Gambling and investment - different discussion

[BillCoin]

As for the effectiveness of investing into the bankrolls of a casino, the returns aren’t going to be enormous, but as an example Lutpin has a thread that documents investing into Crypto-Games (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2445163.0). Lutpin is closely connected to Crypto-Games, but the results he shows seem legitimate, and average monthly gains combined for all currencies you can invest with on their platform comes out to about 1%. It’s a nice source of passive income, but there always is a small amount of risk when you store coins in a third-party platform.

I’ve invested into Crypto-Games in the past and my investment yielded similar results as Lutpin has posted. I’m also currently looking into investing into Fortunejack; if I do so I will post my results as well.

You can get the same result by just lending crypto to people through major exchanges( for margin trading purposes), and the risk will much lower.

I earned about 2% a month from lending my bitcoin on Poloniex and never had any problem with getting the money, also, you can know from advance what interest rate you are going to get and you have no risk of losing money(and the risk is really big , as it there is a bug flaw in the casino system is may result you to lose your whole amount of investment).

I wouldn't consider investments in Casinos or gambling website as a clever investment, not in the cryptocurrency market for sure.

[YuginKadoya]

As for the effectiveness of investing into the bankrolls of a casino, the returns aren’t going to be enormous, but as an example Lutpin has a thread that documents investing into Crypto-Games (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2445163.0). Lutpin is closely connected to Crypto-Games, but the results he shows seem legitimate, and average monthly gains combined for all currencies you can invest with on their platform comes out to about 1%. It’s a nice source of passive income, but there always is a small amount of risk when you store coins in a third-party platform.

I’ve invested into Crypto-Games in the past and my investment yielded similar results as Lutpin has posted. I’m also currently looking into investing into Fortunejack; if I do so I will post my results as well.

You can get the same result by just lending crypto to people through major exchanges( for margin trading purposes), and the risk will much lower.

I earned about 2% a month from lending my bitcoin on Poloniex and never had any problem with getting the money, also, you can know from advance what interest rate you are going to get and you have no risk of losing money(and the risk is really big , as it there is a bug flaw in the casino system is may result you to lose your whole amount of investment).

I wouldn't consider investments in Casinos or gambling website as a clever investment, not in the cryptocurrency market for sure.

You can never surely know the future in investing for Cryptocurrency and if that ICO are just new in the industry the trustworthiness towards it is not that strong compared to an official coins that are on marketcap like ETH, LTC, Monero and other coins that are well known in the community and my opinion I really think it is the same when you invested with casinos you can never know if that casinos will get bankrupt someday so I really think it will be the same and you can have your instinct decide whether where you will invest.

[iv4n]

I can't understand one thing here.
Gambling websites usually promote their sites as best web to visit for gambling and winning.

It's​ normal because it's part of their promotion. No one will attract to play to their casino if their advertisement is just like this "Come and Play here, We are the worst casino ever".  Kidding but it's part of business just don't play by just reading their advertisement but review their casino by yourself first.

They tell you: Come here and win big but also at the same time they offer investment option and here they say again - invest and profit much. Website profits when users lose money so..
This also at the same time means: Players lose much here, so invest in our bankroll to get huge profit with us.
Can't understand of those casinos..

Casino doesn't win always, Just like gamblers, They can be lose too so their promotion is quite right. Players can win huge amount that's why they need some investors to back them up to cover big bank roll bets. So don't get confused on it.

I like your part about winning, it's impossible to win all the time. Casinos and gamblers, you can support casino or to be a gambler, we choose on which side to be, and why to not he on both?
Not all casinos have investment option, in some cases casino have its own bankroll. Why casinos open their door for investors is simple to understand, they aiming for higher bankroll, that's the way for attracting high rollers and more players.
I invested in couple casino bankrolls, its not big but I have something from that. In the same time I like to gamble, to me its like win win situation, why not to take advantage of it when we can.

[qwertyup23]

I can't understand one thing here.
Gambling websites usually promote their sites as best web to visit for gambling and winning. They tell you: Come here and win big but also at the same time they offer investment option and here they say again - invest and profit much. Website profits when users lose money so..
This also at the same time means: Players lose much here, so invest in our bankroll to get huge profit with us.
Can't understand of those casinos..

Technically, investment and gambling involves risk wherein a substantial amount of money may lose its value depending on how you treat it. In gambling, there are ways in order to lower your risks but it involves a series of process wherein an individual may be addicted to it. In investment, people have the choice in order to lower the risks of losing your money.
I believe that it may be a scheme in order to attract more customers or guests to their websites. Do not be fooled. If you want to invest then going into a gambling site would not be the ideal choice.

