education, experience, insight and have no risk management systems. You wouldn’t sit your grandma down at her first game of Texas Hold’em and expect her to clean up, would you?



I can just advice you to be among the few, that's for the courage to forge ahead. Of course, you should be aware that, you are not to trade with the kind of money you are not ready to loose.
 
Also, you need to Re-Orientate or Re-Educate yourself and also Re-strategize. Trading is a skill that must be acquired, crafted, and honed through training and education. Before making your first trades, immerse yourself in reputable sources of information and consider connecting with a mentor such as someone with a proven track record of success.
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August 16, 2018, 07:57:35 PM
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You ought to also know that no trader wins 100% of the time. In fact, many successful traders win 60% of trades. However, this is an acceptable figure. To hold on to your wins and minimize your losses, you will need to put in place systems that guarantee this by learning how to use stop loss effectively.

If the price of your chosen pair drops, your coin will be sold at a specific price to limit your loss. This reduces the risk of unnecessary losses, and guarantees your profit from a successful price movement.
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August 16, 2018, 08:02:45 PM
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Day trading is something that requires skill and patience. The massive price dump that takes place unexpectedly isn't actually price manipulation. It is just some whales deciding to cash out their profit at that moment. You are not making any profit because there is something wrong you are doing. Since your profit and loss always ends up being equal, you are probably not exiting during the right time.


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August 18, 2018, 06:46:01 PM
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Actually trading is one of the hottest ways or job that we can consider as a  stable source of income in this industry. Wherein many people choose to live with this in order to obtained income.

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