[leonair]

It's marketing and nothing but marketing.

Gambling is a business and every businessman wants to succeed, they will tell beautiful words to their consumers/users just to attract them of course. Casino in real and virtual world are designed not to lose in the long run so no matter how lucky a player is there's an another player that will lose eventually and with that it covers the losses of the Casino itself.

I think you can understand what is the real shit here it's just that you can't accept the fact that this Gambling sites are technically greedy.

[Whosdaddy]

As you can see, casino is a business so basically, if a casino is missing fund, they will look for investors to fill up the missing puzzle.  Then when the casino is establised, it will then promote its site by saying enticing words, (business as usual) so players will then attracted to play in their site.  IF you just follow the logic, business , client/investors, customer  you will not be confused.

Yes, the last time I checked business is business and the only ways casinos are making shit load of money is just because some people who have so much to give out all in the name of gambling or thinking they can make a lot from gambling are giving out as much as they can to the house.

I always feel the targets are newbies since they are always looking for ways to get rich quick anyway and that shows the level at which they are willing to whoop people's funds for investors to gain much. They are two different levels, one is losing big while the other is winning and we all know the losers here.

[upsidedown75]

I can't understand one thing here.
Gambling websites usually promote their sites as best web to visit for gambling and winning. They tell you: Come here and win big but also at the same time they offer investment option and here they say again - invest and profit much. Website profits when users lose money so..
This also at the same time means: Players lose much here, so invest in our bankroll to get huge profit with us.
Can't understand of those casinos..

there is a hidden word in the advertisement of any gambling site and that word is "maybe" as in maybe win a prize, or have a chance of winning the big prizes. they are not promising you to always win, not even a guarantee of win itself but only to have a chance of winning and that is what gambling is all about. and obviously in their ads they have to say it like that otherwise you can't really tell people "come play here and lose money"! that is like shooting yourself in the foot

Gambling and investment are two totally different things, poles apart activities. In gambling, everything is random, a gambler cannot use his skills or come up with a decision or control the game in any way. It is not the case with investment. Before investing money, a person gathers information and then decides whether to invest or not. Only if the investment would be fruitful, he is going to spend money.

[JL421]

This is 2 ways how a site makes profit and it's completely fair a site saying such things , if a site wants to make profit it has to have people gambling on it's site and after they start gambling and lose they start making profit , with investors they can put full burden on their investment incase some player won big so in one way both of these ways is beneficial for the site itself

[coinplus]

I can't understand one thing here.
Gambling websites usually promote their sites as best web to visit for gambling and winning. They tell you: Come here and win big but also at the same time they offer investment option and here they say again - invest and profit much. Website profits when users lose money so..
This also at the same time means: Players lose much here, so invest in our bankroll to get huge profit with us.
Can't understand of those casinos..

It is just a marketing strategy and those who always fall for it will always fall bad. It is not like you cannot win much but that is when you get lucky. As long as a lot of people are not losing, they are not profiting, and those who are taking gambling as an investment or a way to win today are the ones, who are seriously taking those promotional adverts seriously. There is absolutely nothing like that, it is just to lure you in, sweep the little money you have, and leave you hanging.

[lili song]

It's totally different things. But all of this it just marketing strategy to earn more money for management. In investment we can earn profit more than gold. But gambling if we can't control emotional will lose much. So investment will help people to safe their money for the future.
That's good strategy to combine gambling and investment, people's can choose what they want, gambling or investment?

[Shenzou]

I can't understand one thing here.
Gambling websites usually promote their sites as best web to visit for gambling and winning. They tell you: Come here and win big but also at the same time they offer investment option and here they say again - invest and profit much. Website profits when users lose money so..
This also at the same time means: Players lose much here, so invest in our bankroll to get huge profit with us.
Can't understand of those casinos..

Well that is what you expect them to tell you, what do you think they are going to tell you play on our site and you might get a chance to win, the whole gambling thing is based on luck, some people get lucky and win big and some others lose, people who are interested in testing their luck they are able to do that and the ones who want a guaranteed money they can invest in this casino. its all about choices you make as a user, and anyone who is trying to gamble knows that he is going to lose at some point.

[Indrawan77]

Every one got their choice whether they want to gamble or to invest, and of course they will put that kind of motto to attract investors to put their money either in gambling or investing, the site needs both of them to become bigger and bigger and you can double your profit by winning in gambling and hoping other people losing money in gambling, so it still a good deal to gamble and invest together

[vintages]

Do you think they really care if you make huge profit from the so called investment websites? They don't. They just want to make money by marketing those websites. So its left for you as a gambler to make good decisions to either invest or not to invest. Though, some of those website may not be what they say they are but some of them are genuine. It all matters if you have the money to experiment with them.

[izanagi narukami]

Gambling and invest are different things.
I agree if the casino let you choose the best thing that you can afford to loss.

Remember that if you choose to gamble , even if you win or loss, the site investment bankroll only affect small percentage and for who choose investment also happen either !

[voztata]

Do you think they really care if you make huge profit from the so called investment websites? They don't. They just want to make money by marketing those websites. So its left for you as a gambler to make good decisions to either invest or not to invest. Though, some of those website may not be what they say they are but some of them are genuine. It all matters if you have the money to experiment with them.

For that I think one must not start investing in every website just to check whether it is genuine or not.
Good strategy is to find out in which thing you are going to invest, does that one particular source of income is valid or not ?

Whether your income will be doubled or may there any growth in it if invested in this source? So when questions are related to gambling, all the answers are “NO”, so better stop yourself.

[avikz]

I can't understand one thing here.
Gambling websites usually promote their sites as best web to visit for gambling and winning. They tell you: Come here and win big but also at the same time they offer investment option and here they say again - invest and profit much. Website profits when users lose money so..
This also at the same time means: Players lose much here, so invest in our bankroll to get huge profit with us.
Can't understand of those casinos..

It is part of their business! Like any real world business, a casino can't survive without players and without investment. Maintaining and successfully running a casino is a costly affair and they need both type of individuals to sustain their business model. Everyone knows that gambling is a risk matter, so those who can take and sustain such risks, are the players. And the second type of individuals are investors who don't like to take risk and prefers a safe method to earn money, so they invest in casino bankroll and get a share in their profit. Simple!

[jakagintiri]

I can't understand one thing here.
Gambling websites usually promote their sites as best web to visit for gambling and winning. They tell you: Come here and win big but also at the same time they offer investment option and here they say again - invest and profit much. Website profits when users lose money so..
This also at the same time means: Players lose much here, so invest in our bankroll to get huge profit with us.
Can't understand of those casinos..

I see how risky it is to lose all the money invested. very many ways to attract a person's attention, but the more participating the more the benefits, not all things are always negative but must be smart in investing.

[BillCoin]

I can't understand one thing here.
Gambling websites usually promote their sites as best web to visit for gambling and winning. They tell you: Come here and win big but also at the same time they offer investment option and here they say again - invest and profit much. Website profits when users lose money so..
This also at the same time means: Players lose much here, so invest in our bankroll to get huge profit with us.
Can't understand of those casinos..

I see how risky it is to lose all the money invested. very many ways to attract a person's attention, but the more participating the more the benefits, not all things are always negative but must be smart in investing.

The thing here that it want to attract investors- and let them believe that the site always win against gamblers and there is litteraly no chance for them to lose funds on a monthly ratio, but on the same way it says to gamblers that they are sure to win in the gambling site.
So it's pretty much the opposite.

I would laugh hard if I would see it in the same page, but I assume that they are saying those things seperetely on different page( one in the investors page and one in the main gamblers page).

[sheenshane]

I can't understand one thing here.
Gambling websites usually promote their sites as best web to visit for gambling and winning. They tell you: Come here and win big but also at the same time they offer investment option and here they say again - invest and profit much. Website profits when users lose money so..
This also at the same time means: Players lose much here, so invest in our bankroll to get huge profit with us.
Can't understand of those casinos..

I see how risky it is to lose all the money invested. very many ways to attract a person's attention, but the more participating the more the benefits, not all things are always negative but must be smart in investing.

The thing here that it want to attract investors- and let them believe that the site always win against gamblers and there is litteraly no chance for them to lose funds on a monthly ratio, but on the same way it says to gamblers that they are sure to win in the gambling site.
So it's pretty much the opposite.

I would laugh hard if I would see it in the same page, but I assume that they are saying those things seperetely on different page( one in the investors page and one in the main gamblers page).

That's what mostly the marketing strategies of those casino sites to have more gamblers and attract more investors, they always say that they have a good gambling site that near you luck but actually it's not. So, that is up to you which you better to choose gambling site that makes you comfortable to play, because not all gambling site you always win and not gambling site makes to lose their bankroll.

[Lionidas]

The main reason these sites offer an investment option is because they need to increase their site's bank roll.
Just incase they have to payout large wins to players, this is the only real reason I can think of them exploring this option on a site.
And it is just that, an option.
People who believe a site can rake in profit for them invest into these particular sites.
It could also be these potential investors have an insider information that a a large player will be dropping alot of money onto a site so want to be part of the site's profits.
This can also be another reason why people want to put some money into a site to gain a little bit of profit on the side.